2013-09-09T00:07:19 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:07:26 *** nurupo|away has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:07:29 *** KyoriAsh has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:07:39 *** Boxmanbr has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:07:52 *** Zertap has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:18:41 *** Zertap has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:19:27 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:19:27 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:22:23 *** Boxmanbr has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:22:24 *** KyoriAsh has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:23:02 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T00:43:49 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2013-09-09T00:57:14 *** Dariost has quit IRC 2013-09-09T01:29:33 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T01:36:34 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T02:33:21 *** Ramnik has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T02:39:17 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-09-09T02:45:19 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T02:49:32 *** xJeePx has quit IRC 2013-09-09T02:51:48 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T03:01:40 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T03:04:05 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T03:28:17 *** NightLunya has quit IRC 2013-09-09T03:40:53 仲睦まじい now that's a word I'll have to say several times in order to pronounce it smoothly. 2013-09-09T03:46:40 Other than that, here are some of the latest words that I looked up in the dictionary... I suppose they're not so uncommon. 破廉恥 2013-09-09T03:46:40 淑女 2013-09-09T03:46:40 溢す 2013-09-09T03:46:40 嘆く 2013-09-09T03:46:40 賑わう 2013-09-09T03:46:40 穏やか 2013-09-09T03:46:40 駄弁 2013-09-09T03:46:40 青天の霹靂 2013-09-09T03:46:40 篭る 2013-09-09T03:46:40 隅っこ 2013-09-09T03:46:40 仏頂面 2013-09-09T04:02:16 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2013-09-09T04:24:28 *** DeltaSierra4 has quit IRC 2013-09-09T06:00:03 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T06:20:19 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T06:48:42 *** albel727 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T07:06:42 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-09-09T07:15:35 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-09-09T07:26:47 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-09-09T07:28:55 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-09-09T08:04:53 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T08:09:18 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T08:17:28 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T09:09:30 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T10:32:57 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T11:26:53 *** xJeePx has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T11:27:35 *** Boxmanbr has quit IRC 2013-09-09T11:51:23 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T12:24:50 *** Gikko has quit IRC 2013-09-09T14:03:33 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T14:22:05 *** Ramnik has quit IRC 2013-09-09T15:19:42 I’m back to trying to implement thcrap support into PyTouhou, and I want to do it in a font-independent way, but text splitting that way would make it crash sometimes. 2013-09-09T15:21:08 If there is a single line where in the Japanese there were two, and the font is slim enough to fit that line in just one line, the second line instruction should be removed? 2013-09-09T15:23:06 Yes, that's what we do. 2013-09-09T15:23:46 So the (usually) 20 frames delay between the two lines is lost? 2013-09-09T15:28:45 Well, it's not really "lost" because there tend to be other instructions on that frame? We're not shifting back the rest of the .msg script just because a line is removed, if that's what you mean. 2013-09-09T15:29:39 There is no frame skipped, but the text gets displayed in one go, instead of with a delay. 2013-09-09T15:31:51 So, my patch works fine now. :) 2013-09-09T15:34:57 I still have to implement line wrapping though. 2013-09-09T15:35:39 Also, in French at stage 0 entry 0 frame 61 there is no way to fit all of that in a single message box. 2013-09-09T15:38:40 ... and this is why we don't really support th06 at this point, because I first want to increase the size of the message box, but the hardcoded 256x256 limit makes that rather difficult. :( 2013-09-09T15:39:53 And there is also the Music Room and the endings where each line of text is split at the 32nd byte into a left and right half -.- 2013-09-09T15:40:14 There is no real limit in PyTouhou, I can do whatever I want. 2013-09-09T15:53:29 *** Tony64 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T16:48:51 *** xJeePx has quit IRC 2013-09-09T16:54:56 *** DeltaSierra4 has quit IRC 2013-09-09T17:13:45 *** Tony64 has quit IRC 2013-09-09T17:14:33 *** Tony64 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T17:44:45 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T17:45:32 \o 2013-09-09T17:45:35 \o 2013-09-09T17:45:44 Still nothing from Halbarad, I assume? 2013-09-09T17:45:55 * Nazeo checks his e-mail from today. 2013-09-09T17:46:40 Oh, we’re back to the \o custom! ^^ 2013-09-09T17:46:41 Nothing, except an e-mail from the Eternal Flame forum group, which I will see now. 2013-09-09T17:46:42 \o 2013-09-09T17:47:03 * Nazeo laughs 2013-09-09T17:47:26 Okay, so we have a es translator who wants to help. I'll get him set up. 2013-09-09T17:47:36 Halbarad... hmmm 2013-09-09T17:47:52 Ah, those people. I just saw their static translation patch using thcrap a few days ago. They did almost everything right, I was impressed. :) 2013-09-09T17:48:30 :D 2013-09-09T17:48:57 Anyways, about the css. It was probably the worst weekend I ever got. I was on 24 hour duty nearly the whole weekend. 2013-09-09T17:49:04 So... I'll have to pick it up. 2013-09-09T17:49:57 Take your time, it's not that important. (But OK, if I say that, you might end up forgetting it entirely. :)) 2013-09-09T17:50:26 I never forget...! I remember all the tasks you give me. 2013-09-09T17:50:29 * Nazeo hangs onto your every word~ 2013-09-09T17:53:03 So, about those images, there would also be drywall (who patched th095 and th125) and Rufus (who patched th09) to contact. 2013-09-09T17:53:43 Mmkay, I'll track them down. 2013-09-09T17:54:07 So, should I contact Halbarad on another platform? I used fanfiction.com for the first one. 2013-09-09T17:55:32 Yeah. Probably... *gasp* where all the gensokyo.org people hang out. 2013-09-09T17:56:29 Oh. Joy. 2013-09-09T17:56:36 Yeah, I'll find him then. 2013-09-09T17:58:18 However. 2013-09-09T17:58:27 Hm? 2013-09-09T18:00:08 We've just had a discussion over in the PyTouhou XMPP room about copyrights and stuff, where we came across that old page again: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki_talk:Copyrights 2013-09-09T18:00:09 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou Wiki talk:Copyrights - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net) 2013-09-09T18:01:58 * Nazeo sees what he has written in the past. He headesks. 2013-09-09T18:02:45 ... and our situation seems quite similar. Since thpatch.net, just like Touhou Wiki, already violates copyrights everywhere (which I'm totally fine with), maybe we shouldn't make that effort of contacting the original authors here either. 2013-09-09T18:03:16 In the event they might say no? Or just the effort itself? 2013-09-09T18:03:38 "Effort should not be made to contact authors where copyright has been violated by the wiki. Reasons: Possible headaches, lack of consensus" 2013-09-09T18:03:43 If it's that they don't answer, then I could be like "Hey man, we tried"- 2013-09-09T18:03:45 Ah. 2013-09-09T18:04:04 Screenshots of the game constitutes this, yes? 2013-09-09T18:05:20 Yeah. Everything is copyrighted unless it explicitly isn't. 2013-09-09T18:05:44 * Nazeo thinks it over. 2013-09-09T18:06:28 Legally and technically we would be safe, but it would be bad PR. However, it's sort of like using existing patching to add into the translations, yes? 2013-09-09T18:07:08 On the contrary, it would rather be bad PR if we didn't. 2013-09-09T18:08:01 How do you figure? 2013-09-09T18:08:40 Just read through the bug tracker. Quite a number of people claimed that the older games weren't translated, where in reality they just quit the game immediately after seeing that the images weren't. 2013-09-09T18:10:02 Eh, let's just do it. It's for the common good anyway. We could always credit them, yes? 2013-09-09T18:11:57 Err, you should get someone’s approval before using their work if they didn’t explicitely allowed it already. 2013-09-09T18:12:16 It’s the right thing to do, from my pov. 2013-09-09T18:14:38 I'm not denying that, and neither is Nazeo, probably. 2013-09-09T18:14:59 Maybe I don’t understand the issue. 2013-09-09T18:15:00 ^ 2013-09-09T18:15:53 It's just that... well, this is Touhou, and people have been in this situation before. 2013-09-09T18:16:36 Sure, we might be in a different situation, given that there is not that much of a cultural distance between us and the original image editors than, say, us and some Japanese doujin artists. 2013-09-09T18:20:38 Oh, wait. 2013-09-09T18:20:59 ? 2013-09-09T18:21:06 "It is for the common good, because nobody is harmed"? 2013-09-09T18:21:17 gensokyo.org may feel harmed. 2013-09-09T18:22:12 -.- 2013-09-09T18:22:27 No, that's just self entitlement. That's not the common good. 2013-09-09T18:22:56 There should not be a monopoly when it comes to patching. 2013-09-09T18:33:10 That still doesn't justify taking their content. 2013-09-09T18:33:21 By the way... http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,6872.0.html 2013-09-09T18:33:22 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou 12.8 The Great Fairy Wars English Patch (at www.shrinemaiden.org) 2013-09-09T18:34:17 I'll look at that and uh, Nmlgc I'm agreeing with you :P 2013-09-09T18:34:36 The Shrinemaiden English Patch for th128 that never got finished. Maybe you could ask around if people still have the images they created for it, we could at last put them into a patch then :) 2013-09-09T18:34:56 Will do! 2013-09-09T18:37:25 From what was said in the forum, seems Drake did the image manipulation. 2013-09-09T18:38:06 Uh oh... there goes that chance. 2013-09-09T18:38:26 However, vgperson was on that team. 2013-09-09T18:38:28 Sooo... 2013-09-09T18:38:38 We are back to that one question again...ha ha 2013-09-09T18:40:11 ... OK. 2013-09-09T18:40:37 *** Tony64 has quit IRC 2013-09-09T18:40:52 Try asking drywall and Rufus. They don't seem to be particularly affiliated with any community, so we might have a chance there. 2013-09-09T18:41:31 ... and let's get back to that Eternal Flame person. :) 2013-09-09T18:41:36 Oh, right! 2013-09-09T18:43:44 drywall is MotK affiliated. 2013-09-09T18:44:25 Checked his latest login. It was about 2 years ago. 2013-09-09T18:45:06 -.- 2013-09-09T18:45:23 I'll figure this out. No worries. 2013-09-09T18:45:49 Would there be any time frame after which it can be safely assumed that a person "left the Internet"? 2013-09-09T18:46:03 Good point... 2013-09-09T18:46:13 5 years for sure. 2013-09-09T18:46:21 *** xJeePx has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T18:46:25 \o 2013-09-09T18:46:38 Also... I'll be back hopefully around... 6pm my time. Time for formation... 2013-09-09T18:47:00 Alright, see you. \o 2013-09-09T18:47:11 \o 2013-09-09T18:47:15 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2013-09-09T19:24:12 *** Tony64 has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T19:32:03 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T19:59:08 *** Tony64 has quit IRC 2013-09-09T20:14:36 *** Ginko has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T20:35:18 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-09-09T20:40:30 *** natsurou has quit IRC 2013-09-09T20:42:02 *** natsurou has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T20:55:31 *** Boxmanbr has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T20:57:16 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T20:58:27 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T21:25:09 *** Nazeo is now known as Nazeo|Detail 2013-09-09T21:37:44 *** Nazeo|Detail is now known as Nazeo 2013-09-09T21:41:34 *** Nazeo_Aelko_Neze has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T21:44:37 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2013-09-09T22:00:05 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T22:00:11 *** Tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-09T22:09:25 Hmm, according to someone, thpatch gives a false positive for the Norton antivirus program. 2013-09-09T22:30:18 *** Nazeo_Aelko_Neze has quit IRC 2013-09-09T22:54:05 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-09-09T22:58:48 *** Tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-09T23:09:48 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap