2013-09-05T00:09:40 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-09-05T00:18:15 *** Dariost has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T00:21:17 *** Kimmachinima has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T00:22:24 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-09-05T00:22:32 Hello~ 2013-09-05T00:23:05 Hey Nmlgc, I need some help with the patch files 2013-09-05T00:23:10 Some seem to be missing 2013-09-05T00:25:15 Umm... 2013-09-05T00:26:15 Which files exactly? 2013-09-05T00:26:38 *** Tony64 has quit IRC 2013-09-05T00:27:29 I mean, there isn't the ascii floder, in which are the praying girls text 2013-09-05T00:27:36 *texts 2013-09-05T00:27:43 Lemme check some more 2013-09-05T00:27:54 Oh, the images. :) 2013-09-05T00:28:05 Yes ^^' 2013-09-05T00:30:55 I left them out on purpose because most of the stuff is duplicated across recent games and I wanted to first sort out all the advanced image patching with overlays and sprite-level alpha analysis and stuff before doing this and I think there already are Brazilian Portuguese edits for these for th14 and maybe we can reuse them and... yeah. 2013-09-05T00:32:44 Yes, that's it 2013-09-05T00:32:52 I found that ascii folder in the TH14 patch. 2013-09-05T00:33:11 The pause menu will stay in Japanese if I don't have those files ~~ 2013-09-05T00:35:16 Also, some graphics like the character selection screen and the difficulty selection screen boxes have a background 2013-09-05T00:35:56 I simply can't edit that without messing up that background, I need an isolated one 2013-09-05T00:37:27 Well, that's all there is in the original data files. Image editors need to create these isolated base images themselves... and then upload them on the wiki so that others don't have to do this all over again. 2013-09-05T00:40:01 Hmm 2013-09-05T00:40:23 I'll look for those images there, I hope I have some luck left 2013-09-05T00:41:29 We don't officially support image patching for the older games yet, so there'll be nothing there at this point. :( 2013-09-05T00:42:40 Oh :S 2013-09-05T00:42:51 So I guess I have to stay with the weird thing I made up 2013-09-05T00:42:59 It's still presentable.~ 2013-09-05T00:43:14 I'm just worried about the pause menu. 2013-09-05T00:50:00 No need to be worried. It'll all be translatable eventually... I'm just in some kind of support hell now where things don't run for certain people, some want vpatch support now, some want th07 hardcoded strings now, some want Music Room now, some want a Japanese patch, there's Korean translations for th06-th11 I was asked to import, there are compatibility issues with old English patches, I also need to support right-to-left scripts 2013-09-05T00:51:53 If I was the only one to want the Japanese patches, you can forget about it, I can do it very well by myself. 2013-09-05T00:52:05 And if some other people want it, I can move it up in my TODO. 2013-09-05T00:52:23 Right, you were the only one. ^^ 2013-09-05T00:52:46 Great, so remove that item from your TODO. :) 2013-09-05T00:54:03 It was mainly to test my patching code against gensokyo.org’s patched data. 2013-09-05T00:55:18 I wonder how was the English patch done 2013-09-05T00:55:32 Maybe they had the graphics beforehand 2013-09-05T00:56:19 Kimmachinima: the English patch is actually another kind of approach 2013-09-05T00:56:36 thcrap is actually transparent to the game executable 2013-09-05T00:56:43 and the patch is committed on runtime 2013-09-05T00:56:58 the English patches are hardcoded mods on the original executable 2013-09-05T00:57:40 that alter the inner workings of the game itself 2013-09-05T00:58:03 Hmm 2013-09-05T00:58:05 the differences between the two are that hardcoding, means that when you have patched the executable 2013-09-05T00:58:16 there's no mean to extend the mod 2013-09-05T00:58:19 I wonder if I could do custom graphics. :S 2013-09-05T00:58:50 thcrap, being a JIT patcher, gives nearly unlimited functionality 2013-09-05T00:59:17 you just need to know how to bypass the game's functions 2013-09-05T00:59:35 and include your own code to get that to do what you want 2013-09-05T01:01:12 *** Dariost has quit IRC 2013-09-05T01:02:33 Kimmachinima, if Nmlgc gets to bypass (actually, hook) the functions/procedures that do the whole graphics render 2013-09-05T01:02:55 if the APIs are going to be that extensive 2013-09-05T01:03:06 should be trivial in that case to do custom graphics 2013-09-05T01:03:10 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-09-05T01:04:04 the only problem about hooking a working executable is that Windows is not so happy to let you do that 2013-09-05T01:04:57 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T01:05:12 and the engine itself must be written to prevent any kind of exception or intervention from antiviruses, the processor's security capabilities (No-eXecute) or Windows going apeshit 2013-09-05T01:06:24 That is hard to keep up with 2013-09-05T01:06:37 Still didn't get what (or not) to do 2013-09-05T01:06:42 I... um, think you are talking about different things here. :) 2013-09-05T01:07:21 Nmlgc: wasn't the topic about replacing the original graphics on the fly? :P 2013-09-05T01:09:18 That works already, the topic was about getting textless base images to translate images like these: http://thpatch.net/wiki/File:th14-title-weapon_00.png 2013-09-05T01:09:20 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: File:th14-title-weapon 00.png - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-09-05T01:09:51 oops, you are right :P 2013-09-05T01:10:01 ok, I've hijacked another topic 2013-09-05T01:10:02 ... and then something about the pause menu, which only stays in Japanese because I didn't provide a translated image file. 2013-09-05T01:12:02 I’ll try to make a working demo using SVG instead of PSD or XCF, I think it will make it much easier for translators to be able to translate images directly from the wiki. 2013-09-05T01:12:18 MediaWiki already has the translation bits. 2013-09-05T01:13:59 *** Kimmachinima has quit IRC 2013-09-05T01:17:16 *** Kimmachinima has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T01:23:11 *** Dariost has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T01:40:54 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-09-05T01:52:23 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-09-05T02:02:07 So... how many days do I wait for a response? 2013-09-05T02:02:45 Indefinitely... probably. 2013-09-05T02:03:08 We won't use the images until we have one. 2013-09-05T02:03:49 Makes sense. 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