2013-08-17T00:02:26 *** GreaseMonkey has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:02:34 *** GreaseMonkey has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:02:34 *** GreaseMonkey has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:07:13 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:07:57 *** xfullmetal17 has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:14:49 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:21:44 *** natsurou_ has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:23:39 *** toshiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:24:54 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:30:02 *** toshiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:30:09 *** GreaseMonkey has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:31:20 *** GreaseMonkey has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:35:18 *** natsurou has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:48:30 *** GreaseMonkey has quit IRC 2013-08-17T00:49:47 *** BullshitInverted has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T00:50:47 now the new patcher works! 2013-08-17T00:50:58 it does download 2013-08-17T01:25:16 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T02:04:39 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-17T02:15:57 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-17T02:28:26 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-08-17T02:38:49 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T03:17:53 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-17T03:34:36 *** D_Aya has quit IRC 2013-08-17T03:43:24 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-08-17T04:14:53 *** BullshitInverted has quit IRC 2013-08-17T04:17:47 *** TrueShiftBlue has quit IRC 2013-08-17T05:15:13 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-17T06:52:49 *** BullshitInverted has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T07:36:38 *** BullshitInverted has quit IRC 2013-08-17T08:29:45 *** xfullmetal17 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T08:29:58 Odd, didn't see that coming 2013-08-17T08:30:17 All of the Stage 2 spells save for #16 on normal mode can be cleared without moving 2013-08-17T08:30:20 in Touhou 14 2013-08-17T08:38:30 *** xfullmetal17_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T08:40:58 *** xfullmetal17 has quit IRC 2013-08-17T08:41:11 *** xfullmetal17_ is now known as xfullmetal17 2013-08-17T10:15:23 Any wiki translator in here? 2013-08-17T10:28:39 *** Ramnik has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T12:40:28 don't ask to ask. 2013-08-17T13:05:11 *** Ramnik has quit IRC 2013-08-17T13:22:16 What? 2013-08-17T14:00:31 * albel727 sighs 2013-08-17T14:01:08 the way you posed your question is a form of violation of "don't ask to ask, just ask" principle. by not listing what's the actual problem or question you want to solve you waste time, discourage people from raising hands (because nobody knows what kind of bothersome stuff they will be getting themselves into), and miss on the possibility of your problem being solvable without a wiki translator. 2013-08-17T14:05:12 There was no problem involved, actually. 2013-08-17T14:05:57 there may be no problem involved, but there must be a reason you were looking for a wiki translator, even if it's just "I want to drink a beer with one". stating it would be helpful. 2013-08-17T14:07:06 Ok then, sorry for violating this principle. 2013-08-17T14:10:47 Well, as long as you're here, might as well ask your opinion 2013-08-17T14:11:29 Cutting it short, I was edigint the images for the Brazilian translation of TH14 and had some issues with space 2013-08-17T14:11:59 You see, you need a lot more space to write "Seleção de Personagem" rather than "Stage Select" 2013-08-17T14:13:29 So to fix that I made a few templates to use on cases like that and would like to ask a few people which one they prefer 2013-08-17T14:14:08 well, I never got to localize the images, but I guess there are several options. Smaller font size, two lines, getting rid of a verb (i.e. maybe just "Stage:" would be enough) 2013-08-17T14:14:17 Yeah 2013-08-17T14:14:28 The thing is, consistency is nice 2013-08-17T14:14:46 So I want to just choose one and use it on everything 2013-08-17T14:14:48 Here some examples 2013-08-17T14:14:49 http://i.imgur.com/ZYq9VZ8.png 2013-08-17T14:15:05 The first one would be to just remove the "select" part 2013-08-17T14:15:38 So instead of writing "Seleção de Dificuldade" I would just use "Dificuldade". 2013-08-17T14:15:41 This one is from Stage Select 2013-08-17T14:16:39 Basically everything you just said, so 2013-08-17T14:16:40 http://i.imgur.com/VW34jLb.png 2013-08-17T14:16:47 http://i.imgur.com/XO4SK0X.png 2013-08-17T14:17:02 Here you go. 2013-08-17T14:17:23 My least favorite option is to reduce the font size, it's really inconsistent 2013-08-17T14:18:00 Can you see the links? I don't know how IRC reacts to this stuff. 2013-08-17T14:22:33 yeah, I can, sorry, distraction here. well I'd consistently get rid of verbs. it applies to select difficulty and select stage 2013-08-17T14:23:38 I prefer this one, too. 2013-08-17T14:23:48 Everything can have the same size and that's nice. 2013-08-17T14:23:55 Thanks for the insight. 2013-08-17T15:47:14 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T15:56:42 *** Zertap1 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T15:58:07 *** Zertap has quit IRC 2013-08-17T16:00:25 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-17T16:01:00 Nmlgc: touhou is c++ or c? 2013-08-17T16:01:07 I think C++. 2013-08-17T16:01:47 It has a lot of indirect calls, which make me think of classes. 2013-08-17T16:01:50 At least EoSD. 2013-08-17T16:09:30 Is it just with me or those images with the names of the menus don't appear in options even in the original game? 2013-08-17T16:09:33 http://thpatch.net/w/images/c/ce/th14-title-selecttitle-sl_option.png 2013-08-17T16:13:03 Yeah, you're right. Should probably remove it from the page, then. 2013-08-17T16:17:44 Speaking of that I discovered the font used on those. 2013-08-17T16:18:11 Bernhard Modern Std. 2013-08-17T16:22:55 *** Zertap1 has quit IRC 2013-08-17T16:25:32 Normal users can't edit stuff like that font used section, can they? 2013-08-17T16:26:10 They can: http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Th14/Images&action=edit 2013-08-17T16:26:11 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: View source for Th14/Images - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-08-17T16:28:59 Weird, every time I tried editing I couldn't alter any text. 2013-08-17T16:29:19 And there was this message saying that I could only view and copy it. 2013-08-17T16:29:57 Oh, it's probably because I tried editing a translated page. 2013-08-17T16:30:00 ^ 2013-08-17T16:30:45 Thanks. I'm gonna update it with the font name and upload a Fireworks PNG for that. 2013-08-17T16:34:47 The translated ones get info from the english one automatically? 2013-08-17T16:36:05 You'll have to re-mark the page for translation, and then the translated pages will update over time. 2013-08-17T16:37:50 *** Zarakava has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T16:37:58 Re-mark for translation? 2013-08-17T16:38:19 *** Zarakava has quit IRC 2013-08-17T16:38:27 Let's see... when you changed the base page, there should be new note on the top. Clicking "marcada para tradução" and then confirming your changes will update the other pages. 2013-08-17T16:41:01 Found it, thanks. 2013-08-17T16:41:41 What's that about translation units? 2013-08-17T16:42:48 That's a list of every bit of text that can be translated via the interface. Since you changed nothing there, you don't need to worry. 2013-08-17T16:43:11 Ok, got kinda scared for a moment. 2013-08-17T16:43:35 Alright, now it's re-marked. 2013-08-17T16:44:15 And thanks for making that template the default for those Menu Captions. 2013-08-17T16:44:41 I didn't know if I shoul upload in every single one or just the first one. 2013-08-17T17:11:57 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T18:11:40 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-08-17T18:16:45 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-08-17T18:45:55 *** KyoriAsh has quit IRC 2013-08-17T18:46:18 *** KyoriAsh has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T19:45:20 *** Zertap1 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T22:03:08 *** BM_ has quit IRC 2013-08-17T22:28:48 *** Zertap1 has quit IRC 2013-08-17T22:29:07 *** Zertap has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T22:44:09 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T22:52:16 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-17T23:19:57 *** nthDream has joined #thcrap 2013-08-17T23:24:18 *** magictape has joined #thcrap