2013-08-12T00:10:34 looking forward to my 2hoos 2013-08-12T00:13:02 *yaaaaawn* time to sleep 2013-08-12T00:13:12 see you later guys 2013-08-12T00:13:46 *** Flandre has left #thcrap 2013-08-12T00:26:45 *** Mamizou_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T00:26:52 *** Ederson has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T00:31:02 *** Mamizou_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T00:34:31 *** Mamizou_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T00:35:11 *** boing has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T00:36:38 Hello 2013-08-12T00:37:08 *** Mamizou_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T01:07:51 *** boing has quit IRC 2013-08-12T01:09:48 *** Ederson has quit IRC 2013-08-12T01:33:14 *** Mamizou_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T01:33:57 *** Mamizou_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T02:04:41 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-12T02:04:56 *** Critz has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T02:05:28 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-12T02:09:56 *** nurupo has quit IRC 2013-08-12T02:13:04 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T02:25:19 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T02:25:51 *** GreaseMonkey has quit IRC 2013-08-12T02:29:36 *** Baananananana has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T02:30:55 *** Ramnik has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T02:55:07 *** Ramnik has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:00:25 So Comiket opened? 2013-08-12T03:00:32 Yep. 2013-08-12T03:00:47 and now the wait begins? 2013-08-12T03:01:18 Yep. Well, it'll be a kinda semi-active wait, if that makes any sense... 2013-08-12T03:02:49 *** Ederson has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:06:03 *** Nmlgc1 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:06:53 (yee-haw, IP address change at the best possible time) 2013-08-12T03:06:56 So... how do I put this. 2013-08-12T03:08:08 How about "my body is so not ready for this and I'll be glad for any piece of information you kindly throw at me"? 2013-08-12T03:08:53 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:10:56 Nmlgc1: at least post confirmed links on the website, or #newtouhou or just here, when you will find them 2013-08-12T03:11:12 Yeah. Since I'm the kind of person where trolling can have a disastrous effect on, I will reduce my own /jp/ consumption to a minimum, for my own safety and concentration, etc. 2013-08-12T03:11:21 *** Ederson has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:11:24 nurupo: Well, of course, I'll do that :) 2013-08-12T03:12:54 As for the links: If anyone of you finds and downloads a legit download faster than I do, please give me the SHA-256 and file size in bytes of th14.exe, because that's what thcrap needs for identification 2013-08-12T03:13:07 *** EdersonFunes has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:13:40 Alright, so, what else... 2013-08-12T03:14:18 If you want to help and can into Japanese, please transcribe *images*, not plaintext. Images are things like these: http://thpatch.net/wiki/Th14/Images 2013-08-12T03:14:21 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Th14/Images - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-08-12T03:14:44 (... even though there probably won't be many new ones...) 2013-08-12T03:16:05 If you want to help and can into C and GCC and stuff *and* are still there when the game comes out, you could play the funny guess-the-new-ECL-opcodes trial-and-error game. 2013-08-12T03:17:25 *** EdersonFunes has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:18:30 That is, you get Touhou Toolkit from https://github.com/nmlgc/thtk, (read through the thecl stuff if you aren't familiar with it already), and then, once we have the ECLs of the game, find out the parameter counts of the missing opcodes, and add them one by one until that thing finally dumps. 2013-08-12T03:19:51 If you want to help and can into disassembly, I'll have to disappoint you, because my workflow doesn't really accommodate for a second person :-( 2013-08-12T03:22:05 It's not that challenging anyway, just finding the correct locations for 12 binary hacks, (I guess there are also 2 constant memory addresses in there we need to replace) and 9 breakpoints. 2013-08-12T03:22:43 (And yeah, I think it'll still get rather chaotic if someone starts helping from the other end.) 2013-08-12T03:24:21 Ah, BTW, this is The Workflow: http://thpatch.net/wiki/How_to_patch_a_new_Touhou_game_in_a_couple_of_hours (as this is a full-version-after-trial-version situation, start reading from the bottom) 2013-08-12T03:24:22 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: How to patch a new Touhou game in a couple of hours - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-08-12T03:25:24 *** EdersonFunes has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:26:20 So... I guess that's it. Enjoy the wait, everyone. 2013-08-12T03:26:47 *** Baananananana has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:31:43 *** EdersonFunes has quit IRC 2013-08-12T03:31:49 *** EdersonFunes has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:37:29 Oh yeah, since someone will invariably ask about PC-98 (hello xJeePx, by the way, I probably should have said something earlier): 2013-08-12T03:38:20 After today, there are some more things I'll like to do on the Windows side. 2013-08-12T03:39:11 Advanced image patching (overlays and the alpha-analysis stuff so that we can patch on sprite level and don't have to ship e.g. that full front00.png) and proper Music Room support come to mind. 2013-08-12T03:39:30 sounds nice 2013-08-12T03:40:26 *** AlexPistols has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T03:40:43 Riatre (the hacker behind the Hopeless Masquerade patch) also asked for VPatch support and also gave me an idea of how to do it, so that'll be a thing as well. 2013-08-12T03:40:44 so it begins? 2013-08-12T03:40:51 Yes, more or less. 2013-08-12T03:41:33 That will lead to significant code changes in the loader, so I'll also do dynamic base address support while I'm at it (which we need for PC-98 anyway). 2013-08-12T03:44:25 I'm *not* yet sure whether public key crypto in the updater is on that list too. I seem to have a concept now (basically what linkmauve suggested a while ago, it just needed some time to click and for me to get an idea how to implement it), but I'm still not too sure of the benefits, especially since the wiki itself is pretty much locked down now. 2013-08-12T03:47:44 So, after that list of important things is completed, I'll work on Windows and PC-98 in parallel. The older Windows games still need image support and hardcoded strings and Music Room and endings and whatnot. 2013-08-12T03:50:07 So... yeah, that's it as far as that topic is concerned. 2013-08-12T03:51:05 so CDs are already being handed out so it seems 2013-08-12T03:52:01 Need to get to work now. There'll be a new build coming up later, nothing important though - just disabling the console *by default* and CRC32 verification in the updater so that we can actually scale this thing asynchronously if we *do* need to tap into the 5 servers of the Edge of Perspective cloud. 2013-08-12T03:52:52 A~nd I need to change the dialogue function to actually do a safe sprintf again because it does matter for the Music Room after all. 2013-08-12T03:54:05 people are even joining #newtouhou. but then leaving 2013-08-12T03:54:54 *** Nmlgc1 is now known as Nmlgc 2013-08-12T03:55:37 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:15:51 *** MagicLeaf has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:16:03 *** Seto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:16:08 Hi everyone 2013-08-12T04:16:09 ! 2013-08-12T04:16:12 Hello! 2013-08-12T04:16:24 so everyone dead? 2013-08-12T04:16:32 *** Ederson_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:16:59 I am supposed to be busy. The other people here... I don't know. 2013-08-12T04:17:13 *** EdersonFunes has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:18:24 *** Critz has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:19:20 *** Critz has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:19:51 so no theories?? 2013-08-12T04:20:02 I mean when it was 13.5 this was full 2013-08-12T04:20:16 olha o johnny ali !! 2013-08-12T04:20:21 I'm sorry, but this is not supposed to be the place for theories. 2013-08-12T04:20:34 ohh i see ~~ my bad then 2013-08-12T04:21:09 Yeah, it was full because we actually streamed back then, which I wouldn't have done anyway if I hadn't had a co-host. 2013-08-12T04:21:15 Who is not here today. 2013-08-12T04:21:22 i see there are already people that have the actual game do you think we will be able to get it eralier= 2013-08-12T04:21:48 what takes so long, anyway? 2013-08-12T04:21:49 whereismynewtouhou.info is what I think when we'll get the game. 2013-08-12T04:22:39 http://puu.sh/3ZOML.png 2013-08-12T04:22:40 Well, they want to play the game themselves, maybe? They don't see it as an heroic deed to upload it ASAP. 2013-08-12T04:22:55 so someone got the music list 2013-08-12T04:23:00 there is writen exrumia in there btw 2013-08-12T04:23:05 i hope thats not legit 2013-08-12T04:25:01 *** Ederson_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:26:18 *** Flandre has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:30:25 *** dfdsnjc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:33:07 Oh right, forgot a thing. 2013-08-12T04:35:07 If someone of you finds a legit link faster than I do: I only need th14.exe and th14.dat, so I'll probably get it faster if you just re-uploaded these files only. 2013-08-12T04:35:50 ... bu~t that didn't work out the last time I asked, either (th13 trial, so before anything of this here). 2013-08-12T04:35:51 *** Flandre has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:39:45 ... damn. OK, I *will* be going slower after today. 2013-08-12T04:40:06 I'm still finding bugs that originated in that one-week pre-Reitaisai coding binge :( 2013-08-12T04:40:15 *** mkyj369 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T04:40:16 im on 2chan trying my best 2013-08-12T04:40:24 Thanks! 2013-08-12T04:40:33 also jumping from live nico nico to 4chan 2013-08-12T04:40:40 in order to see what i can do 2013-08-12T04:41:01 lurking in 4chan 2013-08-12T04:41:14 is that a kisinnjou irc channel? 2013-08-12T04:41:15 i'll do what i can, but don't hope too much 2013-08-12T04:41:25 not now? 2013-08-12T04:41:46 as soon as i have anything i will put it here 2013-08-12T04:41:58 This is *supposed* to be a Touhou patching channel. 2013-08-12T04:42:09 oh sorry 2013-08-12T04:42:24 is there any leggit touhou chat with theories and deep research there?? 2013-08-12T04:42:29 But well, you know what we're patching today, so... :) 2013-08-12T04:42:30 or is this the only chat ? 2013-08-12T04:42:54 #touhou(wiki) over at esper.net seems to be the right address for that sort of thing. 2013-08-12T04:44:00 oh somebody setup the kisinnjou http://t.co/znViUTJQae 2013-08-12T04:44:02 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Twitter / lafin17: 누군가의 셋업 인증! ... (at t.co) 2013-08-12T04:44:42 *** Seto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:44:57 FOLLOWED 2013-08-12T04:45:56 original source ttp://uproda.2ch-library.com/692227pI3/lib692227.jpg 2013-08-12T04:46:10 from http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/computer/41116/1375978221/l50 2013-08-12T04:46:11 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ˾ Double Dealing Character. Part.13 - ġ (at jbbs.livedoor.jp) 2013-08-12T04:47:31 スレ moved http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/computer/41116/1376273764/l50 2013-08-12T04:47:32 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ˾ Double Dealing Character. Part.14 - ġ (at jbbs.livedoor.jp) 2013-08-12T04:48:20 ok rumia spam 2013-08-12T04:48:31 if there is rumia again 2013-08-12T04:48:39 no please 2013-08-12T04:49:16 ok 2013-08-12T04:49:21 *** mkyj369 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T04:59:25 *** Vavrick has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T05:04:27 *** AlexPistols has quit IRC 2013-08-12T05:05:56 http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1376276656044.jpg 2013-08-12T05:07:12 http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1376272059642.jpg 2013-08-12T05:08:16 http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26741.jpg 2013-08-12T05:08:21 *** mkyj369 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T05:08:45 new ネタ 2013-08-12T05:09:02 http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26741.jpg stage4 screenshot 2013-08-12T05:09:20 little too late. 2013-08-12T05:09:40 and boss http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26742.jpg 2013-08-12T05:09:48 oh so late? 2013-08-12T05:10:08 shes horrible 2013-08-12T05:10:08 omg 2013-08-12T05:10:09 !!! 2013-08-12T05:10:14 give me more of her! 2013-08-12T05:10:32 ~~like alice~~ 2013-08-12T05:11:55 there we go 2013-08-12T05:12:05 oh boss 2013-08-12T05:12:06 ttp://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26744.jpg 2013-08-12T05:12:09 first "mai waifu" spotted 2013-08-12T05:12:42 tsukumo benhen? 2013-08-12T05:13:35 benben 2013-08-12T05:13:40 sorry 2013-08-12T05:14:55 benzaiten aka sarasvati? 2013-08-12T05:18:32 ?! http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26745.jpg 2013-08-12T05:18:38 WTF... 2013-08-12T05:21:34 *** MM_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T05:22:57 st5? http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26747.jpg 2013-08-12T05:23:24 *** Critz has quit IRC 2013-08-12T05:24:16 kijin -> kishin? horns -> another oni? 2013-08-12T05:24:25 this just keeps getting better 2013-08-12T05:27:18 FUCK 2013-08-12T05:27:23 Why doesn't this build -.- 2013-08-12T05:27:32 huehuehue 2013-08-12T05:27:37 "unresolved external symbol _crc32", I don't have time for such things... ! 2013-08-12T05:27:42 五面ボス操作反転してきやがったｗｗｗ 2013-08-12T05:27:51 WTF 2013-08-12T05:28:02 is that lie? 2013-08-12T05:28:10 st5 2013-08-12T05:29:03 *** MM_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T05:29:18 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21573607 2013-08-12T05:29:20 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 東方輝針城　～ Double Dealing Character. "4～6面" ノーマル ‐ ニコニコ動画:Q (at www.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T05:29:24 *sigh*. 2013-08-12T05:29:25 oh 2013-08-12T05:29:29 thanks 2013-08-12T05:30:25 http://momijitocirno.sakura.ne.jp/remilia/uploader2/src/remy26748.jpg 2013-08-12T05:31:17 ...seriously? 2013-08-12T05:31:24 noodlebowl? 2013-08-12T05:32:42 yeah 2013-08-12T05:32:53 sukuna_shinmyoumaru 2013-08-12T05:32:56 hmm 2013-08-12T05:33:35 So that makes Benben Tsukumu = St4 Boss, Seija Kijin = St5 Boss, Shinmyoumaru Sukuna = St6 Boss (all in western name order)? 2013-08-12T05:34:00 *Benben Tsukumo 2013-08-12T05:35:18 pretty much 2013-08-12T05:35:47 not necessarily 2013-08-12T05:35:53 Nope. 2013-08-12T05:36:13 in the video benben isn't the boss 2013-08-12T05:36:14 Yatsuha?? Tsukumo = St4 Boss 2013-08-12T05:36:55 Two boss characters talking. Ouch. 2013-08-12T05:37:58 stage 5 theme sounds pretty nice 2013-08-12T05:38:01 Oh well, we will have dumped the names before we do dialogue anyway. :) 2013-08-12T05:38:16 i mean boss theme 2013-08-12T05:38:21 for what i see, Reimu and Marisa have different mid-bosses 2013-08-12T05:38:37 Benben is Reimu`s 2013-08-12T05:38:50 but the boss fight seems like a royal pain 2013-08-12T05:39:10 Yes! Thanks Vavrick, this is just the kind of info I'm looking for. 2013-08-12T05:39:45 ... I mean, no, assigning boxes to characters will be a royal pain now 2013-08-12T05:40:42 Yeah, it's not really relevant for patching, but I do want that the translators know who speaks when without playing the game. 2013-08-12T05:42:27 New ECL instruction confirmed 2013-08-12T05:42:42 "Turn the fucking screen upside down" 2013-08-12T05:42:51 damn 2013-08-12T05:43:12 More like... turn the screen by $angle 2013-08-12T05:43:25 http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1376278788365.jpg 2013-08-12T05:48:52 Yet another ECL instruction confirmed 2013-08-12T05:49:09 "Increase player sprite and hitbox size" 2013-08-12T05:50:30 @tweets 1 2013-08-12T05:50:33 <[Bot]MagicStone> Nmlgc: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. 2013-08-12T05:50:58 Oh fuck you. 2013-08-12T05:51:01 https://twitter.com/thpatch/status/366768599580413952 2013-08-12T05:51:02 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Twitter / thpatch: Lots of new danmaku script ... (at twitter.com) 2013-08-12T05:55:43 *** Critz has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:03:51 *** MagicLeaf has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:07:32 *** Kuraikun has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:07:58 *** Vavrick has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:11:40 *** NASU has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:12:20 *** NASU has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:17:11 *** mkyj369 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:21:32 *** lagarto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:21:55 ... 2013-08-12T06:22:05 :) 2013-08-12T06:23:36 *** lagarto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:26:02 *** Mamizou_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:30:21 http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv148561506 2013-08-12T06:30:23 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 【東方輝針城_製品版4面から】輝針城、買ってきました【ノーマル初プレイ】 - 2013/08/12 12:57開始 - ニコニコ生放送 (at live.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T06:30:30 extra stage 2013-08-12T06:32:34 *** Zephiem has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:38:21 *** anonononono has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:40:20 *** ederson_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:42:39 *** natsurou has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:45:14 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:45:59 *** lagarto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:46:04 eeeeeeeeekk 2013-08-12T06:46:58 Spoilers everywhere.... 2013-08-12T06:47:16 hahaha yeah 2013-08-12T06:47:29 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:47:53 *** natsurou has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:48:31 So, 2013-08-12 build out. Everyone who doesn't have thcrap already, please download now! http://thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Download 2013-08-12T06:48:33 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou Community Reliant Automatic Patcher - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-08-12T06:48:45 *** Maki_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:49:32 *** MM_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:50:42 (And yes, you *do* want this even as an editor of an inferior competing wiki because skipgame and data dumping and shit) 2013-08-12T06:56:41 *** Maki_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:57:57 *** boing has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T06:57:59 *** Mamizou_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:58:39 *** MM_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T06:59:07 So, now to put that sprintf back in... 2013-08-12T07:04:02 *** lagarto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T07:13:33 Done! 2013-08-12T07:22:27 *** MRafX has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T07:23:32 *** MRafX has quit IRC 2013-08-12T07:25:43 *** cop has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T07:25:56 hey, did anyone find a touhou 14 download yet? 2013-08-12T07:26:15 Not that I'm aware of. 2013-08-12T07:26:20 I'm not actively searching, though. 2013-08-12T07:26:33 yeah, just looking at videos of the game 2013-08-12T07:26:38 final boss looks really fun 2013-08-12T07:29:36 *** Ederson has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T07:32:13 *** ederson_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T07:38:19 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T07:42:11 *** cop has quit IRC 2013-08-12T07:50:41 *** mkyj369 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T07:55:24 *** mkyj369 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:00:33 hey, I don't know what this is, but it was posted in the touhouwiki irc http://s1.gptwm.com/ichigobouzu/thq/patch_1_0_1.exe 2013-08-12T08:00:39 *** Zallonza has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:00:44 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-12T08:00:57 do ya think it might be a th14 patch? 2013-08-12T08:00:59 (7:49:25 AM) totlmstr: er.... related to The Genius of Sappheiros 2013-08-12T08:01:00 (7:49:34 AM) totlmstr: an RPG 2013-08-12T08:01:07 oh 2013-08-12T08:01:07 I am there, too. 2013-08-12T08:01:26 sorry and thankyou. 2013-08-12T08:02:40 *** Chyvalle has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:05:00 *** Flandre has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:08:26 *** Flandre_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:09:13 *** MRafX has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:11:02 *** natsurou has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:11:39 *** Flandre has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:12:25 *** Okimura has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:13:32 Anyone have link down for Touhou 14 ? 2013-08-12T08:16:04 *** Flandre_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:16:41 *** Flandre has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:16:51 still waiting 2013-08-12T08:17:13 we have pics and names of the characters, but no exe 2013-08-12T08:17:55 please don't spoiler them 2013-08-12T08:18:04 if there's a link i'll mirror it 2013-08-12T08:18:06 Yes, please do spoiler them. 2013-08-12T08:18:11 This *is* spoiler zone. 2013-08-12T08:18:21 ok 2013-08-12T08:18:26 no spoils 2013-08-12T08:18:35 good 2013-08-12T08:18:51 For example, I still need confirmation on the Stage 4 boss issue, when you face which Tsukomo sister. 2013-08-12T08:19:25 bobbob's name? 2013-08-12T08:19:57 Someone said you face Benben with Type A and Yatsuhashi with Type B. Or was it the other way round... ? 2013-08-12T08:20:06 oh 2013-08-12T08:20:45 Not knowing this stuff in advance costs me time later... and I'd like to go to sleep ASAP 2013-08-12T08:21:05 (because I have to play the game to find out myself) 2013-08-12T08:21:33 Also, second extra stage y/n? 2013-08-12T08:21:40 *** MRafX has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:21:43 I want to know too 2013-08-12T08:21:52 (well, it's Extra, so that does matter comparatively little) 2013-08-12T08:22:02 *** MRafX has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:24:09 *** cop has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:24:18 O~h, shi~ 2013-08-12T08:24:31 i was saying the same thing............... 2013-08-12T08:24:44 That guy is really going to overwrite the entire English translation of th10 Reimu's Scenario with a German one 2013-08-12T08:25:07 wat 2013-08-12T08:25:22 I wrote him half an hour ago, but he doesn't sto~p! 2013-08-12T08:25:23 i was planning to play sakuya A first but i am scared that she will be useless at extra in the same way as reimu A in EoSD 2013-08-12T08:25:50 I don't want to ban him temporarily either because 2013-08-12T08:26:42 And the thing is, we do have a German th10 Reimu's Scenario already 2013-08-12T08:26:54 *** Okimura has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:27:38 what did he do wrong? 2013-08-12T08:27:59 He didn't read the tutorial clearly, I presume. 2013-08-12T08:28:51 A~nd I'm still seeing 2-month-old builds of thcrap running through the access log -.- 2013-08-12T08:30:15 *** natsurou has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:30:18 *** Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:33:05 *** Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:33:09 *** lagarto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:33:34 :( 2013-08-12T08:34:58 *** lagarto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:35:34 *** cop has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:41:04 *** Flandre has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:42:16 *** Flandre has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:44:37 *** MRafX has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:45:01 *** MRafX has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:50:17 *** boing has quit IRC 2013-08-12T08:50:35 *** boing has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:50:46 *** ttotbo has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:52:36 *** alexpistols has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:53:08 *** Ushiroma has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T08:57:35 *** Ushiroma has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:01:23 *** NotYoru has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:03:59 i found someone who already has the game and doesn't want to upload it...... 2013-08-12T09:04:30 -.- 2013-08-12T09:04:43 Sounds as if convincing was impossible. Oh well. 2013-08-12T09:04:46 what a knicker 2013-08-12T09:05:52 try to convince the admin(s): https://www.facebook.com/Project.Touhou/posts/666258043402425 2013-08-12T09:05:53 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Kommentare (at www.facebook.com) 2013-08-12T09:06:36 That sounds more as if it was implying "because piracy is bad". 2013-08-12T09:07:22 *** Decidetto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:07:47 Ah, hey. I was hanging around in #newtouhou, but it was all dead over there. :P 2013-08-12T09:08:51 yeah it's squalid 2013-08-12T09:09:52 *** MRafX has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:10:30 *** chob has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:10:37 *** MRafX has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:10:40 *** Zallonza has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:10:46 *** Asigu has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:11:28 i see a great loss of interest .___________. 2013-08-12T09:12:11 where my toho 14 at 2013-08-12T09:12:12 Why i don't see link down 2013-08-12T09:12:22 Because there is none. Yet. 2013-08-12T09:12:41 So, since the timer has now run out, we're counting up from here. 2013-08-12T09:13:22 can you link me to that site 2013-08-12T09:13:23 shall we bomb that fb page? 2013-08-12T09:13:25 i lost it somehow 2013-08-12T09:13:35 http://www.whereismynewtouhou.info/ 2013-08-12T09:13:36 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: "wer (dafuq) iz mai noo 2hu?" - 'Finally, patch speed = fanart speed' edition (at www.whereismynewtouhou.info) 2013-08-12T09:13:40 ty. 2013-08-12T09:13:47 "Bomb", as in... ? 2013-08-12T09:14:12 does that technically mean spam 2013-08-12T09:14:13 Shit, They upload too long 2013-08-12T09:14:35 Hah, the guy is politely reverting back every single dialog box. Hooray. 2013-08-12T09:15:00 so how does everyone feel about the bosses 2013-08-12T09:15:11 they look super fun imo 2013-08-12T09:15:45 could have been worse 2013-08-12T09:15:56 rage inducing gimmicks game 2013-08-12T09:16:12 dancing issun girl looks like she can be a pain in the ass on lunatic 2013-08-12T09:16:24 we already know how ridiculous Kagerou is... 2013-08-12T09:16:29 on lunatic, that is 2013-08-12T09:16:56 *** dude has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:16:56 the hitboxes will probably end up like the new bullets in th13 too, i'm waiting to get raped by them 2013-08-12T09:17:20 *** dude is now known as Guest33679 2013-08-12T09:17:29 *** lagarto has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:17:56 my only peeve is that the game showers you with resources, despite the fact that bombing everything isn't the best idea... 2013-08-12T09:18:55 tho i guess if you're playing to actually capture stuff than the game is hard 2013-08-12T09:19:27 so apparently there are rumors of a phantasm stage, is this true? 2013-08-12T09:20:25 *** skjde has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:20:53 *** TooMuchBullets has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:23:05 *** mkyj369 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:23:19 not likely 2013-08-12T09:24:06 *** Ederson has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:25:42 *** Ederson has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:33:40 the stage 5 theme feels so nostalgic 2013-08-12T09:34:53 *** Critz has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:35:21 kinda 2013-08-12T09:36:10 reminds me of IN 2013-08-12T09:36:33 If its new areas after stage 4 than it doesn't seem like its based off another theme 2013-08-12T09:37:30 for some reason, stage 5 boss theme reminds me of some Moomin BGM 2013-08-12T09:37:55 :/ 2013-08-12T09:38:21 wait, you found a dl link already ? 2013-08-12T09:38:38 no 2013-08-12T09:38:43 im watchign a vid on YT 2013-08-12T09:38:48 oh, i see 2013-08-12T09:38:50 damn 2013-08-12T09:38:51 with the gameplay of stage 4 5 6 and extra 2013-08-12T09:38:57 was hype for a second 2013-08-12T09:39:02 yea ^^ 2013-08-12T09:39:08 who's actively searching for dls 2013-08-12T09:39:21 "actively".... 2013-08-12T09:39:35 :( 2013-08-12T09:39:42 i mean I'm trying... 2013-08-12T09:40:01 Is there anything more to do than refreshing Baidu periodically? 2013-08-12T09:40:12 refresh nyaa .____. 2013-08-12T09:41:06 ^ doing this lol 2013-08-12T09:42:31 xD 2013-08-12T09:43:32 nothing else on fb 2013-08-12T09:43:39 *** Critz has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:44:56 *** Nazrin has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:45:39 *** NotYoru has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:45:59 nothing interestin on twitter hashtag #東方 2013-08-12T09:47:00 you know it shouldnt take this long 2013-08-12T09:47:13 HM camee out earlier than this 2013-08-12T09:47:14 probably a record so far 2013-08-12T09:47:25 i remember td was within minutes 2013-08-12T09:47:31 but that game sucks ass 2013-08-12T09:47:48 now for a game that actually looks good, decides to take the longest lol 2013-08-12T09:48:00 :/ 2013-08-12T09:48:01 Ah well, they have to rely on PEOPLE to get their download links. You know people. :P 2013-08-12T09:48:12 tru dat 2013-08-12T09:48:43 *** Critz has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:49:19 maybe we couldve got them now if some people werent stingy 2013-08-12T09:49:37 i heard rumors of people getting more than one copy 2013-08-12T09:49:37 zun, Y U no torrent urself? ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) 2013-08-12T09:49:56 cuz zun wants moneh for his game 2013-08-12T09:50:11 ZUN, Y U no paid download? 2013-08-12T09:50:21 cuz NO ONE pays for a download 2013-08-12T09:50:30 I would. 2013-08-12T09:50:33 can i buy that issun girl 2013-08-12T09:50:34 if we wants money so much why doesnt he sells overseas? 2013-08-12T09:50:39 shes fucking kawaii 2013-08-12T09:50:49 Exactly, alexpistols. 2013-08-12T09:50:54 DDAT 2013-08-12T09:50:55 orwhyheisnt sueinganybody 2013-08-12T09:51:11 he does it as a little hobby in the first place 2013-08-12T09:51:20 Because he "doesn't want to concern himself with what happens overseas" 2013-08-12T09:51:34 like I always say 2013-08-12T09:51:39 anyone who doesn't want to pay won't buy it anyway and will just download it later. so I'm not sure if he's making a big difference to his income like that. 2013-08-12T09:51:42 its okay as long as they dont sue ya 2013-08-12T09:52:05 im p damn sure he doesn't make a great living off this 2013-08-12T09:52:08 Source: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Summary_Record_of_a_Chat_Between_ZUN_and_a_Korean_Touhou_Fan_at_Comiket76 2013-08-12T09:52:09 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Summary Record of a Chat Between ZUN and a Korean Touhou Fan at Comiket76 - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net) 2013-08-12T09:52:09 like you said, it is just a hobby 2013-08-12T09:53:26 god am i happy that there was no mima spam for this one 2013-08-12T09:53:47 raijin girl is cool anyway 2013-08-12T09:54:38 It begins. http://down.thwiki.cc/?v=e&e=c84 2013-08-12T09:54:39 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ComicMarket84 (at down.thwiki.cc) 2013-08-12T09:54:51 ringo became a thunder god lol 2013-08-12T09:56:06 *** Ederson has quit IRC 2013-08-12T09:57:00 *** Ederson has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T09:57:14 wheres my bob marley phantasm boss 2013-08-12T09:58:54 > A~nd I'm still seeing 2-month-old builds of thcrap running through the access log -.- <-- should've added "plz2upgrade" response 2013-08-12T09:59:10 I did, eventually. 2013-08-12T09:59:28 eventually is the problem. 2013-08-12T10:01:08 Indeed. 2013-08-12T10:01:32 (although the hope for users being sane is understandable) 2013-08-12T10:01:43 *** Asigu has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:01:54 *** nana_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:03:07 anyway, where should I idle to be able to quickly get notification on availability of scripts to translate? 2013-08-12T10:03:27 I'll try to post here. 2013-08-12T10:03:29 *** Mono_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:03:33 gotcha 2013-08-12T10:04:27 im suprised not much new characters on pixic or the boorus 2013-08-12T10:04:44 *pixiv 2013-08-12T10:04:52 heya 2013-08-12T10:05:33 hi 2013-08-12T10:06:49 *** lagarto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:07:58 *** Kuraikun has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:19:18 *** chob has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:19:40 *** cirno-chan has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:22:17 *** mkyj369 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:22:56 *** mkyj369 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:29:27 *** chob has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:31:07 *** Mono_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:33:47 *** chob has quit IRC 2013-08-12T10:39:01 http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=1298168414&uk=2433041610 2013-08-12T10:39:04 pass is fchr 2013-08-12T10:39:09 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 百度云 请输入提取密码 (at pan.baidu.com) 2013-08-12T10:39:41 is it the th14 link???!?!!?!?!??!?!? 2013-08-12T10:40:02 Yes. Unconfirmed, though, but it's probably legit. 2013-08-12T10:40:17 im downloading it and ill check it once its finished 2013-08-12T10:40:20 but it seems legit 2013-08-12T10:40:31 * Nmlgc hopes the .exe and .dat are in front of the archive 2013-08-12T10:40:34 i'm crying 2013-08-12T10:40:53 ^ 2013-08-12T10:41:31 Gonna take forever offa baidu but oh well. 2013-08-12T10:42:07 just 44 mins for me 2013-08-12T10:42:12 slow as always 2013-08-12T10:42:27 looks like it was worth the weight 2013-08-12T10:42:44 I wonder how long it would take to get me that new ui-70 album 2013-08-12T10:42:50 or yuyuko ikaruga 2013-08-12T10:42:53 it's all bgm and dx libraries i think 2013-08-12T10:44:55 DirectX installers confirmed 2013-08-12T10:45:08 already downloaded it? 2013-08-12T10:45:16 no game 2013-08-12T10:45:22 Just peeked at what's already downloaded. 2013-08-12T10:45:33 I mean no game? 2013-08-12T10:45:58 how can you...? 2013-08-12T10:46:13 Copy the *.part file and rename it *.zip? 2013-08-12T10:46:24 (Assuming you're using Firefox.) 2013-08-12T10:46:40 every time i tried it it gave me a corrupted file 2013-08-12T10:46:55 and of course i'm using ff 2013-08-12T10:47:09 WinRAR works, 7-Zip doesn't 2013-08-12T10:48:47 dx only now... 2013-08-12T10:49:10 i can't even get the dl page to load... 2013-08-12T10:49:24 i'll make a torrent when it finishes 2013-08-12T10:49:35 oh thanks 2013-08-12T10:52:08 th14.dat readme.txt omake.txt custom.exe confirmed 2013-08-12T10:52:39 Alright, updating the page now. 2013-08-12T10:52:42 I'd reupload it to mega or something but I have to catch a flight in a few hours. 2013-08-12T10:53:32 I have the game 2013-08-12T10:53:46 completed download? 2013-08-12T10:53:50 yeah 2013-08-12T10:53:53 so fast ? 2013-08-12T10:54:08 had to remove any moonrunes to get it working as usual 2013-08-12T10:54:19 can you confirm the other files? 2013-08-12T10:54:38 i can confirm 2013-08-12T10:54:43 I have the game up and running 2013-08-12T10:54:44 hou 2013-08-12T10:54:47 you can confirm its full version? 2013-08-12T10:55:14 you mean like to see if its just the demo version 2013-08-12T10:55:22 practice mode works 2013-08-12T10:55:34 the full OST is there as well 2013-08-12T10:55:44 have actually played it yet 2013-08-12T10:55:45 hell yea 2013-08-12T10:55:45 then its full 2013-08-12T10:55:46 Guys, can I get a SHA-256 and the file size in bytes of the .exe? 2013-08-12T10:55:53 uploaded to http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/post.pl here 2013-08-12T10:55:54 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ★Axfc UpLoader -ファイルの投稿- (at www1.axfc.net) 2013-08-12T10:56:06 SHA-256? 2013-08-12T10:56:07 much better 2013-08-12T10:56:42 th14 too fast 2013-08-12T10:56:42 well the exe is 878 kilobytes 2013-08-12T10:56:44 *** chob has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T10:56:53 ok i clicked on the link, where the hell is the download lol 2013-08-12T10:57:08 i'm confused 2013-08-12T10:57:42 there's like 8 items there 2013-08-12T10:57:53 Ah, nevermind, got it myself now. 2013-08-12T10:57:56 umm I can't english well 2013-08-12T10:58:02 I go into spell practice 2013-08-12T10:58:07 shows stages 1-EX 2013-08-12T10:58:08 i can't brain today 2013-08-12T10:58:27 baidu link got taken down 2013-08-12T10:58:44 hah I lucky for me! 2013-08-12T10:58:50 ? 2013-08-12T10:58:53 please re upload it now 2013-08-12T10:58:56 on mediafire or mega 2013-08-12T10:59:16 mines still downloading 2013-08-12T10:59:21 cant reuplaodit 2013-08-12T10:59:22 ok 2013-08-12T10:59:27 Eh, im in the middle of the baidu download too.... think it'll finish? 2013-08-12T10:59:42 shit 2013-08-12T10:59:43 13 minutes to go 2013-08-12T10:59:44 baidu is locked 2013-08-12T10:59:54 this game really doesn't want to be leaked at all now does it? 2013-08-12T11:00:03 I don't no that's password 2013-08-12T11:00:16 well, apparently one user has it 2013-08-12T11:00:23 so 2013-08-12T11:00:26 9 mins 2013-08-12T11:00:33 will it even finish downloading now that baidu is taken down? 2013-08-12T11:00:35 *** ggjjhd has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:00:38 hmm 2013-08-12T11:00:43 Mines still going so... i assume so. 2013-08-12T11:00:46 Same here. 2013-08-12T11:00:46 why i can't downlod 2013-08-12T11:01:01 @TooMuchBullets mbs are growing 2013-08-12T11:01:02 <[Bot]MagicStone> Flandre: Error: "TooMuchBullets" is not a valid command. 2013-08-12T11:01:05 I think the file might have been hosted for a certain number of users before it stopped giving out new downloads. 2013-08-12T11:01:20 d'oh 2013-08-12T11:01:20 *** Frenticponi has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:01:21 *** Chyvalle has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:01:37 well some of us got the full thing anyways so i guess it's alright... 2013-08-12T11:01:37 well, for those certain number of users that got it here 2013-08-12T11:01:55 do the touhou fandom a favor and reupload on a proper faster dl site like mediafire 2013-08-12T11:01:59 they can reupload 2013-08-12T11:02:10 I'm still about... 35ish minutes to go. 2013-08-12T11:02:15 so do you any know from baidu password? 2013-08-12T11:02:16 lmao 2013-08-12T11:02:17 i said i'll make the torrent and upload it to nyaa 2013-08-12T11:02:25 cool 2013-08-12T11:02:33 but for those that got it, we're in the clear? 2013-08-12T11:02:36 this is the game? 2013-08-12T11:02:36 oh nyaa 2013-08-12T11:02:37 I wouldn't worry about the game getting leaked. 2013-08-12T11:02:47 ah? 2013-08-12T11:02:48 Please up more link down ; A; 2013-08-12T11:02:53 hmm' 2013-08-12T11:03:06 calm down, some users have it 2013-08-12T11:03:13 we just have to wait for them 2013-08-12T11:03:15 mine''s still downloading 2013-08-12T11:03:18 *facepalm* 2013-08-12T11:03:22 gonna record gameplay when its finished 2013-08-12T11:03:42 They replace another link 2013-08-12T11:03:48 358/548 mb 2013-08-12T11:04:23 wait a minuite or hours 2013-08-12T11:04:24 *** Frenticponi has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:04:25 oh 2013-08-12T11:04:44 362 MB of 548 MB 2013-08-12T11:05:11 yeah trust me it'll complete 2013-08-12T11:05:24 lucky mofos 2013-08-12T11:05:35 yeah 2013-08-12T11:06:19 400 mb 2013-08-12T11:06:24 eeeeeeeeee 2013-08-12T11:06:32 yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeah 2013-08-12T11:06:39 *** Chyvalle has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:06:43 hype 2013-08-12T11:07:10 i guess once the dl is reuploaded to mediafire or mega 2013-08-12T11:07:15 moriya shrine will get word 2013-08-12T11:07:20 *** koopie has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:07:35 fast hosting site... 2013-08-12T11:08:07 but I just wait 2013-08-12T11:08:14 always wait 2013-08-12T11:09:21 flandre, are you planning on dumping it on nyaa? 2013-08-12T11:09:38 is it a bad idea? 2013-08-12T11:09:41 yes. 2013-08-12T11:09:49 use mega or mediafire. 2013-08-12T11:09:54 for all that is holy 2013-08-12T11:09:55 has deleted? 2013-08-12T11:10:20 eeeehhhh no it takes so much time before i complete the upload if i use a hosting site 2013-08-12T11:10:40 it seems the file has been deleted 2013-08-12T11:10:43 if i make the torrent i can start seeding when i upload the torrent 2013-08-12T11:10:44 that baidu link 2013-08-12T11:10:49 ok 2013-08-12T11:11:04 hmm 2013-08-12T11:11:06 495 MB! 2013-08-12T11:11:13 just wait? 2013-08-12T11:11:20 I'll uh provide a link to Moriya Shrine and other big touhou dl sites if i can 2013-08-12T11:11:33 *** namestaken has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:11:49 stage 4 confirmed 2013-08-12T11:11:56 1 min to go 2013-08-12T11:12:07 oh 2013-08-12T11:12:53 omg its rattling my bones 2013-08-12T11:13:01 oh 2013-08-12T11:13:24 *** Zallonza has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:13:41 AWW YES 2013-08-12T11:13:45 *** Kashuzu has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:13:53 MAJOR STAGE 4 DIFFICULTY SPIKE 2013-08-12T11:13:54 DONE 2013-08-12T11:13:59 not yet? 2013-08-12T11:14:00 thank you 2013-08-12T11:14:01 oh 2013-08-12T11:14:09 good job flandre 2013-08-12T11:14:28 is this file is true? 2013-08-12T11:14:31 *** krolk has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:14:32 well i cant download torrent here, so is there some other download link now? 2013-08-12T11:14:37 not fake? 2013-08-12T11:14:46 not for the moment 2013-08-12T11:14:49 alexpistols can confirm it's not a fake 2013-08-12T11:15:00 oh nice thing 2013-08-12T11:15:15 uploeded yet? 2013-08-12T11:15:16 use Utorrent 2013-08-12T11:15:23 still waiting? 2013-08-12T11:16:08 http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=462401 2013-08-12T11:16:09 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: NyaaTorrents Touhou 14 - Double Dealing Character [C84] (at www.nyaa.se) 2013-08-12T11:16:23 i got horrible net here, using torrent would take ages for me 2013-08-12T11:16:41 which is why it should be uploaded to mega or mediafire 2013-08-12T11:16:53 those are more universal for the general public 2013-08-12T11:17:08 no touhou dl site will ever even consider using a torrent 2013-08-12T11:17:14 Y U NO use mediafire 2013-08-12T11:17:21 Step 1/17 completed. thcrap_configure can now recognize the full version. 2013-08-12T11:17:29 hmm 2013-08-12T11:17:41 somthing wrong? 2013-08-12T11:17:46 *** namestaken has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:18:02 i already explained that 2013-08-12T11:18:12 oh god 2013-08-12T11:18:13 i am using utorrent 2013-08-12T11:18:18 so it should be good 2013-08-12T11:18:18 swooping 2013-08-12T11:18:21 curvy 2013-08-12T11:18:23 laser 2013-08-12T11:18:24 c'mon guys the torrent is just for right now... it'l get on mega and mediafire soon anyways 2013-08-12T11:18:50 torrent too late 2013-08-12T11:19:13 stage 5 right now 2013-08-12T11:19:17 *** Ederson has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:19:52 *** TooMuchBullets has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:20:35 hmmm 2013-08-12T11:20:38 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 2013-08-12T11:20:48 come on guyz somebody be so kind and upload it on mega 2013-08-12T11:20:53 too late ;o; 2013-08-12T11:20:56 jesus christ this torrent is going to take centuries 2013-08-12T11:21:05 very late 2013-08-12T11:21:06 yea... 11 kB/s... 2013-08-12T11:21:11 be patient please, lol :3 2013-08-12T11:21:28 jesus this stage puts a lot od emphasis on backward firing bullets 2013-08-12T11:21:29 probably cuz only one person has 100% so far? 2013-08-12T11:21:45 yea guess so 2013-08-12T11:21:46 4kB/s ... well i guess torrent is really no use for me 2013-08-12T11:21:59 I would upload but ny internet is to slow for bulk uploads 2013-08-12T11:22:22 eh the baidu will finish for me in like 15 2013-08-12T11:22:33 ill see how long it will take for me to upload to mega after that. 2013-08-12T11:22:33 nice 2013-08-12T11:22:41 can i open "098c320a5522505834aafa89b4f91921b55b" with 7zip? 2013-08-12T11:22:48 it got to 45 kB/s here 2013-08-12T11:22:49 ah great finally 2013-08-12T11:22:58 2.3 mbs on mine 2013-08-12T11:23:01 so who do you think is easiest to play with? Marisa A? 2013-08-12T11:23:04 (using utorrent) 2013-08-12T11:23:07 ... 2013-08-12T11:23:08 another torrent limk 2013-08-12T11:23:17 Zallonza, i think Reimu A 2013-08-12T11:23:18 http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=462400 2013-08-12T11:23:19 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: NyaaTorrents Touhou DDC (at www.nyaa.se) 2013-08-12T11:23:20 ah theres another torrent? 2013-08-12T11:23:23 because of smallest hitbox 2013-08-12T11:23:26 yeah 2013-08-12T11:23:28 how many seeders? 2013-08-12T11:23:42 JESUS CHRIST 2013-08-12T11:23:43 to much 2013-08-12T11:23:47 INVERTED CONTROLS 2013-08-12T11:23:48 fast 2013-08-12T11:23:50 ll 2013-08-12T11:23:55 i hate her focus, it hurts my eyes 2013-08-12T11:23:56 lol 2013-08-12T11:24:03 oh 2013-08-12T11:24:10 whoa this is going faster now 2013-08-12T11:24:11 another baidu 2013-08-12T11:24:14 almost at 100 mbs! 2013-08-12T11:24:41 http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=1734198456&uk=4077838455 2013-08-12T11:24:44 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 東方輝針城.zip_免费高速下载|百度云 网盘-分享无限制 (at pan.baidu.com) 2013-08-12T11:24:54 this might be themost annoying stage 5 boss ever 2013-08-12T11:24:58 Can we get a mirror on Mega like last time? 2013-08-12T11:24:59 that damn mechanic 2013-08-12T11:25:00 that's source 2013-08-12T11:25:10 but too late 2013-08-12T11:25:14 even worse than orin? 2013-08-12T11:25:29 shou is still the most annoying 2013-08-12T11:25:33 yess 2013-08-12T11:25:40 but oni girl looks annoying too 2013-08-12T11:25:41 and might be even worse than shou 2013-08-12T11:25:48 jeez, that says a lot 2013-08-12T11:25:55 I'll check it out soon when mine is done download 2013-08-12T11:26:06 gonna nab a few hard/lunatic 1ccs 2013-08-12T11:26:37 torrent for DDC id 86% 2013-08-12T11:26:43 *is 2013-08-12T11:26:44 i might just bombspam kagerou on lunatic 2013-08-12T11:26:47 because fucking really 2013-08-12T11:26:50 eh im only getting like, a few kbps on both the torrents 2013-08-12T11:26:56 give it time 2013-08-12T11:26:59 it'll go faster 2013-08-12T11:27:12 kagerou isnt really bombworthy if you have the right mind 2013-08-12T11:27:21 downloeded is... 2013-08-12T11:27:30 but you'll definetly need bombs on stage 4 2013-08-12T11:27:31 *** Decidetto has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:27:39 compleat 2013-08-12T11:27:40 extra looks hard like hell 2013-08-12T11:27:41 !!! 2013-08-12T11:27:42 what are you playing on if i may ask 2013-08-12T11:27:49 who me? 2013-08-12T11:27:50 normal 1cc? 2013-08-12T11:27:51 DDC 2013-08-12T11:27:52 yeah 2013-08-12T11:27:53 *** ggjjhd has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:27:54 normal 2013-08-12T11:27:57 ah 2013-08-12T11:28:02 looks p hard even on normal 2013-08-12T11:28:07 just 2013-08-12T11:28:12 i was scared that this would be another shitty TD 2013-08-12T11:28:15 and be piss easy 2013-08-12T11:28:15 ill go normal 1cc with Marisa A 2013-08-12T11:28:22 plz me uploding link in mega 2013-08-12T11:28:26 gonna try hard first 2013-08-12T11:28:29 or mid 2013-08-12T11:28:40 either one is fine 2013-08-12T11:28:42 dude chilskies 2013-08-12T11:28:45 TD was boringly easy, i hope this will be hard as SA though 2013-08-12T11:28:52 hmm 2013-08-12T11:28:53 i can perfect the first three stages on hard at least, so hopefully that'tl be enough for stage 4 and up 2013-08-12T11:28:56 cuz ill fucking need it 2013-08-12T11:29:09 yeah I thought it was gonna be like IN thorugout the entire game 2013-08-12T11:29:12 ok 2013-08-12T11:29:13 issun chick looks really annoying too 2013-08-12T11:29:21 i can't believe she has a survival 2013-08-12T11:29:26 I just finish 2013-08-12T11:29:28 but it turns out to be like SA once you reach stage 4 2013-08-12T11:29:35 and i go out 2013-08-12T11:29:42 *** mkyj369 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:29:43 i bet lunatic on this game is crazy stage 4 and up 2013-08-12T11:29:48 the thing with this game 2013-08-12T11:29:57 is that normal and lunatic have an unusually large gap this time 2013-08-12T11:30:09 oh man i hate the difficulty spikes, id rather it not be seriously noticeable 2013-08-12T11:30:14 so lunatic may be on par with sa/ufo 2013-08-12T11:30:27 worst difficulty spike is in EoSD 2013-08-12T11:30:32 oh it is really noticable 2013-08-12T11:30:41 what really? 2013-08-12T11:30:42 like almost EoSD noticavle 2013-08-12T11:30:43 users jaimers and zengeku 2013-08-12T11:30:44 will be happy 2013-08-12T11:30:47 about this! 2013-08-12T11:30:48 EoSD is boring as hell in first 3 stages 2013-08-12T11:30:51 true 2013-08-12T11:30:52 *noticable 2013-08-12T11:30:58 perfecting these stages look like a hard task 2013-08-12T11:30:59 but i dont like youmu at all personally. 2013-08-12T11:31:06 https://mega.co.nz/#!4pJVzZCR!XYWmGiRB94xpyNj3n_mfAx6BXVtsAZmofPrkEOmBoi8 2013-08-12T11:31:06 youmu was shit in TD 2013-08-12T11:31:06 https://mega.co.nz/#!4pJVzZCR!XYWmGiRB94xpyNj3n_mfAx6BXVtsAZmofPrkEOmBoi8 2013-08-12T11:31:07 https://mega.co.nz/#!4pJVzZCR!XYWmGiRB94xpyNj3n_mfAx6BXVtsAZmofPrkEOmBoi8 2013-08-12T11:31:08 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: MEGA (at mega.co.nz) 2013-08-12T11:31:09 WOOO 2013-08-12T11:31:11 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: MEGA (at mega.co.nz) 2013-08-12T11:31:13 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: MEGA (at mega.co.nz) 2013-08-12T11:31:16 Wooo ! 2013-08-12T11:31:22 *** TDSpl has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:31:23 THANK YOU 2013-08-12T11:31:26 ah beat me to it 2013-08-12T11:31:29 :P 2013-08-12T11:31:33 ah 2013-08-12T11:31:40 godspeed guys 2013-08-12T11:31:41 https://mega.co.nz/#!4pJVzZCR!XYWmGiRB94xpyNj3n_mfAx6BXVtsAZmofPrkEOmBoi8 2013-08-12T11:31:44 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: MEGA (at mega.co.nz) 2013-08-12T11:31:44 *** rthrht11 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:32:00 anyways guys, I'm off to play some touhou 14 2013-08-12T11:32:18 *** chob has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:32:23 *** BSoD_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:32:30 Later all 2013-08-12T11:32:39 *** Guest33679 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:32:42 Thank you everyone! 2013-08-12T11:32:43 :D 2013-08-12T11:32:44 touhou 14 2013-08-12T11:33:44 *** Kaena has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:33:50 *** TDSpl has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:34:51 Woo... 2013-08-12T11:35:11 Alright, I'm working on thcrap support now. 2013-08-12T11:35:53 It'll take a while longer until stuff is translatable this time because I'd like to fix *all* the buffer overflows in ZUN's code *before* making existing trial content available, and then putting up the rest 2013-08-12T11:36:11 *** rthrht11 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:36:12 *** anonononono has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:36:25 my predictions somewhat came true about the OST for this game 2013-08-12T11:36:57 that being a consistant theme of "metal" 2013-08-12T11:37:09 and that I thank you based zun 2013-08-12T11:37:16 *** Kaena has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:42:36 *** Errori has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:43:20 *** skjde has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:44:30 *** BSoD_ has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:45:34 *** MRafX has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:48:32 welp its been a good night yall 2013-08-12T11:48:35 ciao 2013-08-12T11:48:42 looking foward to that patch 2013-08-12T11:48:51 *** alexpistols has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:50:33 *** skjde has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T11:52:33 *** skjde has quit IRC 2013-08-12T11:56:07 mirror TH 14 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JbyN48nj 2013-08-12T11:57:59 *** ttotbo has quit IRC 2013-08-12T12:06:27 *** Cirno84 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T12:06:43 *** sdf_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T12:06:53 Hello! 2013-08-12T12:07:33 Hi! 2013-08-12T12:08:10 can anyone tell me if the demo XP patch will work on the full game? XD 2013-08-12T12:08:57 No, because that's just a modified .EXE of the demo itself. 2013-08-12T12:09:13 drat 2013-08-12T12:10:59 Just a shot in the dark, does anyone have a XP patch for the game or is that a bit off still? 2013-08-12T12:12:01 *** Zallonza has quit IRC 2013-08-12T12:19:31 XP patch? wat? 2013-08-12T12:45:24 I can't run it on XP says it is not a 32 bit XD 2013-08-12T12:46:35 *** natsurou_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T12:48:45 *** natsurou has quit IRC 2013-08-12T12:50:46 Guys. 2013-08-12T12:50:49 I'm sorry. 2013-08-12T12:51:08 After I've made the images available, I'll go to sleep. 2013-08-12T12:51:17 And I will probably sleep very, very long. 2013-08-12T12:51:32 good luck with that 2013-08-12T12:54:06 *** nthDream has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T12:55:37 Shit shit shit shit shit 2013-08-12T12:55:51 I've failed you all. 2013-08-12T13:00:50 *** Chyvalle has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:00:53 *** Knighty has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T13:01:23 you aren't being paid for it. 2013-08-12T13:05:04 *** Cirno84 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:06:42 *** D_Aya has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T13:07:20 *** krolk has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:08:14 *** Ramnik has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T13:09:27 does anyone have links for the full touhou 14 game? 2013-08-12T13:09:59 http://whereismynewtouhou.info 2013-08-12T13:10:00 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: "wer (dafuq) iz mai noo 2hu?" - 'Finally, patch speed = fanart speed' edition (at whereismynewtouhou.info) 2013-08-12T13:12:28 And is there a troubleshooter of some kind somewhere? It's not translated wheb I start the games (any of them) from the shortcuts. 2013-08-12T13:12:39 *sigh* 2013-08-12T13:12:48 Because I've failed you. 2013-08-12T13:13:00 I *hope* that stuff will show up in the next minutes. 2013-08-12T13:13:29 Just keep using the shortcuts. It will appear translated as soon as everything's ready. 2013-08-12T13:13:57 Ah. Well alright. Power to you, man. 2013-08-12T13:15:32 *** Knighty has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:17:11 Don't expect translations of stages 4-6 and extra within the next 2 days. 2013-08-12T13:37:39 That's it. I'm going to bed. 2013-08-12T13:38:21 Night nameless 2013-08-12T13:42:39 *** nthDream has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:45:34 *** nthDream has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T13:46:27 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:47:03 *** boing has quit IRC 2013-08-12T13:50:45 maaan nmlgc works hard for all of us 2013-08-12T14:04:45 *** Gu9st has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T14:08:51 *** Gu9st has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:12:37 *** Captain has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T14:13:01 *** Captain is now known as Guest13346 2013-08-12T14:15:17 *** Zarakava has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T14:17:49 *** cirno-chan has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:21:23 *** nthDream has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:23:23 *** Ramnik has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:30:48 *** Zarakava has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:31:39 *** BM has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T14:32:03 *** BM is now known as Guest6513 2013-08-12T14:32:46 *** Guest6513 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:33:49 *** Critz has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T14:47:39 *** Kashuzu has quit IRC 2013-08-12T14:58:44 *** BM2 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T15:01:42 Hello? 2013-08-12T15:05:55 *** BM2 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T15:24:19 *** Critz has quit IRC 2013-08-12T15:25:23 *** CaptainJudaism has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T15:25:56 Sorry to be a bother but is anyone here able to assist me with trying to get the patches working correctly? 2013-08-12T15:46:36 *** alekspistols has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T15:51:51 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T15:52:54 Double Dealing Character? I didn't hear about this until about 2 minutes ago. 2013-08-12T15:53:38 Well I know it's out but I don't know about any English for it, save the demo. Not like I've gotten any of that stuff to work. 2013-08-12T15:54:11 Well I guess I have sorta not been looking into this much recently if I missed hearing about the demo. 2013-08-12T15:56:01 As in the game at all? The demo was released May 26th, full version just came out today. 2013-08-12T15:57:34 english patches for full DDC are unlikely to appear in the next two days, but after that they probably will. 2013-08-12T15:58:09 Hell, ATM I'm trying to get the english patches to work at all. 2013-08-12T15:58:18 Yep, didn't hear about it until today, when I incidentally just checked the Touhou rankings for Nicovideo, and was surprised to find a play video among the top. 2013-08-12T15:58:38 *** Zallonza has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T15:59:11 is there some xp patch already? 2013-08-12T16:03:38 Perhaps I might post a translation of this video: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21573607 if nobody translates it for a while. 2013-08-12T16:03:39 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 東方輝針城　～ Double Dealing Character. "4～6面" ノーマル ‐ ニコニコ動画:Q (at www.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T16:04:45 *** Zallonza has quit IRC 2013-08-12T16:18:04 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T16:30:44 *** Zertap has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T16:30:49 Hmm 2013-08-12T16:31:16 I'm having problems with th14 and the patcher 2013-08-12T16:31:33 even if I run it correctly, it doesn't work 2013-08-12T16:31:39 to clarify 2013-08-12T16:31:58 http://moe.tengu.pw/d1.png 2013-08-12T16:32:23 It starts up the game, but no translations at all 2013-08-12T16:32:30 even if they are present in the folder 2013-08-12T16:32:42 I haven't been able to get the patcher to translate any of the games for me. 2013-08-12T16:32:56 Which kinda why I'm here. 2013-08-12T16:33:18 Then I'm not alone 2013-08-12T16:33:21 :D 2013-08-12T16:34:15 And you'll probably be sitting here waiting for a response as long as I have. 2013-08-12T16:35:04 But I'm not bitter. 2013-08-12T16:36:57 there are no patches for full TH14 yet. patches for demo should be working on the demo version of DCC. 2013-08-12T16:37:48 well, maybe there is a patch for full TH14 already, but there are no *translations* yet. they will be there eventually. 2013-08-12T16:37:55 aah 2013-08-12T16:38:06 But what could be stopping every patch/shortcut from working on my PC? 2013-08-12T16:38:07 I just thought because the files were there 2013-08-12T16:38:19 ah yeah this too 2013-08-12T16:38:22 true 2013-08-12T16:38:30 None of my games worked 2013-08-12T16:38:42 testet 125 13 7 and 14 2013-08-12T16:38:45 tested* 2013-08-12T16:39:00 7-13, all just show up as Japanese for me. 2013-08-12T16:39:35 Despite telling the config file to load up everything with English. 2013-08-12T16:40:39 well, that about I dunno. I'm a mere translator who wandered in here just today in order to translate th14. but unfortunately scripts are not extracted yet. 2013-08-12T16:41:34 too bad my japanese consists of about 200 random kanji and some random vocab 2013-08-12T16:41:49 and very little knowledge of grammar 2013-08-12T16:41:52 so 2013-08-12T16:41:53 It's a shame I know more German than Japanese. 2013-08-12T16:42:12 No hopes of understanding anything yet 2013-08-12T16:44:33 (and they won't be extracted any time today, because the only guy who can do that is overworked or something like that, and is currently taking his well deserved sleep. he might also be about the only person who can explain what's happening with your patches. maybe translation server is down or something) 2013-08-12T16:45:55 I've never gotten the patches to work though. :\ I try on again and off again every now and then, than I give up, then I just use the English patches I already have instead. Since every site seems to direct me towards this auto-patcher thing I'm trying to get it to work before all seperate English patches get discontinued. >.> 2013-08-12T16:47:19 ahwell 2013-08-12T16:47:44 albel727: do you have any tips on studying japanese? 2013-08-12T16:48:10 Always looking into trying something new 2013-08-12T16:48:13 to keep me motivated 2013-08-12T16:48:45 dunno, just the ability to understand anime and manga keeps me motivated enough. 2013-08-12T16:51:00 about the tips, I'm bothered by the fact that you say nothing about knowing kana. it and grammar is what you should start studying japanese from. also studying kanji disconnected from the actual words they're used in might be not the best approach. 2013-08-12T16:51:15 yeah I know kana 2013-08-12T16:51:18 lol 2013-08-12T16:51:24 I thought it would be obvious 2013-08-12T16:51:35 this site provides enough grammar for most of japanese you'll hear http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/ 2013-08-12T16:51:36 if I said I knew a few hundred kanji 2013-08-12T16:51:38 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Learn Japanese | Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese (at www.guidetojapanese.org) 2013-08-12T16:51:57 mm yeah, using that for grammar already :3 2013-08-12T16:52:06 I'll stick to German. It's easy. >.> 2013-08-12T16:52:07 Zertap: you would be surprized how many people do just that. grab a copy of RtK and thinking they're studying japanese. 2013-08-12T16:52:26 also using anki(with kanjidamage deck), memrise, wanikani 2013-08-12T16:52:35 some other random sites occasionally 2013-08-12T16:53:00 currently I should start readin the doujinshi I bought at local animecon 2013-08-12T16:53:10 but I can't tell shit from the handwriting in one of them 2013-08-12T16:53:13 :( 2013-08-12T16:53:35 yeah, handwriting is a pain 2013-08-12T16:53:49 *** alekspistols has quit IRC 2013-08-12T16:57:00 and yeah, with kanjidamage, there is vocab included with the kanji 2013-08-12T16:57:02 unlike rtk 2013-08-12T16:58:24 yeah, I know 2013-08-12T17:00:12 still, some people are better off with just reading and remembering words. especially considering gikun and other special pronunciations which can't be derived from kanji readings. 2013-08-12T17:00:43 You made a good point about the importance of grammar tho. tbh I haven't been studying grammar almost at all, but the little I know has helped to remember some words and jukugo 2013-08-12T17:01:01 I should probably read tae kimm's a few times 2013-08-12T17:01:03 hm 2013-08-12T17:01:22 Can u recommend any way to paractice grammar? 2013-08-12T17:01:33 Other than TL'ing 2013-08-12T17:01:35 well, one cannot underestimate the importance of grammar. I think it wouldn't be overstatement to say that only once you understand grammar will you be able to improve on vocabulary. 2013-08-12T17:01:42 hmm, I'm afraid not. 2013-08-12T17:01:54 translating stuff you want to translate is the best and most natural way 2013-08-12T17:02:01 or so I believe. 2013-08-12T17:02:12 I guess I need to start doing that then :p 2013-08-12T17:03:02 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T17:03:16 well, that said, stuff as simple as basic conjugations and declensions you should just memorize up front. 2013-08-12T17:05:02 then you can, e.g. go to your favorite anime and try listening to stuff (setting subtitle delay for ~2 seconds somewhat helps). 2013-08-12T17:07:14 *** pivco has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T17:07:17 ah yeah 2013-08-12T17:07:28 Lol, my friend knows way more vocab than I do 2013-08-12T17:07:34 just from watching anime 2013-08-12T17:07:45 but he doesn't know a single kana 2013-08-12T17:07:50 or never studied japanese 2013-08-12T17:08:10 But he is the type who learns by listening anyways 2013-08-12T17:10:02 well, that way he's likely wasting his memory on remembering the same words in different conjugations, so I wouldn't exactly envy him. but learning by listening is the most natural way. except there is additional hurdle in japanese in the form of kanji, that puts a wall between spoken vocabulary and written vocabulary 2013-08-12T17:10:50 so even once you get very good at understanding anime, when trying to read stuff you'll be nearly back at square one. 2013-08-12T17:10:55 yeah 2013-08-12T17:11:21 Thus I get many requests to romanize something for him 2013-08-12T17:11:38 as he is uploading stuff to a private tracker 2013-08-12T17:12:21 well, that said, reading stuff becomes immensely easier after obtaining proficiency in listening, so learning by listening first is still the best way known to me. 2013-08-12T17:12:47 Yeah 2013-08-12T17:12:58 then you're 50% done already 2013-08-12T17:13:17 You just need to remember the kanji, the reading is burned in your mind already 2013-08-12T17:14:47 ^ that. and most importantly, you already know the grammar and common phrases and whatnot. so I'd say you're more than 50% done. although I know a guy who crawled his way through VNs and obtained epic japanese literacy. anime and suchlike can't compete in vocabulary even with LNs, unfortunately. 2013-08-12T17:15:12 I learned everything through the written language, and when I started listening to Japanese through videos of people playing games while talking, it mostly sounded as I expected, and there were no difficulties even though I have never heard spoken Japanese that much. 2013-08-12T17:15:13 Oh damn 2013-08-12T17:15:25 Well for me 2013-08-12T17:15:28 I'm finnish 2013-08-12T17:15:31 so 2013-08-12T17:15:38 ok, ^ that would be the second such guy I know, then. 2013-08-12T17:16:07 Mostly through looking up words using unfamiliar kanji, or kanji used in unfamiliar ways, so I mostly learned the words written with kanji first before learning all the grammatical words. 2013-08-12T17:16:19 The ...onomatopoeia? 2013-08-12T17:16:30 sura, shikai, daga, chinami, etc. 2013-08-12T17:16:31 is about the same as in japanese 2013-08-12T17:16:39 nah, onomatopoeia is used pretty consistently. 2013-08-12T17:16:43 I mean, shikashi, not shikai 2013-08-12T17:17:00 particles and suchlike constitute grammar 2013-08-12T17:17:53 no not onoasdadad 2013-08-12T17:17:58 anwyays 2013-08-12T17:18:00 So I mostly learned the vocabulary and was able to pick up much of the grammar through context, except for some words that I needed to look up several times before understanding, like "sae" 2013-08-12T17:18:05 japanese sounds the same as finnish 2013-08-12T17:18:14 so pronouncing stuff is easy for me 2013-08-12T17:18:25 damn these weird words 2013-08-12T17:18:44 there's barely a language that is not a superset of japanese in terms of sounds, lol 2013-08-12T17:18:47 *** koopie has quit IRC 2013-08-12T17:18:58 well 2013-08-12T17:19:05 for example english 2013-08-12T17:19:11 vs. japanese 2013-08-12T17:19:29 I would pronounce kawaii the same way in finnish as japanese people read it 2013-08-12T17:19:54 or you 2013-08-12T17:20:07 よう 2013-08-12T17:20:28 but english pronounciation 'yuu' 2013-08-12T17:20:32 if u know what I mean 2013-08-12T17:20:43 well, by that "superset" I meant that there are sounds in most languages, that correspond to the ones in japanese. how a typical english speaker would read "kawaii" is beyond that. 2013-08-12T17:21:17 mmh yea 2013-08-12T17:23:51 Here's one of the oldest vocabulary lists I ever created, made from noting down unfamiliar words I came across: 配達 大した 本物 軽い 気軽 上司 偉い 身内 舌打ち 頭打ち 酔い 作成 成長 成功 招待 任せる 住む 狂う 風邪 矢印 所為 思考 立場 牛肉 不法 無法 舌 足元 足下 足る 迎える 仰る 処理 無音 恥ずかしい 放置 設置 置く 着る 2013-08-12T17:23:52 着地 抱く 抱える 新居 食器 失敗 失敬 終結 悪者 格子 続行 犯人 微笑 有効 説明 釈明 解釈 解説 小説 伝説 解明 紹介 見事 良い訳 偽札 度胸 胸部 触る 触れる 解決 決まる 決める 辺 意識 意思 意志 超絶 気絶 申し訳 屋外 受け取る 強調 調べる 調査 脱ぐ 突っ込む 越す 見張る 運ぶ 位置 過言 過去 主役 頑 2013-08-12T17:23:52 丈 基本 一般 一周 要望 絶望 示す 表示 指示 屋台 冷える 冷める 冷やす 店 確か 確認 確保 寒気 埋める 射る 飽きる 諦める 先程 程 最早 発言 帰宅 合法 命令 可哀想 追放 運ぶ 攻め 落とす 我慢 立派 立地 店 顔面 絵画 及び 扱い 発言 裏切り 裏口 甘い 素晴らしい 結束 投稿 難い 日常 異常 通常 非常 常 2013-08-12T17:23:58 移す 出発 口調 会場 悪化 対応 応対 反対 反省 省略 射撃 直撃 感謝 機会 出掛ける 掛ける 一切 折角 着替える 切り替え 価値 処置 肌 頼む 遠ざかる 復興 屋台 性格 格好 支度 日程 代理 配役 役目 水没 詰む 宇宙 市民 逆 相談 登場 登録 登記 感涙 信頼 怒り 恐怖 回答 修正 2013-08-12T17:24:11 Looking at it now, most of these words seem so basic that they definitely have to be from a long time ago. 2013-08-12T17:24:36 hih 2013-08-12T17:24:43 I recognize some of those 2013-08-12T17:24:50 How many would you estimate? 2013-08-12T17:24:51 yeah, basic 2013-08-12T17:25:12 sec, I'll actually go through them all 2013-08-12T17:25:44 Here is a more recent vocabularly list I made... when I look over this one, I think I might remember one or two... 屏風 豪華 貸切 祈願 一括り 疫病 施す 末裔 子孫 挽肉 硫酸 殺人課 活かる 発端 免疫 艶々 囲碁 盆栽 米俵 陶器 磁器 魚介類 灯篭 案山子 座敷 提灯 三味線 青磁 化粧 渋い 清楚 扇子 蔵 鞠 仏間 般若 痩女 姥 翁 武悪 青武 2013-08-12T17:25:45 悪 猩々 名簿 俄か 整髪 懐石料理 習字 達磨 柳葉琴 信憑性 類稀 鉄格子 祭壇 設ける 文献 脇差 留守電 急遽 手入れ 緩和 祈祷 補佐役 駆使 失墜 貶める 衰退 託す 全貌 範疇 祓い 2013-08-12T17:28:14 後者はかなり難しいよな 2013-08-12T17:30:12 俺には三味線と習字しか見覚えがないみたい 2013-08-12T17:32:05 いや、よく見れば、扇子と設けると託すも見た 2013-08-12T17:32:10 まあいい 2013-08-12T17:33:47 tosiaki: wtf is 足元 2013-08-12T17:33:58 I should reconginze 2013-08-12T17:34:01 but I don't 2013-08-12T17:34:03 fuu 2013-08-12T17:34:04 ashimoto 2013-08-12T17:34:13 foot somehing 2013-08-12T17:34:26 *** K5 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T17:34:30 .j ashimoto 2013-08-12T17:34:32 4 hits: 1 足元 | 2 足下 | 3 足許 | 4 足もと 2013-08-12T17:34:33 君の元 would be "beside/to you" so... 2013-08-12T17:34:34 1 2013-08-12T17:34:36 足元 [あしもと] /(n,adj-no) (1) at one's feet/underfoot/one's step (as in "watch your step")/(n) (2) gait/pace/step/(pn) (3) you/thou/(P)/ 2013-08-12T17:34:54 ah 2013-08-12T17:36:58 It also surprised me one time when I was actually able to find a phrase as long as 物言えば唇寒し秋の風 in the dictionary. 2013-08-12T17:37:52 expressions and idioms happen to be in dictionaries, yeah 2013-08-12T17:39:10 .jr . && .{15,} 2013-08-12T17:39:13 2343 hits: 1 コーポレートアイデンティティー | 2 沖縄開発庁長官 (おきなわかいはつちょうちょうかん) | 3 国際協力事業団 (こくさいきょうりょくじぎょうだん) | 4 東京証券取引所 (とうきょうしょうけんとりひきじょ) | 5 北海道開発庁長官 (ほっかいどうかいはつちょうちょうかん) [.n for next] 2013-08-12T17:39:16 Hello. I'm trying to run thcrap with th14 full. Is there anything supposed to be translated already? 2013-08-12T17:39:21 .jr . && .{18,} 2013-08-12T17:39:23 692 hits: 1 北海道開発庁長官 (ほっかいどうかいはつちょうちょうかん) | 2 朝鮮民主主義人民共和国 (ちょうせんみんしゅしゅぎじんみんきょうわこく) | 3 育児休業基本給付金 (いくじきゅうぎょうきほんきゅうふきん) | 4 異型大動脈縮窄症 (いけいだいどうみゃくしゅくさくしょう) [.n for next] 2013-08-12T17:39:42 pivco: no, unfortunately not. should be in a couple of days. 2013-08-12T17:39:51 ok ty 2013-08-12T17:42:09 I was also able to find an extended version of my earlier vocabularly list... I probably added words in here and there and put them beside "similar words" on the list as I saw fit: 2013-08-12T17:42:10 . 2013-08-12T17:42:11 . 2013-08-12T17:42:14 配達 大した 本物 軽い 気軽 上司 偉い 身内 舌打ち 頭打ち 打つ 連打 酔い 作成 成長 成功 招待 任せる 住む 狂う 風邪 矢印 所為 思考 立場 牛肉 不法 無法 舌 足元 足下 足る 迎える 仰る 処理 無音 恥ずかしい 放置 設置 置く 着る 着地 抱く 抱える 新居 食器 失敗 失敬 終結 悪者 格子 続行 犯人 微笑 有 2013-08-12T17:42:15 効 説明 釈明 解釈 解説 解せる 小説 伝説 解明 紹介 見事 良い訳 偽札 度胸 胸部 触る 触れる 解決 決まる 決める 辺 常識 意識 意思 意志 超絶 気絶 申し訳 屋外 受け取る 強調 調べる 調査 脱ぐ 突っ込む 越す 見張る 運ぶ 位置 過言 過去 主役 頑丈 基本 一般 一周 要望 絶望 示す 表す 表示 指示 屋台 冷え 2013-08-12T17:42:16 る 冷める 冷やす 店 確か 確認 確保 寒気 埋める 射る 飽きる 諦める 先程 程 最早 発言 帰宅 合法 命令 指令 可哀想 追放 運ぶ 攻め 落とす 我慢 立派 立地 店 顔面 絵画 及び 扱い 発言 裏切り 裏口 甘い 素晴らしい 結束 難い 日常 異常 通常 非常 常 移す 出発 口調 会場 悪化 対応 応対 反対 反省 省略 射 2013-08-12T17:42:21 撃 直撃 感謝 機会 出掛ける 掛ける 一切 折角 着替える 切り替え 価値 処置 肌 頼む 遠ざかる 復興 屋台 性格 格好 支度 日程 代理 配役 役目 水没 詰む 宇宙 市民 逆 相談 登場 登録 登記 感涙 信頼 怒り 恐怖 回答 回避 修正 粗筋 林檎 蝋燭 珈琲 悪戯 此の 其の 迄 来週 芸術 苦手 勝手 真似 反省 一周 形態 2013-08-12T17:42:26 携帯 態度 然し 鼠 蛙 茸 減る 完璧 売る 煩い 勿論 きもい ← 気持ち悪い 若者 マジかよ 皆様 感情 情緒 内緒 貼る 張る 頂戴 差す 姿 構成 族 柵 批判 文句 祭り 欠く 無視 視界 帰宅 水着 支給 毛 寝室 寝屋 図書室 近所 気軽 神経 包む 静か 冷静 科学 暴走 出勤 苦しい 苦労 刑事 翻訳 丁寧語 現れる 腕 未 2013-08-12T17:42:31 来 薬 絶妙 要 投げる 投稿 役立つ 鍵 逆転 暗号 嵐 算数 音量 逝く 謝る 蓋 実況 巡る 虱 住宅 出来事 足跡 詳しい 万年 表 痛い 野郎 顔面 未だ 又 致します 余る 余裕 余計 選択 茶飯事 零人 覚える 嫌悪 表紙 原因 受難 ご存じ 母音 応援 現場 基づく 音源 辛い 幸 幸い 幸せ 北斗七星 短い 借りる 絶叫 達成 2013-08-12T17:42:38 親指 人差し指 中指 薬指 小指 現存 状況 実況 周到 校長 金庫 入手 箪笥 床 共同 是非 勝負 今朝 覚める 揺れる 焦がす 流れる 隠す 痛い 刺す 真っ先 真っ直ぐ 絡む 校舎 重要 仮面 回収 個人 切ない 構う 全然 吐息 更衣室 箪笥 あり得ない 嘘 鬱 驚く 隠れる 急 梯子 小声 一瞬 姑 小姑 拍手 選手 突破 勝 2013-08-12T17:42:43 負 決勝 連続 試合 隙間 根性 根こそぎ 退場 工事 妄想 比べる 拾う 生える 狂う 見栄 栄養 破壊 激しい 加える 手際 参考 回収 視覚 末期 魂 投げる 遺跡 同盟 予告 報告 告知 味わい 恐らく 触る 改造 宝石 直進 参照 色紙 真面目 女神 囲む 参る 退治 収まる 旅立つ 敗れる 調整 早食い 目星 好都合 結論 直 2013-08-12T17:42:48 感 扇 素早く 葉隠れ 崩壊 素材 光学 相応しい 正統 付近 修行 教授 師範 便秘 棒読み 一歳 ユッケ 失格 芸人 女装 暗黒 暗闇 臭い 歯 歯科 計算 耐性 開始 移動 椅子 地図 2013-08-12T17:43:01 * albel727 lold at きもい ← 気持ち悪い and マジかよ 2013-08-12T17:43:02 you should use pastebin or something for that many lines 2013-08-12T17:43:06 cd 2013-08-12T17:43:09 xd* 2013-08-12T17:43:35 lots of familiar words 2013-08-12T17:44:13 *** sannaj has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T17:46:33 I think I know now what I did with those last four words on the list... I was looking for words that still sound very similar in modern mandarin. 2013-08-12T17:48:34 .k 椅子 2013-08-12T17:48:35 椅 ▪ Rad: 75(木) ▪ SKIP: 1-4-8 ▪ Strokes: 12 ▪ Grade: Jōyō-2 ▪ Freq: 2245 ▪ GSF: 1666 ▪ Parts: 口大木一亅 ▪ yi3 yi1 ▪ 의(eui) ▪ イ ▪ {chair} 2013-08-12T17:48:35 子 ▪ Rad: 39(子) ▪ SKIP: 4-3-1, 4-2-1 ▪ Strokes: 3 ▪ Grade: Kyōiku-1 ▪ JLPT: 4 ▪ Freq: 72 ▪ GSF: 162 ▪ Parts: 子 ▪ zi3 zi2 zi5 ▪ 자(ja) ▪ シ ス ツ ▪ こ -こ ね ▪ Nanori: い き ぎ く け ねっ ▪ {child} {sign of the rat} {11PM-1AM} {first sign of Chinese zodiac} 2013-08-12T17:48:40 http://moe.tengu.pw/d2.png 2013-08-12T17:48:41 .k 地図 2013-08-12T17:48:43 Type: image/png; Size: 175.11KiB; Updated: 32s ago (Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:48:11 GMT) 2013-08-12T17:48:44 地 ▪ Rad: 32(土) ▪ SKIP: 1-3-3 ▪ Strokes: 6 ▪ Grade: Kyōiku-2 ▪ JLPT: 3 ▪ Freq: 40 ▪ GSF: 129 ▪ Parts: 土也 ▪ di4 de5 ▪ 지(ji) ▪ チ ジ ▪ Nanori: どま ▪ {ground} {earth} 2013-08-12T17:48:44 図 ▪ Rad: 31(囗) ▪ SKIP: 3-3-4 ▪ Strokes: 7 ▪ Grade: Kyōiku-2 ▪ JLPT: 3 ▪ Freq: 539 ▪ GSF: 152 ▪ Parts: 斗囗 ▪ tu2 ▪ 도(do) ▪ ズ ト ▪ え はか.る ▪ Nanori: づ ▪ {map} {drawing} {plan} {unexpected} {accidentally} 2013-08-12T17:48:50 Got halway the second line 2013-08-12T17:49:01 but it's about that rate to the end 2013-08-12T17:52:11 .j taru 2013-08-12T17:52:12 3 hits: 1 樽 | 2 足る | 3 たる 2013-08-12T17:52:13 2 2013-08-12T17:52:15 足る [たる] /(v5r,vi) to be sufficient/to be enough/to be worthy of/(P)/ 2013-08-12T17:53:10 As in 速さが足りない which I saw several times. 2013-08-12T17:53:31 ah 2013-08-12T17:53:36 tarinai is often used, yeah 2013-08-12T17:53:43 I think it even has an entry in EDICT 2013-08-12T17:53:46 .j tarinai 2013-08-12T17:53:46 足りない [たりない] /(adj-i) (1) insufficient/not enough/lacking/(2) dim-witted/slow/one brick short of a full load/ 2013-08-12T17:54:42 .k 足元 2013-08-12T17:54:42 足 ▪ Rad: 157(足⻊) ▪ SKIP: 2-3-4 ▪ Strokes: 7 ▪ Grade: Kyōiku-1 ▪ JLPT: 4 ▪ Freq: 343 ▪ GSF: 251 ▪ Parts: 口足 ▪ zu2 ju4 ▪ 족(jog) 주(ju) ▪ ソク ▪ あし た.りる た.る た.す ▪ Nanori: あ あす おす たらし ▪ {leg} {foot} {be sufficient} {counter for pairs of footwear} 2013-08-12T17:54:42 元 ▪ Rad: 10(儿) ▪ SKIP: 2-1-3 ▪ Strokes: 4 ▪ Grade: Kyōiku-2 ▪ JLPT: 3 ▪ Freq: 192 ▪ GSF: 138 ▪ Parts: 二儿元 ▪ yuan2 ▪ 원(weon) ▪ ゲン ガン ▪ もと ▪ Nanori: ちか はじめ はる ゆき よし ▪ {beginning} {former time} {origin} 2013-08-12T17:54:59 also yeah, 触れる <- potential conjugation of 触る。 2013-08-12T17:55:04 .j 足元 2013-08-12T17:55:05 足元 [あしもと] /(n,adj-no) (1) at one's feet/underfoot/one's step (as in "watch your step")/(n) (2) gait/pace/step/(pn) (3) you/thou/(P)/ 2013-08-12T17:55:14 oh yeah 2013-08-12T17:55:17 I forgot already 2013-08-12T17:55:20 :D 2013-08-12T17:55:30 .j 足下 2013-08-12T17:55:32 2 hits: 1 あしもと | 2 そっか 2013-08-12T17:55:35 When I see that, I never know if it is さわれる or ふれる but I always guess that it is ふれる 2013-08-12T17:55:54 1 2013-08-12T17:55:54 足下 [あしもと] /(n,adj-no) (1) at one's feet/underfoot/one's step (as in "watch your step")/(n) (2) gait/pace/step/(pn) (3) you/thou/(P)/ 2013-08-12T17:56:19 how does this differ 2013-08-12T17:56:24 ah yeah, you can read it as fureru too. 2013-08-12T17:56:28 .j 触れる 2013-08-12T17:56:29 触れる [ふれる] /(v1,vi) (1) to touch/to feel/(2) to experience/to come in contact with/to be emotionally moved (by)/to perceive/(3) to touch on a subject/to allude to/(4) to be in conflict (with)/to violate (law, copyright, etc.)/(5) to proclaim/(P)/ 2013-08-12T17:59:12 When I saw the article http://news.nicovideo.jp/watch/nw325356 I was a bit surprised about some mistakes that I didn't think were so common. But I did learn about 真逆 and the true meanings of 爆笑 and 確信犯 which I mostly see used with its "misunderstood meaning" rather than its true meaning. 2013-08-12T17:59:14 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ほとんどの人が勘違いしていそうなこと | ニコニコニュース (at news.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T17:59:18 Title: ほとんどの人が勘違いしていそうなこと | ニコニコニュース 2013-08-12T17:59:46 *** Flandre has left #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:01:28 hmmh 2013-08-12T18:01:59 Damnit, I think I need to go play something before my head explodes 2013-08-12T18:02:00 good question. well, fureru is more like lightly touch, whereas sawaru is like what you'd do with tits. 2013-08-12T18:02:01 * albel727 runs 2013-08-12T18:02:04 been studying a lot today 2013-08-12T18:02:13 haha 2013-08-12T18:02:16 yeah well 2013-08-12T18:02:23 I just remember it from anime 2013-08-12T18:02:26 because negative 2013-08-12T18:03:03 触らない iirc 2013-08-12T18:03:19 *** CuddlyZombie has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:03:34 or 2013-08-12T18:03:41 触ったない 2013-08-12T18:03:44 fuck 2013-08-12T18:03:50 well, the tits part was a joke, but I dunno how to express more prolonged or more hard contact. 2013-08-12T18:04:02 Yeah but it's true 2013-08-12T18:04:05 at least 2013-08-12T18:04:12 That's why I remember it 2013-08-12T18:04:14 :D 2013-08-12T18:04:15 well, typically girls in anime scream something like 触らないで 2013-08-12T18:04:31 or 2013-08-12T18:04:40 触ってください 2013-08-12T18:04:43 xd 2013-08-12T18:04:52 that would be the wrong kind of anime 2013-08-12T18:04:54 >_> 2013-08-12T18:04:55 :3 2013-08-12T18:05:48 *** K5 has left #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:06:13 Sorry for interruption. Somehow I don't see any effects after starting the Games with the thcrap link. Do you have any idea about the problem? 2013-08-12T18:06:26 same problem here 2013-08-12T18:06:40 It worked on none of my games 2013-08-12T18:06:44 :< 2013-08-12T18:06:53 jupp. Same as with me. 2013-08-12T18:08:29 Ditto here 2013-08-12T18:08:49 It took me a while for me to remember words like 乳房 乳首 etc. I guess that you might not hear such words often even in that kind of anime, because these words are not said much; you'd mostly find these in written novels. 2013-08-12T18:09:45 heh? I'm pretty sure I've heard 乳首 in anime 2013-08-12T18:10:15 and not in that kind of anime, even 2013-08-12T18:10:22 same here 2013-08-12T18:10:41 Now that I looked those up 2013-08-12T18:10:52 I remember hearing 乳首 2013-08-12T18:11:02 I see. I suppose it depends on how much words are spoken, then. 2013-08-12T18:11:19 and stuff like 貧乳 is exclusively for not-that-kind-of-anime, lol 2013-08-12T18:12:22 *** K5 has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:12:27 What about 秘裂? A word here and there I see in written form. 2013-08-12T18:12:27 speaking of that 2013-08-12T18:12:30 .jr 乳 2013-08-12T18:12:32 214 hits: 1 乳 | 2 乳首 | 3 乳房 | 4 乳児 | 5 母乳 | 6 乳母車 | 7 搾乳 | 8 牛乳 | 9 乳幼児 | 10 乳製品 | 11 鍾乳洞 | 12 乳 [.n for next] 2013-08-12T18:13:12 hmm, I don't think I've heard that one 2013-08-12T18:13:19 .n 2013-08-12T18:13:19 13 乳母 | 14 乳母 | 15 乳母 | 16 乳母 | 17 添乳 | 18 添え乳 | 19 乳母 | 20 乳母 | 21 乳汁 | 22 乳毛 | 23 胸乳 | 24 胸乳 [.n for next] 2013-08-12T18:13:26 23 2013-08-12T18:13:27 胸乳 [むなち] /(n) breasts/ 2013-08-12T18:13:38 .n 2013-08-12T18:13:40 25 乳母 | 26 奇乳 | 27 鬼乳 | 28 下乳 | 29 下乳 | 30 垂乳根 | 31 足乳根 | 32 垂乳女 | 33 足乳女 | 34 乳色 | 35 乳牛 | 36 乳草 [.n for next] 2013-08-12T18:13:46 27 2013-08-12T18:13:47 鬼乳 [きにゅう] /(n) witch's milk (milk secreted by some neonates)/ 2013-08-12T18:14:29 Or 秘所 2013-08-12T18:14:51 *** CuddlyZombie has quit IRC 2013-08-12T18:15:11 hmm, I guess I have to admit I'm bad at vulgar grammar, lol 2013-08-12T18:15:14 .e genitalia 2013-08-12T18:15:14 18 hits: 1 豆 (まめ) | 2 窪 (くぼ) | 3 凹 (くぼ) | 4 恥部 (ちぶ) | 5 菽 (まめ) | 6 荳 (まめ) | 7 秘苑 (ひえん) | 8 秘所 (ひしょ) | 9 オナホ | 10 陰門 (いんもん) | 11 外陰部 (がいいんぶ) | 12 玉門 (ぎょくもん) [.n for next] 2013-08-12T18:15:19 .n 2013-08-12T18:15:20 13 女性器 (じょせいき) | 14 男性器 (だんせいき) | 15 オナホール | 16 生殖器 (せいしょくき) | 17 副生殖器 (ふくせいしょくき) | 18 秘裂 (ひれつ) 2013-08-12T18:15:31 lol, 女性器 2013-08-12T18:15:47 oh well 2013-08-12T18:15:52 秘所 and 秘裂 are definitely the two most common I have seen. 2013-08-12T18:16:48 I suppose... http://yotogi.com/yotogi/?mode=read&key=1263058032&log=18 for example. In fact, they pretty much appear for all such texts on that site... 2013-08-12T18:16:50 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: wʉx : CT_[Z (at yotogi.com) 2013-08-12T18:16:53 Title: 『因果応報』 作者: ライサンダーZ 2013-08-12T18:17:11 Okay I spy a 秘部 too. 2013-08-12T18:18:51 After learning enough words not to look up stuff every sentence, I learned much of my further vocabulary through reading online texts... like those found on yotogi, I guess. 2013-08-12T18:19:07 hmm 2013-08-12T18:19:13 I might try doing that 2013-08-12T18:19:52 lol, how come I've never read touhou ero doujins 2013-08-12T18:19:59 wow 2013-08-12T18:20:10 thats kinda an achievement already 2013-08-12T18:20:51 I also tried reading texts before when I did need to look up words every sentence, but it wasn't very effective because with a whole lot of words all the time, I wasn't able to retain much of it. 2013-08-12T18:21:22 I've spent many days on exhentai 2013-08-12T18:21:33 reading touhou doujins 2013-08-12T18:21:46 tosiaki: any recommendations then? 2013-08-12T18:21:52 Yotogi.com 2013-08-12T18:22:53 For example: http://yotogi.com/yotogi/?mode=read&key=1199499176&log=2 2013-08-12T18:22:54 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: wؘR̂悤ɗD@x : (at yotogi.com) 2013-08-12T18:22:54 Yeah well, I mean, I think I'd need to look up words every sentence 2013-08-12T18:22:57 Title: 『木漏れ日のように優しい魔法』 作者: 鎌鼬 2013-08-12T18:23:01 Oh 2013-08-12T18:23:38 Well when you only need to look up a word or two every paragraph, that might be a good time. 2013-08-12T18:23:54 Any more, and it might not be effective. 2013-08-12T18:24:11 mmh, how did u get to that point 2013-08-12T18:24:37 Nicovideo comments... I saw repeated words and put them into jisho.org... (but in retrospect, jisho.org might not be best because they have some mistakes). 2013-08-12T18:24:54 If I were to make a recommendation now, it would be weblio 2013-08-12T18:25:36 lol, nicovideo comments. 2013-08-12T18:25:49 For example, the word つむ is not accurate for jisho.org. People use it all the time on Nicovideo comments, when some gets stuck and have to reset the game, etc., a lot of comments go つんだ. But the jisho.org entry is inaccurate for this. 2013-08-12T18:26:30 I'd probably have bored me into oblivion. although I guess there's no better source for short but self-contained sentences. 2013-08-12T18:26:43 Yes, I learned mostly of my Japanese at the beginning mostly through nicovideo comments, and then a Japanese-language RPG game where I learned words like 攻撃　防御　回避　etc. 2013-08-12T18:27:34 It'd depend on one's interest in the video... for example, I mostly watched 東方GTA and シム東方 videos and some others, where I was able to understand most things, but some comments seemed interesting, so I put them in the dictionary. 2013-08-12T18:28:08 oh yeah 2013-08-12T18:28:11 touhou gta 2013-08-12T18:28:12 And then I moved on to 実況プレイ動画 where I learned... how to listen to Japanese. But that was much later. 2013-08-12T18:28:13 jesus 2013-08-12T18:29:23 What helps with Nicovideo comments is that lots of people repeat things, and when they do, they often say the same things in different ways, like one comment in kanji, the other in kana, etc. 2013-08-12T18:29:30 lol, didn't know either 東方GTA or シム東方. I'm a failure as a touhou fan, lol 2013-08-12T18:30:48 I didn't intend to actually learn Japanese, but I kept looking through videos I found interesting on Nicovideo and kept on look up repeated comments that I thought were interesting, and started to remember things. 2013-08-12T18:32:20 When I first went there, I only knew a few of the hiragana, and almost none of the katakana, but those were picked up very quickly. Some kanji were picked up without needing to go to a dictionary, like tenn or 死 2013-08-12T18:32:29 I meant, 天 or 死 2013-08-12T18:33:08 I guess yeah 2013-08-12T18:33:11 if gaming 2013-08-12T18:33:12 Most other things I picked up through a dictionary, although some were through context. I remember some of the first words I picked up were 少し, 本当, and 本気 2013-08-12T18:35:39 what do these ppl mean with wktk 2013-08-12T18:37:04 wakuteka 2013-08-12T18:37:17 good thing there's such a thing as dic.nicovideo.jp... 2013-08-12T18:37:22 dic.nicovideo.jp/a/wktk 2013-08-12T18:37:38 ah 2013-08-12T18:37:39 lol 2013-08-12T18:39:20 Yeah I guess that from nicovideo, you might learn this conjugation that you might not learn from classes: すごい→すげえ よわい→よええ つよい→TUEE はやい→はええ おそい→おせえ etc. 2013-08-12T18:40:22 ee eee 2013-08-12T18:40:28 :D 2013-08-12T18:40:33 Gonna go to sauna 2013-08-12T18:40:38 bbl 2013-08-12T18:41:13 *** pivco has quit IRC 2013-08-12T18:45:40 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:49:28 *** BM has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:49:40 Hello? 2013-08-12T18:49:51 *** BM is now known as Guest98512 2013-08-12T18:49:56 Hello 2013-08-12T18:52:15 Sorry to botter you, but the trouble-shooting is just for bug reports and stuff or can I ask for help? 2013-08-12T18:55:16 You can ask... and be in the same predicament as I. 2013-08-12T18:56:59 Alright 2013-08-12T18:57:09 *** Spikefin has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T18:57:54 Well, basically when I run a shortcut everything seens to load nicely, but no translation is applied 2013-08-12T18:58:18 *** nurupo|away has quit IRC 2013-08-12T18:58:29 Back when the demo came out it worked alright, but after the last update this keeps happening 2013-08-12T19:00:07 I've never gotten the shortcut patches to work so i dunno. 2013-08-12T19:00:16 the guy who can fix it is asleep now. you're not the only one with this problem. we'll tell him once he's up. 2013-08-12T19:00:35 so you probably get a fix with next update or something. 2013-08-12T19:00:42 Thanks 2013-08-12T19:00:51 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:01:09 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-12T19:01:39 *** nurupo is now known as Guest50316 2013-08-12T19:03:21 What's the name of the guy who helps with this stuff? 2013-08-12T19:03:45 The sleeping one, I mean 2013-08-12T19:05:13 Nmlgc 2013-08-12T19:05:41 Thanks. 2013-08-12T19:06:29 *** Guest50316 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:08:36 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:09:35 *** CaptainJudaism has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:10:20 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:14:53 *** nurupo|away has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:18:17 *** BullshitInverted has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:18:49 Hello 2013-08-12T19:19:20 Hello 2013-08-12T19:19:33 I suppose the developer of the patcher isn't here? 2013-08-12T19:20:04 At least there's no one who can help 2013-08-12T19:20:29 Nmlgc is asleep now 2013-08-12T19:20:38 What a shame 2013-08-12T19:20:44 Yeah 2013-08-12T19:20:47 Guess I'll wait for him 2013-08-12T19:20:48 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:21:10 By the way, I was expecting far more people here on the day of the release 2013-08-12T19:21:14 So, you try the shortcuts, everything runs nicely but nothing is translated? 2013-08-12T19:21:33 Basically this is what happens to me: 2013-08-12T19:21:34 http://logs.nmlgc.net/freenode/%23thcrap/%23thcrap.2013-06-03.log 2013-08-12T19:21:38 Type: text/plain; Size: 11.55KiB; Updated: 69d 19h 23m 18s ago (Mon, 03 Jun 2013 21:58:20 GMT) 2013-08-12T19:22:15 which is strange, as previous versions of the patcher have worked fine 2013-08-12T19:22:43 I managed to play the demo just fine, back then 2013-08-12T19:22:54 Translated, I mean 2013-08-12T19:23:02 Yeah, me too 2013-08-12T19:23:52 but the problem is it doesn't connect to the server now 2013-08-12T19:25:36 I'm trying to reinstall the patch for the nth time and the downloads are working here. 2013-08-12T19:25:37 Meanwhile I'll chill here 2013-08-12T19:26:02 Maybe it's a firewall thing or something 2013-08-12T19:26:58 Wow, now that's a new error for me 2013-08-12T19:26:59 ' 2013-08-12T19:27:06 "Could not load thcrap.init" 2013-08-12T19:27:07 I doubt 4 people like you suddenly misconfigured their firewalls. maybe Nmlgc introduced a last minute bug today before falling asleep or server died under strain something. 2013-08-12T19:27:13 *or something 2013-08-12T19:27:53 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:28:04 I'm guessing it's a bug 2013-08-12T19:28:38 The address of the server seems to be working fine 2013-08-12T19:28:57 Apparently you can manually download the files from there 2013-08-12T19:31:53 *** nurupo|away has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:32:22 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:37:36 *** nurupo|away has quit IRC 2013-08-12T19:42:22 albel727: what timezone is Nmlgc in 2013-08-12T19:42:32 or if he has inconsistent sleep rhythm 2013-08-12T19:42:49 When is he gonna wake up approx. 2013-08-12T19:43:16 dunno. he went to sleep 4 hours ago, but he promised to sleep long. 2013-08-12T19:43:46 mkay 2013-08-12T19:44:11 And my summer ends today 2013-08-12T19:44:16 tomorrow schoo 2013-08-12T19:44:18 l 2013-08-12T19:44:46 my condolences. 2013-08-12T19:46:02 Ahwell 2013-08-12T19:46:53 probably going to be the same "no sleep before first-school day" thing that has happened after every holiday last year 2013-08-12T19:47:04 after many weekends too actually 2013-08-12T19:47:06 :D 2013-08-12T19:47:43 Inconsistent sleep rhythm is fine if you got nothing to stay awake for 2013-08-12T19:47:45 but 2013-08-12T19:47:55 yeah 2013-08-12T19:48:39 It is a bit derp when you actually have to wake up for something 2013-08-12T19:49:41 which happens for the most of an average person's life. 2013-08-12T19:49:56 yep 2013-08-12T19:50:47 I got a few friends for whom it doesn't matter tho 2013-08-12T19:50:59 One has been jobless for almost 2 years 2013-08-12T19:51:18 But money just happened to come from various places 2013-08-12T19:51:29 so he has been too lazy to find a new job 2013-08-12T19:51:57 fun thing is, he is still "working" there, but he just hasn't got any work from them 2013-08-12T19:52:06 IT support etc. 2013-08-12T19:52:23 When there was stuff to do it paid off well 2013-08-12T19:53:20 But it is so common choice of education that there is little to none jobs available 2013-08-12T19:54:00 If you are lucky or know the right people you can get a well paying job which requires almost no effort tho 2013-08-12T19:55:01 But yeah, sometimes he comes to IRC at 5pm "good morning" or 2AM or 10AM 2013-08-12T19:55:19 There isn't any pattern to it 2013-08-12T19:55:22 :D 2013-08-12T19:55:54 Even I couldn't have it like that because living at home still 2013-08-12T19:56:24 Someone is bound to get butthurt and come wake me up 2013-08-12T19:57:37 *** NotYoru has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:57:38 2013-08-12T19:57:48 albel727: u got steam? 2013-08-12T19:58:01 sakuya a has like semi malice cannon going on? 2013-08-12T19:58:14 wut wut 2013-08-12T19:58:47 i randomly do like 2x as much damage by having some sort of perfect timing on releasing the knives 2013-08-12T19:59:17 *** Sahuaro has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T19:59:58 oh (haven't tried playing myself yet, and not that I have played the 'normal' th games a lot anyways) 2013-08-12T20:00:03 funny thing 2013-08-12T20:00:33 I can count the hours I have played offcial danmaku touhou with my fingers 2013-08-12T20:01:06 but I got no clue how much I've listened to music, read doujinshi, played fangames etc. 2013-08-12T20:01:55 I've played 12.3 and 13.5 a bit 2013-08-12T20:02:02 not a lot of it either tho 2013-08-12T20:02:19 *** Spikefin has quit IRC 2013-08-12T20:02:46 eh, im horrible at the main series but i still enjoy messing around with them 2013-08-12T20:02:52 Speaking of music 2013-08-12T20:02:55 http://moe.tengu.pw/d4.png 2013-08-12T20:02:58 Type: image/png; Size: 53.76KiB; Updated: 16s ago (Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:02:42 GMT) 2013-08-12T20:03:07 somehow i have a replay where i shaved 4 seconds off a spellcard and now i can't replicate it 2013-08-12T20:03:14 NotYoru: well, I can't finish any of them even w/ easy 2013-08-12T20:03:31 yeah i was that was until i tried SA extra for like a week 2013-08-12T20:03:36 now i can play normal on most games 2013-08-12T20:04:20 lol 2013-08-12T20:04:36 do u play on gamepad or kb? 2013-08-12T20:04:41 I prefer gamepad 2013-08-12T20:04:51 kb, too lazy to ever set up a gamepad 2013-08-12T20:04:55 I was actually going to start to play them for real 2013-08-12T20:05:06 i actually realize whats going on with this sakuya a thing though 2013-08-12T20:05:09 I was going to make my own arcade controller 2013-08-12T20:05:11 for them 2013-08-12T20:05:16 but the shop neve replied 2013-08-12T20:05:21 so nvm then :D 2013-08-12T20:05:33 the knives are sticking and you have to unfocus and refocus at almost the same time and the explosion happens but the knives stay 2013-08-12T20:05:42 so you can just keep exploding the knives 2013-08-12T20:06:43 I found this: http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6127/t1kku.jpg 2013-08-12T20:06:46 Type: image/jpeg; Size: 127.80KiB; Updated: 729d 22h 45m 8s ago (Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:21:38 GMT) 2013-08-12T20:06:46 that's cheap 2013-08-12T20:06:56 and thought of making something like that myself 2013-08-12T20:07:23 i actually planned on playing fighting games serious at a time 2013-08-12T20:07:31 so i kinda have a hitbox that i do very little with 2013-08-12T20:07:52 its basically a stick without the stick lol, i might try playing 12.3 with it 2013-08-12T20:08:08 why not 13.5 2013-08-12T20:08:15 come netplay vs me 2013-08-12T20:08:16 now 2013-08-12T20:08:19 xd 2013-08-12T20:08:28 (I'm up for it) 2013-08-12T20:08:55 eh, i played 13.5 with a friend a few states away and the lag was crazy compared to when he was only a few miles away 2013-08-12T20:09:00 i'll try if you can host though 2013-08-12T20:10:08 *** Fairy has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:11:11 this sakuya a thing - its dumb but my hand feel like they are going to fall off doing this on kb 2013-08-12T20:12:00 *** Fairy has quit IRC 2013-08-12T20:13:01 NotYoru: I can 2013-08-12T20:13:04 Gimme a sec 2013-08-12T20:13:09 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:20:53 *** Spikefin has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:22:34 *** nurupo|away has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:27:29 NotYoru: Which version do u have of it? 2013-08-12T20:27:35 I have 1.10c 2013-08-12T20:28:24 oh 2013-08-12T20:28:31 there is 1.20 now 2013-08-12T20:28:34 gonna dl it 2013-08-12T20:28:44 http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html 2013-08-12T20:28:47 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: SYO@` Hopeless Masquerade. (at www.tasofro.net) 2013-08-12T20:28:50 Title: 東方心綺楼　〜 Hopeless Masquerade. 2013-08-12T20:29:01 K5: hi there 2013-08-12T20:29:18 oh i have 1.20 2013-08-12T20:29:28 mkay 2013-08-12T20:29:32 I'll dl it 2013-08-12T20:32:15 aand done 2013-08-12T20:33:18 *** S1lv3rw0lf has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:33:45 hi, i have some tech issues (th 14, not the patch) is there anyone who can help me? 2013-08-12T20:37:23 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-08-12T20:37:31 I'm just a normal person waiting for Nmlgc to show up, but I'll gladly help if I can 2013-08-12T20:38:51 What's wrong? Maybe it's something someone in here has seen before 2013-08-12T20:41:15 ah 2013-08-12T20:41:24 i made a fix for th14 to run on win XP 2013-08-12T20:41:46 then try to run it, but i choose a wrong resolution and "dont ask again" 2013-08-12T20:42:03 is there a way to show again the resolutions window? 2013-08-12T20:42:12 Sure, see that thconfig? 2013-08-12T20:42:23 My bad 2013-08-12T20:42:24 Custom.exe 2013-08-12T20:42:28 Just open that 2013-08-12T20:42:35 oh 2013-08-12T20:42:38 forgot to say 2013-08-12T20:43:03 for a reason i dont know. Any custom.exe (most touhou games) doesnt open 2013-08-12T20:43:12 custome.exe (english patches) does 2013-08-12T20:43:33 Maybe you lack japanese characters on your system 2013-08-12T20:43:46 Why don't you try opening it via vpatch? 2013-08-12T20:43:52 vpatch? 2013-08-12T20:43:53 Always worked for me back when I used XP 2013-08-12T20:43:57 Gah 2013-08-12T20:44:05 google says nothing 2013-08-12T20:44:06 <[Bot]MagicStone> http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/to+say+nothing+of 2013-08-12T20:44:06 xD 2013-08-12T20:44:06 I meant locale 2013-08-12T20:44:08 Japanese locale 2013-08-12T20:44:15 Title: to say nothing of - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. 2013-08-12T20:44:21 ah, i use the applocale 2013-08-12T20:44:34 Yeah, that's it 2013-08-12T20:44:36 it doesnt work 2013-08-12T20:44:48 What happens, exactly? 2013-08-12T20:45:12 double click it, mouse enters the loading animation for 1/2 sec, then nothing happens 2013-08-12T20:45:19 both, with and without applocale 2013-08-12T20:45:52 Why don't you just replace the custom with a new one? 2013-08-12T20:46:20 Or the game folder if that fails 2013-08-12T20:46:27 Save a backup of your scores and presto 2013-08-12T20:46:32 i reinstalled the game 2013-08-12T20:46:48 It worked? 2013-08-12T20:46:51 nope 2013-08-12T20:47:04 i m trying to find something on regedit 2013-08-12T20:47:10 but nothing yet 2013-08-12T20:47:13 Alright, that's tricky 2013-08-12T20:47:43 nope, i cant find any touhou related reg entry 2013-08-12T20:48:00 so i have no idea where the config options are saved 2013-08-12T20:48:13 sorry if i sound weird, english isnt my first language 2013-08-12T20:48:54 Same here, at least for me it looks pretty natural. 2013-08-12T20:49:00 But that's weird 2013-08-12T20:49:38 Reinstalling the game should've resetted the custom file 2013-08-12T20:50:23 yeah, i thougth that, but it didnt work 2013-08-12T20:50:45 i ll try installing it on a different location 2013-08-12T20:50:48 Oh, I know 2013-08-12T20:50:55 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:51:02 Looking at my folder, not even the score is saved here 2013-08-12T20:51:21 oooh right 2013-08-12T20:51:23 So the custom and scores are probably saved somewhere else in your computer 2013-08-12T20:51:28 Probably with the replays 2013-08-12T20:51:33 since th 12 they are saved somewhere around my documents 2013-08-12T20:51:51 let me check 2013-08-12T20:53:07 Yep 2013-08-12T20:53:14 th14.cfg is saved there 2013-08-12T20:53:26 Just delete it and see if it works 2013-08-12T20:53:46 *** Guest98512 is now known as BM 2013-08-12T20:53:59 found 2013-08-12T20:54:04 *** BM is now known as BM_ 2013-08-12T20:54:39 Did it work? 2013-08-12T20:55:04 yes, thank you 2013-08-12T20:55:25 You're welcome 2013-08-12T20:55:33 The patch works fine for you? 2013-08-12T20:55:53 *** Z_ has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T20:56:17 *** Z_ is now known as Guest59183 2013-08-12T20:56:18 well the demo patch worked fin 2013-08-12T20:56:19 fine* 2013-08-12T20:56:23 hmm 2013-08-12T20:56:30 For me it works on none of the games 2013-08-12T20:57:06 ah, i made a th14 exe fix for Win XP, so if someone needs it i can share it 2013-08-12T20:57:19 i ll try the patch now 2013-08-12T20:57:41 Same here, Zertap 2013-08-12T20:57:54 The patch worked for the demo back then, but now none of the games work 2013-08-12T20:57:55 S1lv3rw0lf: do u happen to have an older version of the patch 2013-08-12T20:57:56 Demo included 2013-08-12T20:58:00 ah 2013-08-12T20:58:03 oh 2013-08-12T20:58:08 derp 2013-08-12T20:58:11 i erased it a few minutes ago 2013-08-12T20:58:12 D: 2013-08-12T20:58:13 An older version of the patch doesn't work for me, at least 2013-08-12T20:58:27 mkay 2013-08-12T20:58:27 im using a recent version now 2013-08-12T20:58:46 the game loaded normally 2013-08-12T20:58:53 You click the shortcuts, everything loads and no translations? 2013-08-12T20:59:49 Damn, again that error 2013-08-12T21:00:19 Guess I'll just wait... 2013-08-12T21:00:58 yep, no translation 2013-08-12T21:01:10 no console windows either 2013-08-12T21:01:40 It's happening with a bunch of people 2013-08-12T21:02:24 Now not only there's no translation, TH14 pops this error message: "Could not load the function: thcrap_init" 2013-08-12T21:02:33 *** Guest59183 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T21:02:44 Did this happen with any of you? 2013-08-12T21:02:55 no errors for me 2013-08-12T21:03:22 This message doesn't appear for the other games, but there's no translation either 2013-08-12T21:07:32 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-12T21:07:33 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T21:08:57 *** nurupo is now known as nurupo|away 2013-08-12T21:10:04 I managed to finish that stage 5 midboss card before i even had to dodge a bullet - this is getting ridiculous 2013-08-12T21:11:05 What character did you use? 2013-08-12T21:11:24 sakuya a with the a sort of malice cannon trick i found 2013-08-12T21:12:03 I tried it and did less damage than normal, what are you doing exactly? 2013-08-12T21:12:34 Just alternating focus and unfocus or do you wait to shoot all the swords? 2013-08-12T21:12:49 get nearly the max amount of daggers on the enemy then you unfocus and refocus before your options fire the unfocused bullets 2013-08-12T21:13:21 what happens is sakuya will explode the knives but they will not disappear, so you can keep doing this to kill the enemy fast 2013-08-12T21:13:36 Oh, I see 2013-08-12T21:13:39 i got the stage 5 spellcard down in like 8.5 seconds 2013-08-12T21:13:55 im about to try on pad to see if i can do it any faster 2013-08-12T21:14:07 hmmm 2013-08-12T21:14:08 Sakuya A is the best character hands down for an regular play, it seems 2013-08-12T21:14:23 http://moe.tengu.pw/d8.png 2013-08-12T21:14:24 At least in a training to reward ratio 2013-08-12T21:14:25 Type: image/png; Size: 437.92KiB; Updated: 10s ago (Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:14:15 GMT) 2013-08-12T21:14:36 yeah, her bomb is the best - her attacks slow enemies and is the strongers 2013-08-12T21:14:40 i see no reason to not use her 2013-08-12T21:14:41 Marisa B can be pretty ridiculous with that Bomb, but you need to train a little more 2013-08-12T21:15:20 If you know when to shoot, you can even prevent key enemies from shooting their curtains with Sakuya A 2013-08-12T21:15:25 I love characters that can do this 2013-08-12T21:15:26 marisa b is more about learning where to use the bomb i think, sakuya a is just learning to do the malice cannon thing 2013-08-12T21:15:51 What's that, Zertap? 2013-08-12T21:16:00 just enabled the console 2013-08-12T21:16:15 from en.js 2013-08-12T21:16:25 Here it's even worse 2013-08-12T21:16:26 or whatever ur conf name is 2013-08-12T21:16:31 The console says it's everything fine 2013-08-12T21:16:34 But nothing works 2013-08-12T21:16:37 on th14 2013-08-12T21:16:42 it is supposed to be so 2013-08-12T21:16:53 at least for the full version 2013-08-12T21:16:59 demo should be working 2013-08-12T21:17:10 (and giving u errors) 2013-08-12T21:18:54 Supposed? But aren't there people playing it just fine? 2013-08-12T21:19:11 I mean if u have the same problem as many of us 2013-08-12T21:19:31 but th14 shouldn't be working yet 2013-08-12T21:19:34 afaik 2013-08-12T21:19:41 only the demo 2013-08-12T21:20:43 http://moe.tengu.pw/d9.png 2013-08-12T21:20:46 Type: image/png; Size: 5.78KiB; Updated: 9s ago (Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:20:36 GMT) 2013-08-12T21:21:24 Well, in here no patch works whatsover, so I guess I'm in the same boat 2013-08-12T21:24:29 *** alanhate has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T21:26:08 hi, I've got difficulties with patching DDC... at first for some reason it worked, but I used the wrong language, so I redid it to use English, but now it's not working, it's still in Japanese, and I followed the instructions carefully :c 2013-08-12T21:26:50 Do the other games work? 2013-08-12T21:27:15 There's a bunch of people in here waiting for Nmlgc to show up and help us with this issue 2013-08-12T21:27:30 alanhate: seems like something fucked up at the last minute before our mastermind went to sleep 2013-08-12T21:27:37 so we need to wait for him to wake up 2013-08-12T21:27:40 I did the other games with the wrong language, just like DDC 2013-08-12T21:28:01 oh I see 2013-08-12T21:28:07 For me it worked for the other games and the DDC demo, but after this update nothing works 2013-08-12T21:28:15 See what? 2013-08-12T21:28:34 *** NotYoru has quit IRC 2013-08-12T21:28:55 we have to wait for mastermind to wake up lol 2013-08-12T21:29:02 Oh, that 2013-08-12T21:29:13 Yeah 2013-08-12T21:29:35 His planet needs him, sooner or later he'll come 2013-08-12T21:29:42 yeah, I wanted to read the manual 2013-08-12T21:30:42 alanhate: images should be in \thcrap\thpatch\lang_en\th14 2013-08-12T21:32:23 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T21:32:56 Nmlgc: did u come to save us 2013-08-12T21:33:22 I did come to tell you that I'm still not completely awake. 2013-08-12T21:33:56 * Zertap bows before the mastermind 2013-08-12T21:34:10 there seems to be an error somewhere and patches work for none of the games 2013-08-12T21:34:27 But you probably heard that from somewhere already 2013-08-12T21:34:30 Good morning anyways 2013-08-12T21:34:36 No. Can we please, *please* talk about this tomorrow? 2013-08-12T21:34:45 It's not "morning" yet. 2013-08-12T21:34:48 oh 2013-08-12T21:34:55 yeah I'm not in a hurry 2013-08-12T21:35:09 Everyone else seems to be, though. 2013-08-12T21:35:18 :< 2013-08-12T21:35:22 People are like that 2013-08-12T21:35:26 https://bitbucket.org/nmlgc/thpatch-bugs/issue/25/th14-on-win7-doesnt-translate-at-all-into << I mean, look at this 2013-08-12T21:35:28 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: nmlgc / thpatch-bugs / issues / #25 - TH14 on Win7 doesnt translate at all into English Bitbucket (at bitbucket.org) 2013-08-12T21:35:30 Title: nmlgc / thpatch-bugs / issues / #25 - TH14 on Win7 doesn't translate at all into English — Bitbucket 2013-08-12T21:35:54 What that basically implies is "Nmlgc should have no right to sleep" 2013-08-12T21:36:41 :( 2013-08-12T21:36:42 Priority: major 2013-08-12T21:36:45 Now I see what you mean 2013-08-12T21:36:46 lol 2013-08-12T21:37:11 I thought that page was just to report errors, crashes and this kind of stuff 2013-08-12T21:37:12 (that is kinda major but meh) 2013-08-12T21:37:17 Not troubleshooting 2013-08-12T21:37:29 I've been trying to think of a polite answer. 2013-08-12T21:37:30 lol, I'm not in a hurry, I just thought I was being stupid and not doing it right 2013-08-12T21:37:55 *** CaptainJudaism has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T21:38:06 Still, it's nice to have an opportunity to "see" the creator 2013-08-12T21:38:23 Well, I'm sorry that the Twitter feed on the main page is broken, but it does say so on the top of the page. 2013-08-12T21:38:40 It also clearly says "Click here to see where we at" 2013-08-12T21:39:13 Zertap: thanks for the info, on the images :D 2013-08-12T21:40:06 well, stage 5 was hella hard 2013-08-12T21:40:23 Guys, believe me, I am most disappointed about this myself. 2013-08-12T21:40:37 ? 2013-08-12T21:40:38 ah, Nmlgc, i made some win xp fixes 2013-08-12T21:40:39 Nmlgc: tbh, you should just sleep well and asnwer after that 2013-08-12T21:41:09 for th 14 exe and custom.exe 2013-08-12T21:41:10 It's not like you are gonna be killed 2013-08-12T21:41:15 take it easy :) 2013-08-12T21:42:02 Oh well, now I'll be here for at least a few minutes, so... 2013-08-12T21:42:09 Zertap, what's the exact error. 2013-08-12T21:42:12 *? 2013-08-12T21:42:19 for all the other games than th14 2013-08-12T21:42:23 spam of missing files 2013-08-12T21:42:30 for th14 2013-08-12T21:42:31 no errors 2013-08-12T21:42:34 but no tl either 2013-08-12T21:42:58 "Spam of missing files"? That's normal. 2013-08-12T21:43:01 mkay 2013-08-12T21:43:07 well, no translations for any of them 2013-08-12T21:43:14 ... well, that's not normal. 2013-08-12T21:43:20 Can I have a log file, please? 2013-08-12T21:43:44 Oh right, not getting any translation for any of my games either. (Not counting 8 because I deleted the Japanese side of it) 2013-08-12T21:44:09 Log files... ! 2013-08-12T21:44:12 Sorry for the intrusion, just saying that I'm having the exact same issue as Zertap 2013-08-12T21:44:19 Log files... ! 2013-08-12T21:44:29 If I knew how to send you it, because I've never used an IRC before. 2013-08-12T21:44:34 *** nurupo|away is now known as nurupo 2013-08-12T21:44:35 Nmlgc: sorry-- http://pastebin.com/Q0MDb0sY 2013-08-12T21:44:36 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ShareXmod paste - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 2013-08-12T21:44:41 Title: ShareXmod paste - Pastebin.com 2013-08-12T21:45:17 changed the server to the secondary one but same result 2013-08-12T21:45:57 http://pastebin.com/a1YgPmLR 2013-08-12T21:45:58 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: TH log - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 2013-08-12T21:46:01 Title: TH log - Pastebin.com 2013-08-12T21:46:24 Double Spoiler? The only stuff that is supported right now are spell card names and the Spoiler stage dialogue. 2013-08-12T21:46:41 same for any games 2013-08-12T21:46:52 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-08-12T21:46:59 http://pastebin.com/VhU3Jdtk 2013-08-12T21:47:01 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Spam Detection For Paste ID: VhU3Jdtk (at pastebin.com) 2013-08-12T21:47:02 th13 2013-08-12T21:47:03 Title: Spam Detection For Paste ID: VhU3Jdtk 2013-08-12T21:47:16 lol 2013-08-12T21:47:40 http://pastebin.com/RUWaYVyG 2013-08-12T21:47:41 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) 2013-08-12T21:47:44 Title: - Pastebin.com 2013-08-12T21:48:56 You didn't all even go in-game, right? 2013-08-12T21:49:11 I did press new game 2013-08-12T21:49:23 character translations or anything wasn't present 2013-08-12T21:49:40 I played 14 a few times, but I also reinstalled thcrap a lot 2013-08-12T21:49:40 Because we don't support this yet... ! 2013-08-12T21:49:47 Guys, please. 2013-08-12T21:50:06 If the stuff is not translatable on thpatch.net, it's not supported. 2013-08-12T21:50:16 So... 2013-08-12T21:50:57 I guess the cofnusion originates from the previous "manual" patches translating them 2013-08-12T21:50:58 All of you, create a new configuration, add the skipgame patch, start a game, and wait for the boss dialog (shouldn't take long) 2013-08-12T21:51:19 The boss dialogue of 14 is supposed to be translated? 2013-08-12T21:51:26 No... ! 2013-08-12T21:51:31 If the stuff is not translatable on thpatch.net, it's not supported. 2013-08-12T21:51:41 Well, OK, for the trial it is. 2013-08-12T21:52:11 I'll do what you just said, sir 2013-08-12T21:52:14 Just a sec. 2013-08-12T21:52:55 funny 2013-08-12T21:53:03 Now it downloads files 2013-08-12T21:53:04 and a lot 2013-08-12T21:53:09 *** xJeePx has quit IRC 2013-08-12T21:53:24 afaik it didn't do that without skipgame 2013-08-12T21:53:33 Yeah. It's basically modified danmaku scripts for each and every stage. 2013-08-12T21:53:44 ah 2013-08-12T21:53:58 ... that actually erase the stage portions and put a 1 second timer on every spell card. 2013-08-12T21:55:19 I also think a lot of the confusion is people like me think "Translated" and see all the menus in Japanese and go "Wait wut?" I just went through all my replays and yeah, boss text is translated for the supported (Except Touhou 6 which doesn't get recognized). 2013-08-12T21:56:15 Touhou 6 was put on a hold if I'm not mistaken, right? 2013-08-12T21:56:18 yep 2013-08-12T21:56:23 boss dialog is tl'd 2013-08-12T21:56:30 Tl'd? 2013-08-12T21:56:32 :) 2013-08-12T21:56:37 Yeah, boss dialog translated in here 2013-08-12T21:56:38 At least for 13 2013-08-12T21:56:51 Sorry for disturbing you with our stupidity, Nmlgc 2013-08-12T21:57:07 Best bet is to put in a big text somewhere telling that menus aren't supported and/or check what is supported 2013-08-12T21:57:22 It's OK. This is a new concept of patching anyway, so people need to get familiar with it 2013-08-12T21:57:29 Oh yeah 2013-08-12T21:57:36 About the images from the older games and stuff 2013-08-12T21:57:59 Because we basically do this per data type, not per game. 2013-08-12T21:58:00 You guys gonna use the same ones from the existing translations or do you need to make them from scratch? 2013-08-12T21:58:10 So yes... I am a tard. I would like the menus/titles to be translated so I know what the shot types to... and stage introductions. >.> 2013-08-12T21:58:19 So, first is dialogue for all games, then spell cards for all games, then images for all games, etc. 2013-08-12T21:58:44 CaptainJudaism: Please wait 2013-08-12T21:58:46 yeah 2013-08-12T21:58:51 its ok 2013-08-12T21:58:51 ... ~3 weeks or so. 2013-08-12T21:59:04 but yeah 2013-08-12T21:59:08 Biiiig text 2013-08-12T21:59:17 ... and then EoSD, because it's a particularly hard one. 2013-08-12T21:59:48 Because it's so old? 2013-08-12T22:00:28 ... yeah, that's how you could summarize it. 2013-08-12T22:00:59 Oh yeah. 2013-08-12T22:01:01 b-but what about 1 to 5 2013-08-12T22:01:08 * Zertap cries 2013-08-12T22:01:15 I tried using skipgame patch, but I still got no English, even in boss dialog nothing happened... I think my PC doesn't want me to read a thing 2013-08-12T22:01:28 alanhate, what game? 2013-08-12T22:01:51 Zertap, after th14 is done fully, I'll work on Windows and PC-98 in parallel. 2013-08-12T22:02:07 ooh 2013-08-12T22:02:10 sounds nice 2013-08-12T22:02:25 Really? Awesome! 2013-08-12T22:03:17 Sorry for being annoying. As you said, this type of patching is new, strange, and I don't like change. 2013-08-12T22:03:40 DDC, but now I remember I just read it wasn't supported yet, so this is normal, am I right? 2013-08-12T22:03:41 This change is one for the better, though. 2013-08-12T22:04:59 Again. If you are complaining about DDC, you are implying that I have no right to sleep. And reinforcing the notion that this is a personal failure. 2013-08-12T22:05:17 just go to sleep already :D 2013-08-12T22:05:30 Yeah, about to try the sleeping thing again. 2013-08-12T22:05:31 sorry, I got confused :c 2013-08-12T22:05:32 You mean translators/programmers aren't cyborgs? 2013-08-12T22:05:34 Yeah. Consider it a personal victory that you were right all along 2013-08-12T22:05:35 Any more questions? 2013-08-12T22:05:38 Again, sorry for bottering you 2013-08-12T22:06:07 nothing of any importance 2013-08-12T22:06:41 jesus 2013-08-12T22:06:44 christ 2013-08-12T22:06:50 and if people come to ask stuff, at least we can explain it to them now 2013-08-12T22:06:53 ^ 2013-08-12T22:07:14 How do I clear stage 6 boss this is insane I can't even oh god save me 2013-08-12T22:07:15 Definitely ^ 2013-08-12T22:07:23 Also, hint, hint. 2013-08-12T22:07:44 I'll stay here to help anyone with this issue for today, if it helps 2013-08-12T22:07:45 Sandbox patch has partial th14 full version support. Until I broke down, that is 2013-08-12T22:07:58 mmh noticed 2013-08-12T22:08:03 However, it's sandbox, so it's unstable 2013-08-12T22:08:09 from twitter 2013-08-12T22:08:15 Use at your own risk, don't complain if it crashes, etc. etc. 2013-08-12T22:08:24 heh 2013-08-12T22:08:46 Bye, then. \o 2013-08-12T22:08:51 gn~ 2013-08-12T22:08:54 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-08-12T22:09:05 so 2013-08-12T22:09:06 What a nice guy 2013-08-12T22:09:21 I finally made it to stage 6 boss on lunatic 2013-08-12T22:09:39 How was that interface screw stage 5 on lunatic? 2013-08-12T22:09:44 BullshitInverted: I can't even play normal on any of these danmakus D: 2013-08-12T22:09:55 <- my nick says it all 2013-08-12T22:10:08 Now I get it. 2013-08-12T22:10:27 That stage is evil just for the fact that there's so many bullets coming from unusual directions. 2013-08-12T22:10:28 the Y-axis inversion is not that bad 2013-08-12T22:10:45 but X-axis and sudden change are impossible 2013-08-12T22:10:46 But it's so cool that I can't help but love it, even if there's so much bullshit involved 2013-08-12T22:11:10 and then there's stage 6 2013-08-12T22:11:21 With BullshitEnlarged? 2013-08-12T22:11:29 wierd 2013-08-12T22:11:33 I feel like sleeping 2013-08-12T22:11:44 tomorrow first day of school 2013-08-12T22:11:45 wtf is this 2013-08-12T22:11:56 rice has never been so horrid 2013-08-12T22:12:05 the law of the universe says I shouldn't get tired until 7am 2013-08-12T22:12:19 even the nonspells are lethal 2013-08-12T22:12:47 I usually capture one or two the first time around but now I had to use every bomb in my stock 2013-08-12T22:13:04 Definitely a step up from TD, then? 2013-08-12T22:13:16 a huge step up 2013-08-12T22:13:27 Speaking of rice http://moe.tengu.pw/dP.png 2013-08-12T22:13:28 Type: image/png; Size: 1.90MiB; Updated: 22h 37m 25s ago (Sun, 11 Aug 2013 21:36:03 GMT) 2013-08-12T22:13:46 I'd say it's up there with UFO in terms of raw difficulty 2013-08-12T22:15:18 Pretty hard, then 2013-08-12T22:15:26 *** S1lv3rw0lf has left #thcrap 2013-08-12T22:15:33 At least the gimmick is really fun this time. 2013-08-12T22:16:13 there's a guy on nicovideo 2013-08-12T22:16:14 If I screwed getting the green UFOs on Stage 6 of UFO I'd kiss goodbye pretty much any run 2013-08-12T22:16:50 who makes fake touhou levels with weird gimmicks 2013-08-12T22:17:06 seems like zun grabbed inspiration from there 2013-08-12T22:17:19 Is he related to that guy that makes fake remakes of PC-98 games? 2013-08-12T22:17:44 I don't think so. They have different accounts as far as I know 2013-08-12T22:17:59 Link or name of this guy, please? 2013-08-12T22:18:04 wait a sec 2013-08-12T22:18:47 http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/21772560 2013-08-12T22:18:48 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 作ってみたものとか ‐ ニコニコ動画:Q (at www.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T22:18:48 here 2013-08-12T22:18:51 Title: 作ってみたものとか - Niconico video Q 2013-08-12T22:19:02 Yuke is the guy's name 2013-08-12T22:19:49 So TH 14 is harder than TH 13? 2013-08-12T22:19:51 Wow, it really is translated in sandbox mode 2013-08-12T22:20:27 Played the demo and didn't have an issue up to hard mode. Been at work all day so I have yet to try the full game. 2013-08-12T22:20:35 dude 2013-08-12T22:20:46 At least for me the difficulty spike is in stage 5, but 4 can be pretty tricky until you learn the hitbox of the notes 2013-08-12T22:20:57 the first 3 stages are TD-tier easy 2013-08-12T22:21:14 At least they're fun 2013-08-12T22:21:14 Meant for bomb and life gathering 2013-08-12T22:21:25 Yoshika must be the least fun boss of every TH, for me 2013-08-12T22:21:27 And then Stages 4-6 are SA "Imma tear you a new asshole" tier? 2013-08-12T22:21:50 stage 4 is "might as well use my resources now" 2013-08-12T22:21:59 And thanks for the link there 2013-08-12T22:22:01 stage 5 is "i have no resources left" 2013-08-12T22:22:14 And Yoshika is, indeed, a very un-fun boss. I like her theme. I hate her. 2013-08-12T22:22:24 The worst part of stage 5 are those bullets coming from under you 2013-08-12T22:22:33 For an average player, that is 2013-08-12T22:22:49 You seldom have to learn to avoid this kind of stuff in normal mode 2013-08-12T22:23:06 Then it suddenly throws that 2013-08-12T22:23:23 Even without the interface screws, it's really tricky 2013-08-12T22:23:26 yeah 2013-08-12T22:23:33 there's one part on that stage 2013-08-12T22:23:53 where enemies spawn on top of the screen and spam a lot of bullets 2013-08-12T22:24:01 so you have to dodge carefully 2013-08-12T22:24:03 however 2013-08-12T22:24:26 while you are dodging, more guys appear on the bottom of the screen 2013-08-12T22:24:34 Eine sekunde... interface screws? 2013-08-12T22:24:41 so if you dont move up while dodging tightly 2013-08-12T22:24:50 you're fucked 2013-08-12T22:25:11 also, those bullets come from below 2013-08-12T22:25:14 gl 2013-08-12T22:25:26 ... Well... is the music good at least? >.> 2013-08-12T22:25:39 I like it very much 2013-08-12T22:26:06 But I'm kinda biased 'cause I generally enjoy whatever ZUN releases 2013-08-12T22:26:39 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T22:27:26 The interface screw is that the boss mirrors the screen, reversing your controls 2013-08-12T22:27:43 I really enjoyed the music, too 2013-08-12T22:27:54 Suddenly, I'm feeling rather awake and energized 2013-08-12T22:28:02 Oh yeah! Let's make some progress, shall we? 2013-08-12T22:28:08 I enjoy pretty much anything ZUN makes, but this one feels really special. 2013-08-12T22:28:09 sup Nmlgc 2013-08-12T22:28:15 Nm1gc used an enertron? 2013-08-12T22:28:24 Hope you're not hungry 2013-08-12T22:28:59 Still emphasizing "some" progress, though. Not all of the progress. 2013-08-12T22:29:22 say, Nmlgc , with all this patch issue going awry, did you play the game? 2013-08-12T22:29:23 Followed those hints from before, Nm1gc. 2013-08-12T22:29:36 I don't play Touhou games these days, at all. 2013-08-12T22:29:37 It's awesome. 2013-08-12T22:29:44 that's unfortunate 2013-08-12T22:30:09 its really fun 2013-08-12T22:31:44 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sibjHHpoB6M 2013-08-12T22:31:45 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou 14 Double Dealing Character Stage 5 Boss - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 2013-08-12T22:31:47 Title: Touhou 14 Double Dealing Character Stage 5 Boss - YouTube 2013-08-12T22:31:54 this very moment 2013-08-12T22:32:08 I shook my fist to the screen 2013-08-12T22:32:12 Damn, now that's evil 2013-08-12T22:32:30 You go all like "heh, that's easy" 2013-08-12T22:32:31 Then the game 2013-08-12T22:32:34 "lol nope" 2013-08-12T22:32:45 The issue here is at what point in time do the controls reverse 2013-08-12T22:33:12 The other times you have your time to adjust or the flip occurs at the beginning, right? 2013-08-12T22:33:23 yea 2013-08-12T22:33:29 at the beginning 2013-08-12T22:33:38 Here the game pretty much slams the bullets in your face 2013-08-12T22:33:41 but in this spellcard she does it midcard 2013-08-12T22:34:24 the interesting thing is 2013-08-12T22:34:33 you should keep moving normally 2013-08-12T22:34:34 Just asking, the controls reverse when the flip begins or after it ends? 2013-08-12T22:34:50 I'm going to test it 2013-08-12T22:34:59 My guess it's when it begins 2013-08-12T22:35:06 It looks pretty much impossible otherwhise 2013-08-12T22:35:11 Would it be "spoilers" if I ask what brings about Giga-Reimu? 2013-08-12T22:35:37 For you or the others? 2013-08-12T22:36:02 Either? I haven't touched anything past stage 3 on TH14 et. 2013-08-12T22:36:04 yet 2013-08-12T22:36:28 Well, it's a boss thing 2013-08-12T22:36:45 Or you ask the reason for that happening? 2013-08-12T22:37:18 Mostly wanted to know if it was a joke, like a lot of people thought about Mami-Reimu, or something that actually happened. 2013-08-12T22:37:31 Actually happens 2013-08-12T22:37:57 And in-game 2013-08-12T22:38:19 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T22:38:22 I guess you can draw the conclusions yourself of having a giant Reimu in a bullet hell 2013-08-12T22:38:23 Oh shit 2013-08-12T22:38:37 Skipgame bugs out and needs to be completely redone for th14 full 2013-08-12T22:39:18 ZUN changed something from the demo or it's just an unfortunate bug? 2013-08-12T22:39:29 ZUN changed something. 2013-08-12T22:39:48 Bummer =/ 2013-08-12T22:40:32 the giga reimu card is actually easy 2013-08-12T22:40:49 It's still awesome 2013-08-12T22:40:54 So, I did some testing on that midflipping card 2013-08-12T22:41:09 ZUN could have really evil with a giga character had he wanted 2013-08-12T22:41:12 and yea, you should continue moving the way you are supposed to 2013-08-12T22:41:19 I guess he saved all the bullshit to stage 5 2013-08-12T22:41:30 If the wave forces you to move left 2013-08-12T22:41:43 and then it flips the screen 2013-08-12T22:41:56 Wait 2013-08-12T22:42:06 you should still be pressing left 2013-08-12T22:42:08 *** Wakagisahime has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T22:42:09 So the controls reverse when the flip ends? 2013-08-12T22:42:37 the trick is in that card the controls are not reversed, the screen is 2013-08-12T22:42:50 so, if you press left, reimu goes left 2013-08-12T22:43:00 Oh, I see 2013-08-12T22:43:15 and if it flips, if you press left reimu goes right from your perspective, but not from hers 2013-08-12T22:43:25 So I just hold whatever would have saved me until the end and remember the original directions, right? 2013-08-12T22:43:32 so if you're dodging left, you should still pres left even if the screen flips 2013-08-12T22:43:38 In other words, just plain old interface screw 2013-08-12T22:43:39 exactly 2013-08-12T22:43:50 Because the pattern by itself is pretty tame 2013-08-12T22:43:56 Thanks for the info 2013-08-12T22:44:28 it's XY-axis flip 2013-08-12T22:44:41 not X-only or Y-only like the others 2013-08-12T22:45:00 And that's why it looks so confusing, then 2013-08-12T22:45:23 Happening mid card surely doesn't help 2013-08-12T22:46:07 Hey 2013-08-12T22:46:22 Yes? 2013-08-12T22:46:23 Did I understand correctly that the DDC english patch doesn't work yet? 2013-08-12T22:46:29 yep 2013-08-12T22:46:35 I'm working on it, Spikefin. 2013-08-12T22:46:42 alright 2013-08-12T22:46:47 sorry to butt in with technical question that has most likely been answered, but does the patcher currently work for the full version game? or has none of it been translated yet? 2013-08-12T22:46:48 Just wait warmly 2013-08-12T22:46:53 I should maybe elaborate on why this is taking so long. 2013-08-12T22:46:57 oh, oops.... 2013-08-12T22:47:16 ^this is kinda hilarious 2013-08-12T22:47:21 To put it bluntly, ZUN is not a good C programmer. 2013-08-12T22:47:34 Even so if you imagine Wakagisahime saying it 2013-08-12T22:47:47 i just realized i spelled her name wrong 2013-08-12T22:47:57 Which is rather shocking as he's doing this stuff for about 20 years now. 2013-08-12T22:48:00 Np, just wanted to know if it's a problem on my side and if i should be troubleshooting it 2013-08-12T22:48:05 And there I thought I had read it wrong all this time 2013-08-12T22:48:09 zun's not good at making appealing costumes either, but it's part of his charm... this isn't as charming 2013-08-12T22:48:12 "To put it bluntly, ZUN is not a good C programmer." 2013-08-12T22:48:33 And btw, you're doing great work ^^ 2013-08-12T22:48:36 And here I thought making games for 20 years would make you sharp. 2013-08-12T22:48:37 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-08-12T22:48:56 Full version of TH14 is not translated yet. Well you can always try the sandbox mode which has a fair bit but no whining if stuff implodes. 2013-08-12T22:48:57 well, at least he is better at c than drawing 2013-08-12T22:49:01 :D:D:D 2013-08-12T22:49:12 oh wait 2013-08-12T22:49:13 Mate. My father has been playing violin for 20 years and he still sucks. :P 2013-08-12T22:49:14 And so he still does the thing where he defines buffers of fixed width for every instance where text is rendered. 2013-08-12T22:49:17 it is his unique styke 2013-08-12T22:49:19 style* 2013-08-12T22:49:24 for real though, i'm really grateful for everyone working on this project, i just started playing toohoos about three weeks ago and i'm blown away by how awesome the fanbase is 2013-08-12T22:49:42 EVEN THOUGH the actual data formats often allow longer texts themselves. 2013-08-12T22:49:47 yeah, at first i was like "wtf is this deviantart shit" but his drawings are actually really charming 2013-08-12T22:49:48 I'm impressed by the hentai and the music the community has made. >.> 2013-08-12T22:50:05 yeah that's p much what got me to play, like everyone else 2013-08-12T22:50:17 http://thpatch.net/wiki/Patch:Sandbox#Breakpoints << Look at this section. 2013-08-12T22:50:18 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Patch development sandbox (unstable) (sandbox) - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-08-12T22:50:20 But being japanese they don't really need all that space, do them? 2013-08-12T22:50:21 Title: Patch development sandbox (unstable) (sandbox) - Touhou Patch Center 2013-08-12T22:50:40 The top 3 breakpoints are all it needs for the thpatch.net data to appear in-game. 2013-08-12T22:51:30 But I can't just make this available in base_tsa... because if *any* wiki editor inputs *any* text that goes above these rendering buffer limits, the game crashes. 2013-08-12T22:52:11 hasn't anyone told zun that? 2013-08-12T22:52:17 or does he hate us 2013-08-12T22:52:24 the second 2013-08-12T22:52:24 :< 2013-08-12T22:52:35 I see 2013-08-12T22:52:48 I mean, why should he care. He knows his limits, and it's probably large enough for the longest possible spell name in Shift-JIS he can think of. 2013-08-12T22:53:05 well why ofc 2013-08-12T22:53:20 Like I said, he doesn't need space being japanese and all 2013-08-12T22:53:31 But I mean, doesn't he care at all about people like us 2013-08-12T22:53:38 How does one fix this kind of thing, Nm1gc? 2013-08-12T22:53:55 And now compare that to, like, languages using Cyrillic alphabet, where every character uses at least 2 bytes. 2013-08-12T22:54:08 I thought stuff like that had to be hardcoded or something like that for it to work. 2013-08-12T22:54:54 The way I fix this is by identifying each and every one of these instances and hacking in a call to a custom function of thcrap which does this safely. 2013-08-12T22:55:15 Or, removing this often even unnecessary copy of an unlimited string into a limited buffer. 2013-08-12T22:55:57 Either way it's more of a manual labor thing than discovering thecnical issues? 2013-08-12T22:56:19 Yeah. Strenous manual labor, and I keep getting confused myself. 2013-08-12T22:56:52 And the best thing? I heard that the game has some gameplay bugs on its own. So ZUN will probably release a new bugfix patch shortly. 2013-08-12T22:57:01 Then, I can do this all over again. 2013-08-12T22:57:10 Oh, boy 2013-08-12T22:57:17 [16:47] Which is rather shocking as he's doing this stuff for about 20 years now. <- It often takes more than one person to debug code, too bad ZUN is solo 2013-08-12T22:57:37 Being drunk doesn't help 2013-08-12T22:57:40 haha 2013-08-12T22:57:43 I'm solo too, and I don't even work in the IT industry. 2013-08-12T22:57:46 Drunk AND married. 2013-08-12T22:58:20 The buffer limit issue is *not* something that you need to debug. It's flawed from the outset. 2013-08-12T22:58:32 (For the gameplay issues, you're right though.) 2013-08-12T22:59:10 But seriously, shouldn't zun care for things like this? 2013-08-12T22:59:27 If we all buy him a beer maybe he changes his code 2013-08-12T22:59:28 Well, he does says he makes the games mostly for himself 2013-08-12T22:59:41 And this has been there since EoSD. 2013-08-12T22:59:49 and he does release patches when stuff doesnt go as intended 2013-08-12T23:00:13 Can we kiss goodbye to that Malice Sakuya A, then? 2013-08-12T23:00:36 But he didn't fix this in the past. I mean, not even Marisa B from TH10 was fixed 2013-08-12T23:00:45 true that 2013-08-12T23:02:42 There is also other stuff, like spell card alignment assuming a fixed-width font by default. 2013-08-12T23:03:00 ohwell, I hope that by the time th15 comes out I can read japanese well enough to just play untranslated 2013-08-12T23:03:35 atm almost everyhting in th games is way too complex for m 2013-08-12T23:03:36 me 2013-08-12T23:03:41 That's not really a bug, yeah, but Windows would have functions for this too. 2013-08-12T23:04:11 (This was probably one of the causes while previous game patches had to use that, in my opinion, abomination of a font that is THSpatial) 2013-08-12T23:05:22 And here I thought it was just some kind of convention thing 2013-08-12T23:06:06 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10533447 This is a series I followed in the past, starting from when I didn't understand Japanese much at all. It's very easy to understand, which is why I was able to follow it well, and I suppose I picked up a lot of Japanese through the comments on these. 2013-08-12T23:06:07 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: 東方GTAどうでしょう SA Walker第１夜 ‐ ニコニコ動画:Q (at www.nicovideo.jp) 2013-08-12T23:06:11 Title: 東方GTAどうでしょう SA Walker第１夜 - Niconico video Q 2013-08-12T23:07:01 The funny thing is that people everywhere used to be raving about this font 2013-08-12T23:07:27 And now, we use a different one, and the number one comment is "this is such a beautiful and clean patch" 2013-08-12T23:07:54 People usually don't know what they like all that much, I suppose. 2013-08-12T23:08:26 Finally done with work. Time to get home and give TH14 a bash. Catch you later, chaps. 2013-08-12T23:09:11 *** CaptainJudaism has quit IRC 2013-08-12T23:14:14 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T23:20:01 Woo, finally identified the problem I was having before going to sleep. 2013-08-12T23:20:22 Fixing the dialogue text buffer breaks Spell Practice. 2013-08-12T23:23:29 ... because I messed up. You'll all need to update thcrap later. 2013-08-12T23:28:54 i feel so important hearing this first 2013-08-12T23:29:39 We're watching story in the making, boys 2013-08-12T23:29:39 (Technical explanation: Turns out ZUN is using a vsprintf in one place and a sprintf in another.) 2013-08-12T23:30:36 He needed to do that, at least? 2013-08-12T23:30:40 and it could be either one 2013-08-12T23:30:51 goddamnit zun, i don't even understand what that person just said, but i know you are being difficult on purpose 2013-08-12T23:31:08 I *thought* it was just vsprintf because it was in that one instance where it mattered. 2013-08-12T23:31:25 And I haven't dealt with the spell practice menu before, so... 2013-08-12T23:32:12 And the code that does it looks the same. 2013-08-12T23:32:18 (for both) 2013-08-12T23:32:48 By the way, you know japanese, Nm1gc? 2013-08-12T23:33:02 Eh, not really. 2013-08-12T23:33:13 I once learned ~300 kanji because I thought it was fun, but that's it. 2013-08-12T23:33:28 I didn't even dive into grammar. 2013-08-12T23:34:37 I see. I was just curious if ZUN would leave any comment left on his codes 2013-08-12T23:35:06 He does; but code comments aren't visible at all in the .exe. 2013-08-12T23:35:07 Considering that C uses latin characters, I wondered if you could make comments with other 2013-08-12T23:36:16 reverse engineering is something I could never imagine myself doing 2013-08-12T23:36:19 ffs 2013-08-12T23:36:30 Just looking at my own code is hard enough :D 2013-08-12T23:36:45 Not to speak about someone elses, obfuscated 2013-08-12T23:37:07 Now try to imagine the folks who have to reverse engineer stuff for hacking old games for consoles 2013-08-12T23:37:16 pls no 2013-08-12T23:37:20 My head explodes 2013-08-12T23:37:55 I remember when I download a bunch of stuff for the SNES to see what was the fuss about Fire Emblem 5 being so difficult to translate 2013-08-12T23:37:57 ZUN's code is rather clear... compared to Tasofro's layers upon layers upon layers of C++ abstraction. 2013-08-12T23:38:28 agh 2013-08-12T23:39:08 *** sannaj has quit IRC 2013-08-12T23:40:02 oh 2013-08-12T23:40:28 Nmlgc: have u played just cause 2 2013-08-12T23:40:29 Zertap: actually, compiled code it's not obfuscated, except in the case where the executable gets packed or protected with software such as Armadillo ;) 2013-08-12T23:40:36 but that is one of C++'s features 2013-08-12T23:41:02 Ruusento: ah 2013-08-12T23:41:15 No, don't really plat that kind of games... in fact, I haven't actually played anything in a while 2013-08-12T23:41:16 I thought zun's code would be 2013-08-12T23:41:21 mkay well 2013-08-12T23:41:25 Jc2 mp mod 2013-08-12T23:41:34 just an external exe 2013-08-12T23:41:47 jesus christ all that reverse engineering 2013-08-12T23:42:02 actually, you can't reverse the compiling process 2013-08-12T23:42:22 (except for .NET executables, where IL back to source it's quite trivial) 2013-08-12T23:42:41 my terminology sucks 2013-08-12T23:43:18 reverse engineering is the act of learning how something works from the finished product 2013-08-12T23:43:19 what I mean is making sense to the code of the big company 2013-08-12T23:43:33 well 2013-08-12T23:43:36 I meant that 2013-08-12T23:43:55 they have an injector 2013-08-12T23:44:08 which adds multiplayer support with all kinds of cool features 2013-08-12T23:44:38 lua stuff for an example (but lua is cool anyways) 2013-08-12T23:45:03 And some mainstream game like jc2 2013-08-12T23:45:12 injecting a DLL to a running executable makes API hooking a breeze ;) 2013-08-12T23:45:34 mmh 2013-08-12T23:45:49 there's Microsoft Detours that does most of the nasty work if you get to develop over Visual Studio 2013-08-12T23:45:52 *** S1lv3rw0lf has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T23:46:16 I got legit 2010 pro 2013-08-12T23:46:24 too bad it is gone with my old win install 2013-08-12T23:46:27 :D 2013-08-12T23:46:29 I got it for free 2013-08-12T23:46:36 from school 2013-08-12T23:46:39 just get the Express version 2013-08-12T23:46:55 I also have access to the MSDN:AA ;) 2013-08-12T23:47:04 :3 2013-08-12T23:47:17 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-08-12T23:47:48 I redeemed a Windows Server 2k8 R2 Enterprise key for my home server, and sure it's working well 2013-08-12T23:48:00 yeah well 2013-08-12T23:48:03 my key is gone 2013-08-12T23:48:05 now it became a VM over ESXi 2013-08-12T23:48:06 idk where I put it 2013-08-12T23:48:09 but, anyways 2013-08-12T23:48:12 if I ever saved it 2013-08-12T23:48:22 Zertap: if you redeemed the code in the last 2 years 2013-08-12T23:48:33 you can access the MSDN and check the receipts 2013-08-12T23:48:44 you'll find the key and the download manager 2013-08-12T23:49:02 oh 2013-08-12T23:49:19 fuck 2013-08-12T23:49:30 I got no fucking clue what account I used 2013-08-12T23:49:31 :DD 2013-08-12T23:49:35 ohwell 2013-08-12T23:49:42 not like I care that much 2013-08-12T23:49:50 just get the Express 2013-08-12T23:49:59 you just need a Live ID 2013-08-12T23:50:06 I got too many 2013-08-12T23:50:18 it's funny 2013-08-12T23:50:28 I don't even know how I've managed to get so many 2013-08-12T23:50:44 microsoft live is shit anywas 2013-08-12T23:50:47 anyways* 2013-08-12T23:51:33 and Skype is going to have the same fate 2013-08-12T23:51:58 forcing live id? 2013-08-12T23:52:01 jesus no 2013-08-12T23:52:10 *** Kaena has joined #thcrap 2013-08-12T23:52:26 oh well 2013-08-12T23:52:32 I'm surpisingly tired 2013-08-12T23:52:42 considering it is first day of school in the morning 2013-08-12T23:52:53 Usually they are the days when I'm least tired 2013-08-12T23:52:58 and get tired at 6-7am 2013-08-12T23:53:18 In other words, going to sleep 2013-08-12T23:53:25 Good night~ 2013-08-12T23:54:07 Night. 2013-08-12T23:54:55 *** linkmauve1 has quit IRC 2013-08-12T23:56:17 Good night.