2013-05-30T00:00:24 Still with OllyDbg, I assume? 2013-05-30T00:00:35 Yeah, can't hurt. 2013-05-30T00:00:39 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T00:02:16 Success! 2013-05-30T00:02:47 Except that you now basically disabled any patching to anything. 2013-05-30T00:03:19 So I have just realized. XD 2013-05-30T00:03:42 But OK, now we can at least isolate the problem. 2013-05-30T00:05:44 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13801415/Touhou/mi/debug/th14.v0.01a.js << Save this one to thpatch\base_tsa and try again 2013-05-30T00:09:15 It runs just fine with that. 2013-05-30T00:09:43 But the text boxes are too wide :) 2013-05-30T00:11:05 OK, last one. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13801415/Touhou/mi/debug/th14.v0.01a.js 2013-05-30T00:11:11 Very much so. 2013-05-30T00:11:21 If this now works, too, we've found the culprit. 2013-05-30T00:13:10 It still works just fine. 2013-05-30T00:13:33 And this, my friends, is why ZUN disables Aero compositing in his games. 2013-05-30T00:14:00 Time to move this from base_tsa to a separate patch. 2013-05-30T00:14:03 because there is no Aero on windows xp? :) 2013-05-30T00:14:27 Because it crashes for Keno. 2013-05-30T00:15:31 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa969510%28v=vs.85%29.aspx << He basically calls DwmEnableComposition(0) 2013-05-30T00:15:32 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: DwmEnableComposition function (Windows) (at msdn.microsoft.com) 2013-05-30T00:16:29 Wait, so this whole time it's been DWM that's been screwing it up? XD 2013-05-30T00:16:33 oh, he is running win7 2013-05-30T00:16:36 Yes. 2013-05-30T00:16:48 that was the other guy who wrote windows xp 2013-05-30T00:16:52 i see 2013-05-30T00:18:58 So basically, just disabling DWM before I launch the games will make everything peachy? 2013-05-30T00:19:35 The thing is, the games disable DWM themselves, and base_tsa enables it again because I thought that it doesn't matter. 2013-05-30T00:19:36 limiting number of binary hacks to minimum will make everything peacy :) 2013-05-30T00:19:52 *peachy 2013-05-30T00:19:56 I'm going to move that to a separate patch now. 2013-05-30T00:21:40 btw, what is "skipgame" option 2013-05-30T00:21:58 http://thpatch.net/wiki/Patch:Skipgame 2013-05-30T00:22:00 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Skip gameplay sections (skipgame) - Touhou Patch Center (at thpatch.net) 2013-05-30T00:25:47 Thank you so much for helping me, Nmlgc! You're amazing. 2013-05-30T00:26:18 *** PrettySuwako has quit IRC 2013-05-30T00:26:23 I feel pretty much obliged to help anyone at this point, now that I threw that rushed, beta-quality patcher out -.- 2013-05-30T00:26:59 Well, think of it this way: now you have tons of beta-testers? 2013-05-30T00:27:15 *** PrettySuwako has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T00:27:25 *** PrettySuwako has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T00:28:11 Yeah, that's the good aspect. Certainly all of that will be stable by the time the full version is released, but I can't help being worried about all the people who don't show up and report their problems here. 2013-05-30T00:31:37 I dunno. The site does a pretty decent job of directing people with problems here. 2013-05-30T00:32:35 Nmlgc, you should release the source code, to help people help you. 2013-05-30T00:32:42 Nmlgc: checking current patcher version from the net, asking users if they want to update it and doind something like executing "explorer.exe http://thpatch.net/wiki/File:Thcrap.zip" might be helpful, assuming new builds fix issues and don't introduce new ones, like the json one 2013-05-30T00:32:55 *doing 2013-05-30T00:33:54 Yeah, linkmauve1. Just decided an hour ago to move the source code pretty high on my todo list. Before doing any .anm stuff, for sure. 2013-05-30T00:34:31 Which version control do you use, btw? 2013-05-30T00:34:42 Git. 2013-05-30T00:36:39 Great, it’s integration with hg -my vcs of choice- is pretty good. 2013-05-30T00:38:17 git is good. i especially like the so called GitHub Flow. people fork your repo, make changes in the fork and send you a request for merging their changes where you can see all the changes they did, disscuss the changes, ask to fix something in their changes and finally accept merging them into your repo 2013-05-30T00:39:33 bitbucket supports it too 2013-05-30T00:40:20 What I don’t like in that workflow, at least with how it is implemented on those websites, is that it encourages centralization. 2013-05-30T00:40:47 If I want to send you a pull request when you are using github, if I don’t use github myself it’s a lot harder than it should be. 2013-05-30T00:41:22 And people using github frown upon users who don’t use it, using silly arguments like “but it’s free, you can create an account”. 2013-05-30T00:42:21 I publish my programs on my own server, I don’t give anyone else access, and I make sure they can send send me patches or bundles by email or XMPP. 2013-05-30T00:42:36 but still, how else would you discuss your changes with the developers? 2013-05-30T00:42:37 Or even by web, if they also have their own repository. 2013-05-30T00:42:58 Github didn’t invent communication, you know. :p 2013-05-30T00:43:12 :) 2013-05-30T00:44:58 I tend to prefer XMPP (or IRC, that’s about the same) because it allows a good instant feedback on patches, but email is fine too. 2013-05-30T00:45:21 Using a website for that seems pretty inefficient. 2013-05-30T00:45:42 Also, review boards are cool too, or bugtrackers. 2013-05-30T00:46:41 But too few bugtrackers allow linking a specific branch on a certain repository, or even a set of commits. 2013-05-30T00:46:52 That is, what github calls a pull request. 2013-05-30T00:50:19 *** Keno has quit IRC 2013-05-30T01:02:25 *** TheFalcon19 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T01:07:17 *** GreaseMonkey has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T01:07:18 *** GreaseMonkey has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T01:07:48 OK, Bitbucket doesn't have any kind of template for issues, but I guess this is better than nothing for now: https://bitbucket.org/nmlgc/thpatch-bugs/issues 2013-05-30T01:07:50 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: nmlgc / thpatch-bugs / issues Bitbucket (at bitbucket.org) 2013-05-30T01:08:24 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T01:08:39 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T01:11:46 linkmauve1: but it's basically the review board before merging 2013-05-30T01:12:19 * nurupo should have read to the end :) 2013-05-30T01:13:16 The basic difference is that github doesn’t acknowledge git repositories can exist outside of github. 2013-05-30T01:13:41 It’s exactly like facebook with the rest of the Internet. 2013-05-30T01:15:06 Or any other such silo where users are basically prisonners of a single system. 2013-05-30T01:15:26 IM is in a pretty sad state due to that, for example. 2013-05-30T01:18:13 do any version control hosting sites acknowledge any others exist? 2013-05-30T01:18:19 I haven't noticed any that do 2013-05-30T01:19:42 Bitbucket can import repositories from Github. 2013-05-30T01:19:45 and the thing is that you don't have to use github to do the equivalent of submitting a pull request. You can make your changes, generate a patch and email it to the author, or whatever you'd normally do 2013-05-30T01:19:59 it can import them but it can't interact with them in any other way, can it? 2013-05-30T01:20:20 Nmlgc, the term “import” alone shows they don’t want to interoperate. 2013-05-30T01:20:58 Which is pretty sad since it is based on a dvcs… 2013-05-30T01:21:37 I don't even see how they would, though 2013-05-30T01:22:18 Simply like any other git user? 2013-05-30T01:22:25 *** PrettySuwako has left #thcrap 2013-05-30T01:22:52 the repository hosting site isn't a user, though 2013-05-30T01:22:55 Well, there is issues, wiki and so on, but even basic interoperability would be good. 2013-05-30T01:23:06 undoubtedly they could communicate through their dev apis if they really wanted to 2013-05-30T01:23:09 torque, huh? What’s the difference? 2013-05-30T01:23:41 well to begin with, the site isn't sentient 2013-05-30T01:23:44 as far as I know! 2013-05-30T01:23:53 :D 2013-05-30T01:24:03 you can import and export any git repositories, just clone them and push to another hosting service. importing/exporting issues, wiki and etc. is the different story 2013-05-30T01:24:25 if you're cloning a github repo and push it to another hosting service but want to interact with the original, then ???? 2013-05-30T01:24:59 I'd love to see a reasonable argument in favor of that behavior 2013-05-30T01:25:57 i meant in terms moving from one hosting service to another 2013-05-30T01:26:13 indeed 2013-05-30T01:26:19 why would you have the same project hosted in different places anyway? :) 2013-05-30T01:26:28 I don't know! 2013-05-30T01:26:29 *in terms of 2013-05-30T01:27:00 Well, we all know how easy it is to clone a repository to another hoster, but the issue here is that when you choose an hoster you are implicitely (through that hoster quirks) forcing all your users to use the same one. 2013-05-30T01:27:12 While that could (and should) be dead simple. 2013-05-30T01:28:14 this is true, but I don't really see a way around it 2013-05-30T01:28:20 Simply allow the user to put their own repository URL in the “fork” field, or in the “pull request” field, and be done with that. 2013-05-30T01:28:35 well that would involve trusting the users too much 2013-05-30T01:28:40 linkmauve1: yes, you can set up your own remote git repository with your own wiki and bugtracker and do whatever you want to without registering 2013-05-30T01:28:41 There is even no need to give an API for that. 2013-05-30T01:29:15 huh 2013-05-30T01:29:46 nurupo, that’s what I do, but people constantly ask me to host on github instead, since github is forcing them to interact only with other github projects. 2013-05-30T01:37:32 github has a very clean, easy-to-use interface 2013-05-30T01:37:45 Nmlgc: btw, seems like the template I was talking about is a part of bugzilla's "new issue" form. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318128 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755175 2013-05-30T01:37:46 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Bug 318128 Folder panel doesn't handle FTP files on root properly (at bugs.kde.org) 2013-05-30T01:37:49 I don't think any independent packages match it at all in that regard 2013-05-30T01:38:20 cgit is passable but not the same at all 2013-05-30T01:38:53 torque, maybe, but that’s not a reason to force everyone to use it. 2013-05-30T01:39:08 no, but that's why I use it, and I imagine that's why a lot of people use it 2013-05-30T01:39:20 also, a lot of people don't have access to independent hosting 2013-05-30T01:39:34 I think it’s more because everyone use it that everyone use it. 2013-05-30T01:39:49 so it's either use an available service (in which case you might as well choose the most popular one) or don't have your code hosted at all 2013-05-30T01:40:06 it is certainly somewhat of a self-perpetuating cycle 2013-05-30T01:40:23 torque: i'm a little disappointed that they [gitbub guys] stopped providing hosting for binary files and don't allow guest/anonymous issues 2013-05-30T01:40:32 but e.g. nobody with self respect uses sourceforge nowadays because sourceforge is shitty 2013-05-30T01:40:45 so there's certainly a factor of usability and appeal 2013-05-30T01:41:00 nurupo, yeah the removal of downloads was a large disappointment 2013-05-30T01:41:21 anonymous issues would certainly be nice (definitely something bitbucket has over github) 2013-05-30T01:41:47 basically, because of the anonymous issues i suggested bitbucket over github for thcrap 2013-05-30T01:43:44 * nurupo afk 2013-05-30T02:10:43 So, I got text rendering working in PyTouhou! It’s time to clean that up and integrate it with MSG and other places where text is needed. 2013-05-30T02:44:19 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-05-30T02:48:24 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T02:48:36 *** Nazeo_Aelko_Neze has quit IRC 2013-05-30T02:49:03 *** Nazeo_Aelko_Neze has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T03:41:02 *** Speedy_Fox_IV has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T03:42:41 So yesterday I posted that was having trouble and it turned out that thcrap wasn't making the shortcuts. I just took a look at the chat logs and seems that you guys have fixed it. So I just wanted to say thanks to you guys. Thanks alot! 2013-05-30T03:45:31 *** Nazeo_Aelko_Neze has quit IRC 2013-05-30T04:16:21 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T04:25:52 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T04:25:53 *** Speedy_Fox_IV has quit IRC 2013-05-30T05:04:25 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T05:42:48 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T06:16:09 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T06:35:07 *** GreaseMonkey has quit IRC 2013-05-30T06:38:31 *** magictape_ has quit IRC 2013-05-30T06:47:08 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-05-30T07:05:09 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2013-05-30T07:22:40 *** Rifle has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T08:10:03 *** albel727 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T08:15:17 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T08:20:43 *** Gamer251 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T08:20:59 *** albel727 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T08:21:04 Does anyone know the font used in the TH13 in-game manual? 2013-05-30T08:23:14 ?? 2013-05-30T08:25:32 *** Gamer251 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T08:43:44 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T09:31:14 *** DeltaSierra4 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T09:52:39 *** Rifle has quit IRC 2013-05-30T09:58:03 *** Speedy_Fox_IV has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T10:21:16 *** Speedy_Fox_IV has quit IRC 2013-05-30T10:40:08 *** fsvgm777 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T10:40:15 *** albel727 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T10:45:29 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T10:46:15 *** albel727 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T11:00:31 *** nurupo has quit IRC 2013-05-30T11:03:17 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T11:33:23 *** Yuyuko-sama has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T11:34:09 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T11:34:14 *** Yuyuko-sama is now known as fsvgm777 2013-05-30T12:53:40 *** Demynnfire has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T13:07:20 *** tosiaki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T13:07:46 *** tosiaki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T14:38:05 *** K00pi3[9] has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T14:39:24 *** K00pi3[9] has quit IRC 2013-05-30T14:39:55 *** K00pi3[9] has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T14:45:16 *** K00pi3 has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T14:49:08 *** K00pi3[9] has quit IRC 2013-05-30T15:15:44 *** magictape has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T15:19:38 *** magictape has quit IRC 2013-05-30T15:30:12 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T16:30:30 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T16:42:54 *** natsurou has quit IRC 2013-05-30T16:57:57 *** natsurou has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T17:55:28 *** CyrusVorazan has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T18:11:47 <[Bot]MagicStone> Here's what Twitter has to say: 2013-05-30T18:11:48 <[Bot]MagicStone> oboewan -- @thpatch http://t.co/5PPaoVulhF 2013-05-30T18:33:12 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T20:03:36 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T20:06:31 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T20:06:34 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2013-05-30T21:08:37 *** CyrusVorazan has quit IRC 2013-05-30T21:11:47 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2013-05-30T21:17:24 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T21:30:07 *** K00pi3__ has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T21:34:07 *** K00pi3 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T21:48:43 *** PrettySuwako has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T21:59:35 *** K00pi3__ has quit IRC 2013-05-30T22:24:15 *** Demynnfire has quit IRC 2013-05-30T22:33:01 I'm awake. 2013-05-30T22:33:29 Seems Drunk Aya took this well. 2013-05-30T22:33:32 :) 2013-05-30T23:02:13 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi has joined #thcrap 2013-05-30T23:04:05 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2013-05-30T23:04:10 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2013-05-30T23:55:37 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2013-05-30T23:56:09 Drunk aya forgot her camera in the pub 2013-05-30T23:56:55 D: