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2013-01-16T01:21:23  <Nazeo> We are the 8~
2013-01-16T01:21:24  <Nazeo> The 8~
2013-01-16T01:21:36  <Nazeo> The eighty-eight~
2013-01-16T01:31:11  <nurupo> We are the ⑨~
2013-01-16T01:31:11  <nurupo> The ⑨~
2013-01-16T01:31:11  <nurupo> The circle-nine~
2013-01-16T01:31:11  <nurupo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbcIF78vzo4
2013-01-16T01:31:12  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: GO CIRCLE NINE • ⑨ [Touhou] ⑨ • - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-01-16T01:31:59  <nurupo> i think it's the third time i post this url here, heh
2013-01-16T01:32:34  <Nazeo> Eh?
2013-01-16T01:32:41  <Nazeo> I don't count bots!
2013-01-16T01:42:41  <nurupo> [Bot]MagicStone: he does not count you
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2013-01-16T02:34:21  <Nazeo> Hello~
2013-01-16T02:34:30  <nurupo> Nazeo: \o
2013-01-16T02:34:31  <yukiluck> hi
2013-01-16T03:00:13  <yukiluck> one question nazeo
2013-01-16T03:00:36  <Nazeo> What's up?
2013-01-16T03:00:51  <yukiluck> you got lucky trying to contact the creators of the MoF spanish patch?
2013-01-16T03:01:11  <Nazeo> I did?
2013-01-16T03:01:22  <Nazeo> Or was I able to?
2013-01-16T03:03:12  <yukiluck> im trying to contact with SiestaCephei, the main programmer
2013-01-16T03:03:38  <Nazeo> Yeah...
2013-01-16T03:03:39  <yukiluck> he made all the hard encodding
2013-01-16T03:03:44  <Nazeo> I was not successful
2013-01-16T03:03:56  <Nazeo> It made me sad
2013-01-16T03:04:03  <Nazeo> Then Shiizendame and Myrtle came late
2013-01-16T03:04:08  <Nazeo> *later in the game
2013-01-16T03:05:16  <yukiluck> if i can find him, i will let you know
2013-01-16T03:05:41  <Nazeo> Ah thank you~
2013-01-16T03:05:49  <Nazeo> It will be difficult...
2013-01-16T03:05:50  <Nazeo> I tried
2013-01-16T03:06:30  <yukiluck> he's very busy with the highschool
2013-01-16T03:06:53  <yukiluck> learning to maintain apache server
2013-01-16T03:07:01  <yukiluck> etc
2013-01-16T03:07:24  <Nazeo> Ah...
2013-01-16T03:08:10  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:08:41  <yukiluck> i start to translate SA and UFO
2013-01-16T03:08:48  <Nazeo> So what's been new with you~?
2013-01-16T03:08:53  <Nazeo> Ah, I see
2013-01-16T03:08:54  <Nazeo> Yay!
2013-01-16T03:09:01  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:09:04  <Nazeo> Speaking of which, what happened to your team?
2013-01-16T03:09:17  <yukiluck> team?
2013-01-16T03:09:24  * Nazeo nod
2013-01-16T03:09:26  <Nazeo> *nods
2013-01-16T03:09:33  <yukiluck> oh, you mean the translator team?
2013-01-16T03:09:37  * Nazeo nods
2013-01-16T03:10:02  <yukiluck> well, actually i was only the forum admin
2013-01-16T03:10:34  <Nazeo> Mm
2013-01-16T03:10:48  <yukiluck> bordermaru team was a fusion of users with the capacity to translate
2013-01-16T03:10:52  <yukiluck> and encode the patch
2013-01-16T03:11:09  <Nazeo> Do you still administrate?
2013-01-16T03:11:38  <yukiluck> Bunbunmaru foros wasn't so great, only the patch and a few magazines
2013-01-16T03:11:40  <yukiluck> no
2013-01-16T03:11:45  <yukiluck> i leave the charge
2013-01-16T03:11:50  <yukiluck> 2 years ago
2013-01-16T03:11:51  <Nazeo> Ah...
2013-01-16T03:12:02  <Nazeo> If you do not mind me asking, why is that?
2013-01-16T03:12:09  <yukiluck> well....
2013-01-16T03:12:12  <yukiluck> People
2013-01-16T03:12:15  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-16T03:12:16  <Nazeo> Ah
2013-01-16T03:12:19  <yukiluck> just people
2013-01-16T03:12:20  <Nazeo> People suck
2013-01-16T03:12:23  * Nazeo nods
2013-01-16T03:12:25  <Nazeo> I understand
2013-01-16T03:12:41  <yukiluck> at one point just simply cant stand them
2013-01-16T03:12:54  * Nazeo nods
2013-01-16T03:13:01  <Nazeo> Yup. Totally get it
2013-01-16T03:13:49  <yukiluck> specially latinamerican fans are a little childish
2013-01-16T03:13:58  <yukiluck> in the final years
2013-01-16T03:14:23  <yukiluck> not all
2013-01-16T03:14:28  <Nazeo> Ah...
2013-01-16T03:14:32  <yukiluck> but a large portion of the fandom
2013-01-16T03:14:42  <Nazeo> That sounds familiar
2013-01-16T03:14:54  <yukiluck> well, time changes
2013-01-16T03:15:03  <yukiluck> but some people not
2013-01-16T03:15:43  <yukiluck> i love touhou, but i cant handle that
2013-01-16T03:16:01  <Nazeo> Mm...
2013-01-16T03:16:12  <Nazeo> Well I also do the Touhou thing
2013-01-16T03:16:20  <Nazeo> Trying to unite the fandom and all that
2013-01-16T03:16:29  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:16:34  <yukiluck> i see your portal
2013-01-16T03:16:40  <yukiluck> it was interesting
2013-01-16T03:16:55  <yukiluck> is a nice idea
2013-01-16T03:17:30  <yukiluck> touhou portal
2013-01-16T03:17:55  * Nazeo nods
2013-01-16T03:18:02  <Nazeo> Wait which portal?
2013-01-16T03:18:09  <Nazeo> Not the outdated one...
2013-01-16T03:18:13  <Nazeo> That I need to get rid of
2013-01-16T03:18:14  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-16T03:18:25  <yukiluck> hahaha
2013-01-16T03:18:32  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:18:34  <yukiluck> that one
2013-01-16T03:18:53  <yukiluck> later, the users of the old forum reagrupated and started a new one http://bunbunmaru.freeforums.org/portal.php
2013-01-16T03:18:56  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Bunbunmaru Foros Portal (at bunbunmaru.freeforums.org)
2013-01-16T03:19:30  <Nazeo> Wow, they switched it up like 3 times
2013-01-16T03:19:45  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:20:14  <yukiluck> im not allowed to participate in this one
2013-01-16T03:20:56  <yukiluck> all i can do is watch them from outside
2013-01-16T03:21:19  <Nazeo> Why...?
2013-01-16T03:21:19  <yukiluck> im okay with that
2013-01-16T03:21:22  <Nazeo> No
2013-01-16T03:21:25  <Nazeo> I need to know why.
2013-01-16T03:21:36  <Nazeo> They are mad at you?
2013-01-16T03:21:40  <yukiluck> nop
2013-01-16T03:21:51  <yukiluck> i miself put that rule
2013-01-16T03:21:54  <yukiluck> on me
2013-01-16T03:21:57  <Nazeo> Ah...
2013-01-16T03:22:02  <Nazeo> I don't do the hate thing
2013-01-16T03:22:14  <yukiluck> i dont hate them
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2013-01-16T03:22:25  <yukiluck> in fact im happy they can go on
2013-01-16T03:22:28  <Nazeo> So people if they wish to affiliate with us MUST put aside any differences they have with people
2013-01-16T03:22:38  <yukiluck> yeah
2013-01-16T03:23:20  <yukiluck> in any case, i think is better for all that they go on without me
2013-01-16T03:23:25  <Nazeo> But... why?
2013-01-16T03:23:34  <yukiluck> you know
2013-01-16T03:23:41  <yukiluck> generational exchange
2013-01-16T03:23:56  <Nazeo> The gap
2013-01-16T03:23:57  <Nazeo> I see
2013-01-16T03:24:00  <yukiluck> yeap
2013-01-16T03:24:10  <yukiluck> im too old for that stuff
2013-01-16T03:24:14  <yukiluck> very old
2013-01-16T03:24:25  <yukiluck> :V
2013-01-16T03:24:43  <Nazeo> Heh.
2013-01-16T03:25:03  <yukiluck> young people can socialize better in forums
2013-01-16T03:25:26  <yukiluck> the old school like me just simply stand in the background
2013-01-16T03:25:37  * Nazeo smiles
2013-01-16T03:25:37  <yukiluck> and make some works
2013-01-16T03:25:48  <Nazeo> I wear both hats
2013-01-16T03:25:54  <yukiluck> hehe
2013-01-16T03:25:56  <yukiluck> well
2013-01-16T03:26:06  <yukiluck> gotta translate some lines before bed
2013-01-16T03:26:13  <yukiluck> bye guys
2013-01-16T03:26:40  <Nazeo> Okay!
2013-01-16T03:26:43  <Nazeo> Nice talking~
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2013-01-16T03:45:25  <Nazeo> Hello again!
2013-01-16T03:46:15  <yukiluck> came back just for test some android stuff
2013-01-16T03:46:48  <Nazeo> Ah
2013-01-16T03:46:49  <Nazeo> It works
2013-01-16T03:46:50  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-16T03:46:52  <yukiluck> well it works
2013-01-16T03:49:10  <yukiluck> well if you need help trying to contact bordermaru team, you can count with me
2013-01-16T03:50:03  <Nazeo> Okies, thanks for the tip~
2013-01-16T03:50:54  <yukiluck> i see you all tomorrow, bye guys
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2013-01-16T06:11:24  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> \o
2013-01-16T06:11:32  <Nmlgc> \o
2013-01-16T06:12:06  <Nmlgc> So~ I think I'm finally well rested today and can start importing that Spanish patch
2013-01-16T06:12:13  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Yay~
2013-01-16T06:13:40  <Nmlgc> I would have done so already, but they did just about everything wrong with patch distribution that can go wrong
2013-01-16T06:13:48  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oh wow.
2013-01-16T06:13:57  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Lots of extra custom stuff?
2013-01-16T06:14:03  <Nmlgc> Or, to put it in Kyori's fitting words: "When I open archive, I almost faint"
2013-01-16T06:14:10  * Nazeo_Aelko_Neze smiles
2013-01-16T06:18:54  <Nmlgc> Point 1: 26.3 MB installer. Meaning, they just basically put the complete patched data file in there. Why do they even bother with an installer, then? -.-
2013-01-16T06:19:13  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> That sounds heavy.
2013-01-16T06:19:19  <Nmlgc> Point 2: 26.3 MB installer _twice_, with BGM and spell card titles in English and Spanish, respectively.
2013-01-16T06:19:33  <Nmlgc> They wanted to have patch stacking, but didn't bother writing an engine to make it actually possible.
2013-01-16T06:20:03  <Nmlgc> Heck, if they already want to use an installer, they could have just added a single question box asking for this. No need to maintain a second data file...
2013-01-16T06:20:22  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> So it's barely finished?
2013-01-16T06:20:37  <Nmlgc> ... well, it's just... "shoddy".
2013-01-16T06:20:44  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ah...
2013-01-16T06:21:23  <Nmlgc> Point 3: leeme.txt is in... what kind of encoding is this supposed to be? "Spanish flavored UTF-16"?
2013-01-16T06:21:40  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> :x
2013-01-16T06:22:00  <Nmlgc> Point 4: "Parche en Español v0.1". I thought this was v0.9?
2013-01-16T06:22:15  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Header is wrong then?
2013-01-16T06:22:24  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Or... it really is v0.1
2013-01-16T06:22:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ?
2013-01-16T06:22:38  <Nmlgc> Everything else says v0.9.
2013-01-16T06:24:08  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> If anything else, the translation is good, yes?
2013-01-16T06:24:10  <Nmlgc> Point 5: They bundle it with a .NET Framework 4.0 web installer, and I didn't have internet connection yesterday when I tried it.
2013-01-16T06:24:17  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> :(
2013-01-16T06:24:28  <Nmlgc> Apparently, it's not even necessary.
2013-01-16T06:24:33  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Bah
2013-01-16T06:26:44  <Nmlgc> Point 6: It requires the English patch. Because... yeah, everyone has this installed anyway. I didn't.
2013-01-16T06:28:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ...
2013-01-16T06:28:32  <Nmlgc> It isn't that hard to re-patch th10's .exe file. Even the English patch does only a small number of modifications.
2013-01-16T06:28:33  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> So it's more of an add-on for the en patch
2013-01-16T06:28:46  <Nmlgc> Point 7: It overwrites the English patch without warning.
2013-01-16T06:29:04  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Okay... not an add-on
2013-01-16T06:29:30  <Nmlgc> Well... aside from all that, it really does look nice with the modded images and stuff
2013-01-16T06:30:15  <Nmlgc> So basically, that's like, every reason why thcrap exists in the first place
2013-01-16T06:30:24  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ahyup.
2013-01-16T06:30:27  <Nmlgc> Also:
2013-01-16T06:30:30  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ?
2013-01-16T06:30:35  <Nmlgc> "Hay un error en la traduccion inglesa de la carta -Forgotten Husk "Unremembered Crop"-."
2013-01-16T06:30:38  <Nmlgc> BWAHAHAHA-
2013-01-16T06:30:40  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> .....
2013-01-16T06:30:47  <Nmlgc> What did I say~
2013-01-16T06:31:14  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Wow. That's bad
2013-01-16T06:35:39  <Nmlgc> ... Ah, I just notice that it does indeed create a backup of the English data file.
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2013-01-16T07:18:16  <Nmlgc> Also, thpatch.net surpassed 20,000 visits some time ago~
2013-01-16T07:18:48  <Nazeo> \o/
2013-01-16T07:18:53  <Nazeo> Congrats!
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2013-01-16T07:45:51  <Nazeo> You're alive!
2013-01-16T07:45:53  <Nazeo> :D
2013-01-16T08:01:16  <Nmlgc> Hmm...
2013-01-16T08:01:52  <Nazeo> ?
2013-01-16T08:01:55  <Nmlgc> Seems like that patch was never properly hosted, and I don't like putting links to Mediafire everywhere
2013-01-16T08:02:05  <Nazeo> :/
2013-01-16T08:02:12  <Nmlgc> (for crediting)
2013-01-16T08:02:32  <Nazeo> I could talk to yukiluck
2013-01-16T08:02:39  <Nazeo> Have the forum peeps and stuff
2013-01-16T08:03:36  <Nmlgc> Nah, I'll just upload it myself.
2013-01-16T08:04:32  <Nazeo> Alright
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2013-01-16T11:03:37  <Nazeo> Going to sleep!
2013-01-16T11:03:39  <Nazeo> \o
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2013-01-16T14:49:04  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> \o
2013-01-16T14:49:29  <Nmlgc> >barely 4 hours of sleep
2013-01-16T14:49:43  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Eh? In which side?
2013-01-16T14:49:55  <Nmlgc> Yours?
2013-01-16T14:50:01  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ahaha~
2013-01-16T14:50:06  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Yes, that's true.
2013-01-16T14:50:16  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I'm doing your copy-pasta stuff now
2013-01-16T14:50:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> When I am not being super busy
2013-01-16T14:50:44  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ( Ergo, now )
2013-01-16T14:51:22  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Let's see if I can kill the other me...
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2013-01-16T14:52:11  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Failure
2013-01-16T14:52:14  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Aw well
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2013-01-16T14:52:41  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> There we go~
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2013-01-16T15:03:58  <Nazeo> \o
2013-01-16T15:04:01  <Nazeo> Hello Suzy~
2013-01-16T15:20:47  <Suzuran> Hi~
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2013-01-16T15:29:43  <Nazeo> Wonder who that was.
2013-01-16T15:30:01  <Suzuran> With a name like that, probably a bot
2013-01-16T15:30:44  <Nazeo> Glad it scrammed then.
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