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2013-01-14T01:14:47  <yukiluck> hello
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2013-01-14T01:15:37  <nurupo> that was fast
2013-01-14T01:16:46  <Nazeo> What.
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2013-01-14T01:50:33  <Nazeo> !
2013-01-14T01:50:34  <Ibaraki_Ibuki> he returns
2013-01-14T01:50:38  <yukiluck> hi
2013-01-14T01:50:46  <Nazeo> It's you again!
2013-01-14T01:50:49  <yukiluck> sorry
2013-01-14T01:50:51  <yukiluck> mi conection sucks
2013-01-14T01:50:52  <Nazeo> Sup~
2013-01-14T01:50:55  <Nazeo> Ah.
2013-01-14T01:50:57  <yukiluck> hello
2013-01-14T01:51:03  <yukiluck> nice to meet you
2013-01-14T01:52:17  <Nazeo> Likewise~
2013-01-14T01:52:40  <yukiluck> i like to talk about a patch
2013-01-14T01:52:45  <yukiluck> a spanish patch
2013-01-14T01:52:54  <Nazeo> Oh, sure~
2013-01-14T01:53:03  <yukiluck> time ago
2013-01-14T01:53:18  <yukiluck> i was a former admin from a old spanish th forum
2013-01-14T01:53:26  <Nazeo> Oh!
2013-01-14T01:53:31  <Nazeo> What was the forum called?
2013-01-14T01:53:56  <yukiluck> bunbunmaru foros
2013-01-14T01:55:08  <Nazeo> !
2013-01-14T01:55:16  <Nazeo> I know you then...!
2013-01-14T01:55:23  <Nazeo> What happened?
2013-01-14T01:55:38  <yukiluck> well...
2013-01-14T01:55:53  <yukiluck> people
2013-01-14T01:56:00  <yukiluck> some quits
2013-01-14T01:56:05  <yukiluck> personal issues
2013-01-14T01:56:06  <yukiluck> etc
2013-01-14T01:56:19  <Nazeo> Ah... I have heard of those before...
2013-01-14T01:56:20  <yukiluck> later the forum was reopened in another server
2013-01-14T01:56:34  <yukiluck> new management
2013-01-14T01:56:40  <yukiluck> anyway
2013-01-14T01:57:12  <yukiluck> in that time the people of the forum work in a spanish patch of MoF
2013-01-14T01:57:26  <yukiluck> finally they release a patch
2013-01-14T01:57:33  <yukiluck> 0.9 Version
2013-01-14T01:57:55  <yukiluck> they made almost everything
2013-01-14T01:58:34  <yukiluck> actually
2013-01-14T01:58:41  <Nazeo> ?
2013-01-14T01:58:46  <yukiluck> it was a intercommunity work
2013-01-14T01:58:53  <Nazeo> Ah.
2013-01-14T01:58:57  <yukiluck> with another spanish forum
2013-01-14T01:59:09  <yukiluck> border of gensokyo
2013-01-14T01:59:20  <yukiluck> that is a spanish forum
2013-01-14T01:59:22  <yukiluck> from spain
2013-01-14T01:59:34  <yukiluck> Bunbunmaru was a latinamerican forum
2013-01-14T02:00:00  <yukiluck> latinoamerican
2013-01-14T02:00:10  <Nazeo> !
2013-01-14T02:00:13  <Nazeo> I know them too
2013-01-14T02:00:35  <yukiluck> The only thing left from the translation
2013-01-14T02:00:43  <yukiluck> was the musicbox
2013-01-14T02:00:54  <Nazeo> Wait wait wait
2013-01-14T02:00:57  <Nazeo> Something happened?
2013-01-14T02:00:59  <Nazeo> :o
2013-01-14T02:01:02  <yukiluck> nop
2013-01-14T02:01:09  <Nazeo> Oh!
2013-01-14T02:01:18  <Nazeo> Only thing left to translate was the Music Box
2013-01-14T02:01:21  <Nazeo> Correct?
2013-01-14T02:01:29  <yukiluck> no translated
2013-01-14T02:01:45  <yukiluck> all translated except that
2013-01-14T02:01:48  <Nazeo> Ah.
2013-01-14T02:01:53  <Nazeo> Hmm... It would be easier if you guys just translated instead of coded... Nmlgc's Patch engine makes it so easy...
2013-01-14T02:01:54  <yukiluck> sorry
2013-01-14T02:01:59  <Nazeo> Nah~ It's cool
2013-01-14T02:02:04  <yukiluck> i speak a very poor english
2013-01-14T02:02:25  <yukiluck> its translated and its has a patch
2013-01-14T02:02:52  <yukiluck> and a installer
2013-01-14T02:03:21  <Nazeo> We can definitely use it
2013-01-14T02:03:22  <yukiluck> they were very specific with all that stuff
2013-01-14T02:03:29  <yukiluck> yup
2013-01-14T02:03:30  <Nazeo> But one thing though friend
2013-01-14T02:03:51  <yukiluck> yeah?
2013-01-14T02:03:54  <Nazeo> You know how Nmlgc's engine works right?
2013-01-14T02:04:09  <yukiluck> not sure
2013-01-14T02:04:38  <yukiluck> my colleague was the brain
2013-01-14T02:04:43  <Nazeo> Ah~ Let me explain.
2013-01-14T02:04:47  <yukiluck> sure
2013-01-14T02:05:39  <Nazeo> Nmlgc uses a patch himself. In fact, it is only one patch. And it can be used for any game, any language.
2013-01-14T02:05:54  <yukiluck> i see
2013-01-14T02:06:04  <Nazeo> It uses the translations from thpatch.net and beams them to people's comps/
2013-01-14T02:06:06  <yukiluck> its like a universal patch
2013-01-14T02:06:09  <Nazeo> Yes!
2013-01-14T02:06:12  <Nazeo> I mean.
2013-01-14T02:06:15  <yukiluck> amazing
2013-01-14T02:06:22  <Nazeo> It is~
2013-01-14T02:06:49  <Nazeo> We have patch stacking feature, so we can use that for your patch but...
2013-01-14T02:06:57  <Nazeo> That would be a lot of work on you guys
2013-01-14T02:07:00  <yukiluck> i see your point
2013-01-14T02:07:13  <Nazeo> You could just work on the wiki and do it that way
2013-01-14T02:07:18  <Nazeo> It's very easy
2013-01-14T02:07:28  <Nazeo> Plus!
2013-01-14T02:07:35  <Nazeo> It allows for attribution
2013-01-14T02:07:41  <Nazeo> So we can see who did exactly what
2013-01-14T02:07:52  <Nazeo> Thus creditz
2013-01-14T02:07:53  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-14T02:07:53  <yukiluck> i understand
2013-01-14T02:08:16  <yukiluck> so, basically all the dialogs and other stuff
2013-01-14T02:08:27  <yukiluck> we put in the patch central wiki
2013-01-14T02:08:29  <Nazeo> Mhmm~
2013-01-14T02:08:36  <yukiluck> translated?
2013-01-14T02:08:39  <Nazeo> Yup1
2013-01-14T02:08:42  <Nazeo> *!
2013-01-14T02:08:51  <Nazeo> Want me to show you how?
2013-01-14T02:09:00  <yukiluck> sure
2013-01-14T02:09:20  <yukiluck> please
2013-01-14T02:09:39  <Nazeo> Okay~. First you would need to create an account on http://thpatch.net
2013-01-14T02:09:41  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T02:09:50  <yukiluck> done
2013-01-14T02:10:07  <Nazeo> Yay~
2013-01-14T02:10:10  <Nazeo> Next... Hmm
2013-01-14T02:10:17  <Nazeo> Got a game you want to do?
2013-01-14T02:10:37  <yukiluck> MoG
2013-01-14T02:10:40  <yukiluck> MOF
2013-01-14T02:10:47  <Nazeo> Okay
2013-01-14T02:11:27  <Nazeo> You would head to http://thpatch.net/wiki/Mountain_of_Faith/Story
2013-01-14T02:11:28  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Mountain of Faith/Story - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T02:11:32  <Nazeo> Then click translate
2013-01-14T02:11:52  <Nazeo> ( After you pick a Scenario. )
2013-01-14T02:12:01  <Nazeo> Sorry, jumped the gun >.<
2013-01-14T02:12:13  <yukiluck> i see
2013-01-14T02:12:14  <yukiluck> done
2013-01-14T02:12:23  <Nazeo> Ah
2013-01-14T02:12:44  <yukiluck> i see the table
2013-01-14T02:12:50  <Nazeo> In the dropdown box, pick es
2013-01-14T02:12:51  <yukiluck> the jp dialogue
2013-01-14T02:13:00  <Nazeo> Then the button Fetch
2013-01-14T02:14:03  <yukiluck> its translated the button
2013-01-14T02:14:24  <Nazeo> ?
2013-01-14T02:14:27  <Nazeo> Sorry!
2013-01-14T02:14:33  <Nazeo> Click the button Fetch
2013-01-14T02:14:38  <Nazeo> ^_^;;
2013-01-14T02:14:57  <Nazeo> Then, double click the box you would like to translate
2013-01-14T02:15:20  <yukiluck> oh
2013-01-14T02:15:30  <yukiluck> nice
2013-01-14T02:15:33  <Nazeo> Then, fill it in with the translation and hooray!
2013-01-14T02:15:45  <yukiluck> its a wonderful tool
2013-01-14T02:15:59  <Nazeo> It really is. Nmlgc is a genius~
2013-01-14T02:16:02  <Nazeo> Now, you told me you guys already did MoF
2013-01-14T02:16:09  <yukiluck> yep
2013-01-14T02:16:24  <yukiluck> i really understand now
2013-01-14T02:16:35  <Nazeo> That's awesome~
2013-01-14T02:16:36  <yukiluck> the multilenguage patch
2013-01-14T02:16:49  <yukiluck> its a amazing project
2013-01-14T02:16:55  <Nazeo> If you could give me the patch, I could pass it along to Nmlgc and he can extract the data for it. So you don't have to retranslate
2013-01-14T02:17:04  <Nazeo> Oh!
2013-01-14T02:17:11  <yukiluck> oh that will be great
2013-01-14T02:17:12  <yukiluck> here
2013-01-14T02:17:15  <Nazeo> Could you tell me who worked on it?
2013-01-14T02:17:25  <Nazeo> So we can credit them?
2013-01-14T02:17:30  <yukiluck> http://www.mediafire.com/?f9hri9p6309mwaa
2013-01-14T02:17:31  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: [BorderMaru]ParcheCastellano_MoFv09.rar (at www.mediafire.com)
2013-01-14T02:17:31  <yukiluck> sure
2013-01-14T02:18:27  <yukiluck> Translator Japonese-Español: Tadzioizdat
2013-01-14T02:18:42  <yukiluck> Interpretes: Oskar Van Bruce and Kurokeno
2013-01-14T02:18:42  <Nazeo> Thanks~
2013-01-14T02:18:59  <Nazeo> If you have any questions or anything, feel free to ask~
2013-01-14T02:19:04  <yukiluck> image edition and installer: Siesta Cephei
2013-01-14T02:19:07  <Nazeo> And also feel welcome to stick around
2013-01-14T02:19:08  <yukiluck> sure
2013-01-14T02:19:11  <Nazeo> :p
2013-01-14T02:19:27  <yukiluck> tools edition: Oskar Van Bruce
2013-01-14T02:19:45  <yukiluck> Beta testers: Kurokeno and Riicien
2013-01-14T02:20:04  <yukiluck> lenguage supervisors: Imperial Leon and Heiji
2013-01-14T02:20:07  <yukiluck> corrections
2013-01-14T02:20:14  <yukiluck> Correctores: Heiji and Kurokeno.
2013-01-14T02:20:26  <yukiluck> it was a big project
2013-01-14T02:20:39  <Nazeo> I can see that~
2013-01-14T02:20:44  <yukiluck> well
2013-01-14T02:21:00  <yukiluck> what can i do now?
2013-01-14T02:21:12  <yukiluck> i wait
2013-01-14T02:21:21  <yukiluck> i think
2013-01-14T02:21:38  <Nazeo> Okies~
2013-01-14T02:21:40  <yukiluck> so you can see the translated patch
2013-01-14T02:22:22  <yukiluck> in any case, i come back here later in 2 days or less
2013-01-14T02:23:02  <Nazeo> Okay!
2013-01-14T02:23:07  <Nazeo> We'll be here
2013-01-14T02:23:08  <nurupo> Nazeo: what is more preferable for a translitiration of character name: Cirno (en) or Chiruno (jp)?
2013-01-14T02:23:13  <Nazeo> It was a pleasure
2013-01-14T02:23:35  <Nazeo> Good question.
2013-01-14T02:24:03  <nurupo> there is even a third verion of it in russian
2013-01-14T02:24:12  <yukiluck> in 2 days i will back and you tell me if you want that i start to translated in the wiki
2013-01-14T02:24:25  <yukiluck> or not
2013-01-14T02:24:37  <Nazeo> To yukiluck: We can use all the help we can get :o
2013-01-14T02:25:08  <yukiluck> i can start today to translate
2013-01-14T02:25:12  <yukiluck> if you want
2013-01-14T02:25:20  <Nazeo> Do you want to?
2013-01-14T02:25:25  <Nazeo> That's the real question~
2013-01-14T02:25:40  <Nazeo> To nurupo: I think I should ask Nmlgc if Romanization for jp should be made...
2013-01-14T02:26:03  <Nazeo> For Ru: Go with Ru name.
2013-01-14T02:26:18  <nurupo> er...
2013-01-14T02:26:19  <yukiluck> i like the project that you started, it will be a pleasure collaborated with you guys
2013-01-14T02:27:04  <Nazeo> Likewise!
2013-01-14T02:27:14  <Nazeo> nurupo: Did I misunderstand something?
2013-01-14T02:28:47  <nurupo> the name russians gave her is pun. Ciir in russian is cheese, so they call her Ciirna ("a" is a female ending of a noun)
2013-01-14T02:29:04  <nurupo> i thing i better stick to canon - Chiruno :)
2013-01-14T02:29:20  <nurupo> *think
2013-01-14T02:30:02  <Nazeo> Ah.
2013-01-14T02:30:05  <Nazeo> I see.
2013-01-14T02:30:11  <Nazeo> Stick to canon yes.
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2013-01-14T02:31:15  <yukiluck> nice to meet you Nazeo
2013-01-14T02:31:30  <yukiluck> i think its time for me for leaving
2013-01-14T02:32:00  <nurupo> the thing is, i can't fully stick to canon because the "Default text" column is in English. some names might be already off from canon form, just like Ciro instead of Chiruno
2013-01-14T02:32:41  <Nazeo> Okay~
2013-01-14T02:32:42  <Nazeo> \o
2013-01-14T02:32:45  <yukiluck> bye
2013-01-14T02:32:50  <Nazeo> Bai!
2013-01-14T02:32:54  <yukiluck> we see you in another time
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2013-01-14T02:33:09  <Nazeo> nurupo: In that case... stick to what feels right to you
2013-01-14T02:33:16  <nurupo> heh
2013-01-14T02:33:19  <nurupo> okay
2013-01-14T02:33:20  <Nazeo> Don't feel caged by what others think
2013-01-14T02:33:31  <Nazeo> If they have problems they can do something about it
2013-01-14T02:33:32  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-14T02:39:43  <nurupo> going to transliterate list :)
2013-01-14T02:41:02  <nurupo> btw, since it's a transliteration, i think it would be logical to have kana or romaji in the "Seafult text" column
2013-01-14T02:41:13  <nurupo> oh well
2013-01-14T02:42:04  <Nazeo> Maybe Nmlgc will do that
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2013-01-14T02:47:05  <nurupo> what is the Description field for? i entered there a description for why i transliterated Cirno that way but it isn't showning anywhere, even if i double click on Cirno to edit the transliteration after saving it
2013-01-14T02:49:09  * Nazeo checks
2013-01-14T02:54:56  <nurupo> default text for "Shiki/ru" is "Eiki" ._.
2013-01-14T02:55:11  <nurupo> I expected it to be Shiki
2013-01-14T02:56:38  <Nazeo> .-.
2013-01-14T02:57:14  <nurupo> btw, if it says "Shikieiki/ru" | "Eiki Shiki", should I transliterate it as "Shikieiki" or "Eiki Shiki"?
2013-01-14T02:57:52  <nurupo> that's kind of confusing)
2013-01-14T02:58:58  <nurupo> one is two words and reversed
2013-01-14T02:59:05  <nurupo> because there is an example of a perfect mapping: "Alice Margatroid/ru" | "Alice Margatroid"
2013-01-14T02:59:15  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-14T02:59:17  <Nazeo> Win.
2013-01-14T02:59:26  <nurupo> ?
2013-01-14T02:59:44  <Nazeo> For ru, do what makes sense to the reading, not how the mapping works
2013-01-14T02:59:45  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-14T02:59:51  <nurupo> <nurupo> btw, if it says "Shikieiki/ru" | "Eiki Shiki", should I transliterate it as "Shikieiki" or "Eiki Shiki"?
2013-01-14T02:59:56  <nurupo> =\
2013-01-14T03:00:12  <Nazeo> :(
2013-01-14T03:00:21  <Nazeo> Eeny... meent miny...
2013-01-14T03:00:25  <Nazeo> Mo
2013-01-14T03:00:30  <Nazeo> 2nd one
2013-01-14T03:27:38  <nurupo> so many familiar nicknames http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Hairball
2013-01-14T03:27:39  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Talk:Hairball - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net)
2013-01-14T03:28:07  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-14T04:29:06  <nurupo> Nmlgc: "Murasa/en" "Minamitsu" "Minamitsu". What is right: the page name or the default text?
2013-01-14T06:25:58  <nurupo> ta-dah! http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=chars&language=ru&limit=1000&task=untranslated
2013-01-14T06:25:59  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Translate - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T06:27:31  <Nazeo> \o/
2013-01-14T06:39:03  <nurupo> http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=templates&language=ru&limit=100&task=view
2013-01-14T06:39:04  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Translate - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T06:39:04  <nurupo> defeted can be in male form (used if the noun describing who was defeted is in a male form) and in female form
2013-01-14T06:39:19  <nurupo> good thing there is almost no males in the game, lol
2013-01-14T06:39:49  <nurupo> or there is actually no males... i might confuse canon and fanon
2013-01-14T06:42:45  <Nazeo> :o
2013-01-14T06:42:46  <nurupo> actually, there is the Evil Eye, Rinnoske and etc.
2013-01-14T06:42:54  <Nazeo> True...
2013-01-14T07:28:05  <nurupo> there is actually a plural form of "defeted" that should be used with Prismriver Sisters http://thpatch.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Story/Reimu's_Scenario
2013-01-14T07:28:06  <nurupo> it does say "Prismriver Sisters is defeted" :D
2013-01-14T07:28:08  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Perfect Cherry Blossom/Story/Reimu's Scenario - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T07:28:58  <Nazeo> Dead Parrot
2013-01-14T07:28:59  <Nazeo> :V
2013-01-14T07:29:49  * nurupo afk
2013-01-14T07:30:06  <nurupo> oh, btw
2013-01-14T07:30:33  <nurupo> completed http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=templates&language=ru&limit=1000&task=untranslated
2013-01-14T07:30:34  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Translate - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2013-01-14T07:30:48  * nurupo now is afk
2013-01-14T07:31:27  <Nazeo> Woot!
2013-01-14T07:31:32  <Nazeo> Good job!
2013-01-14T07:31:34  <Nazeo> :)
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2013-01-14T14:25:33  <Nmlgc> nurupo: The spelling "Cirno" actually is canon as of th09: http://thpatch.net/downloads/th09/%E3%82%AD%E3%83%A3%E3%83%A9%E8%A8%AD%E5%AE%9A.txt
2013-01-14T14:47:36  <Nmlgc> The Shikieiki confusion is because touhouwiki.net noted some months ago that "Eiki" is actually her given name.
2013-01-14T14:48:47  <Nmlgc> Firstly, I was too lazy to rewrite our existing pages, so I just changed the "Shiki" message to "Eiki" using these definitions.
2013-01-14T14:49:55  <Nmlgc> But secondly, it's also good to have this feature to retroactively and globally rename characters later on. Wouldn't be the first time that happens.
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2013-01-14T14:57:16  <Nmlgc> So yeah, you're always supposed to translate the "Default text" column, even if the label is a different one. I could have used numeric IDs for that as well, but decided against it :-)
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2013-01-14T15:14:36  <Nmlgc> OK, Prismriver Sisters now use the plural message
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