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2012-12-23T16:46:23  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> \o
2012-12-23T16:58:13  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-12-23T16:58:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I made it
2012-12-23T16:58:29  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Woot.
2012-12-23T17:01:02  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I'll... be back
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2012-12-23T18:29:57  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Network USB adapter for the win \o/
2012-12-23T18:30:37  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-12-23T18:30:50  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Anything new?
2012-12-23T18:30:55  <Nmlgc> Made a lot of progress on the PC-98 side.
2012-12-23T18:31:02  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Nice!
2012-12-23T18:31:17  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Speaking of which; should check msgs from that one guy
2012-12-23T18:33:09  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> How bad is the lag for me?
2012-12-23T18:35:29  <Nmlgc> Seems fine to me.
2012-12-23T18:42:37  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ah goody
2012-12-23T18:42:50  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I am having 30 min+ page loads in my browser
2012-12-23T18:42:52  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ugh
2012-12-23T18:47:30  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Okay. We have message replys.
2012-12-23T18:47:39  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Now... waiting for login
2012-12-23T18:53:47  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> And... loaded.
2012-12-23T18:54:05  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Okay. Moar questions.
2012-12-23T18:54:07  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Also, do you have any plans for PNG to PI converter?
2012-12-23T18:54:34  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ( btw textless vers http://www.mediafire.com/?1gvxrkjtnd54v18 )
2012-12-23T18:54:35  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: ms_selection.rar (at www.mediafire.com)
2012-12-23T18:55:14  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oh, and also said thank you for the help :P
2012-12-23T18:57:12  <Nmlgc> OK, where to start...
2012-12-23T18:57:36  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Start with the Plans for PNG to PI converter
2012-12-23T18:57:39  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ^_^
2012-12-23T18:57:52  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Then we move onto dling the textless vers
2012-12-23T18:58:01  <Nmlgc> Well, of course.
2012-12-23T18:58:05  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oop
2012-12-23T18:58:12  <Nmlgc> PI's just that big of a topic.
2012-12-23T18:58:12  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Is that a complex question?
2012-12-23T18:58:16  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ah...
2012-12-23T18:59:07  <Nmlgc> There seem to be at least 2 different versions of piread, and the version he uses expands the images to an 8-bit paletted format
2012-12-23T18:59:39  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Hmm...
2012-12-23T19:02:28  <Nmlgc> From our point of view, PI and PNG are actually pretty similar in that they support multiple bit depths
2012-12-23T19:03:13  <Nmlgc> Which means that ViX, the program he tried to convert PNG back to PI, actually does everything it's supposed to
2012-12-23T19:03:59  <Nmlgc> But since piread has already changed the image to 8-bit, the result is an 8-bit PI image, which won't work on a PC-98 that supports only 4-bit color.
2012-12-23T19:06:08  <Nmlgc> Since ViX can convert PI to PNG, too, using only this program in the process should work. Haven't tried it yet, because I noticed something else:
2012-12-23T19:06:28  <Nmlgc> th01's .grp files are actually in PI format, too.
2012-12-23T19:08:13  <Nmlgc> They only use different file signature bytes and the values in their color palette are divided by 16.
2012-12-23T19:09:27  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Rely the message then?
2012-12-23T19:09:45  <Nmlgc> Upon noticing this, I immediately turned all my attention to this game
2012-12-23T19:09:52  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oh...
2012-12-23T19:11:21  <Nmlgc> So, the "TOTLE" text is indeed in clear3.grp, but that leaves the HUD und the HARRY UP message
2012-12-23T19:11:37  <Nmlgc> Which are probably somewhere in 東方靈異.伝
2012-12-23T19:12:38  <Nmlgc> Which is not officially supported by Touhou Toolkit, but the format is basically th02's data format with a different XOR key for the data
2012-12-23T19:12:53  * Nazeo_Aelko_Neze is writing this down.
2012-12-23T19:13:20  <Nmlgc> And now I'm in the process of getting MinGW to work because Touhou Toolkit doesn't compile on Visual C++ 2010 because of some missing C99 features
2012-12-23T19:14:20  <Nmlgc> Will probably migrate my entire developing environment to this compiler when buying my new system next week, I've had enough now
2012-12-23T19:15:02  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Enough as you are leaving for the day?
2012-12-23T19:15:08  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Or enough on working on that?
2012-12-23T19:15:19  <Nmlgc> Enough of being locked into Visual Studio.
2012-12-23T19:15:30  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ah.
2012-12-23T19:16:22  <Nmlgc> I've stayed with it after working with autoconf and friends once and not enjoying it at all
2012-12-23T19:16:49  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oh noez! :o
2012-12-23T19:27:22  <Nmlgc> linkmauve1: Here's a patch for piread.cpp for .grp support if you want to include it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13801415/Touhou/mi/piread_grp.patch
2012-12-23T19:28:23  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Also the PC-98 guy (name is xJeePx vtw :U ) made a comment about the chara limit
2012-12-23T19:28:31  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> This is most likely the case. I used to edit TX2 files in WinHex, and oh boy, what a nightmare it was. Basically, in each TX2 file there are dialogue scripts for all four characters for certain stages (e.g. stage 1 dialogue scripts in _DM00.TX2). Each character's script starts at certain offset, and if you're just a byte off, something like this happens:
2012-12-23T19:28:32  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMjTIRHTtCI
2012-12-23T19:28:32  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I once tried putting in more characters than allowed in Reimu's script, and it worked, but the game crashed for other characters when I got to Sara.
2012-12-23T19:28:33  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou 05 Mystic Square - Sara became a ghost! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2012-12-23T19:34:53  <Nmlgc> Oh no. This is going to be fun. Not.
2012-12-23T19:35:06  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Due to the EoSD format?
2012-12-23T19:35:16  <Nmlgc> Exactly.
2012-12-23T19:35:44  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Noooooooooo....
2012-12-23T19:36:03  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I remember you being so unhappy doing those...
2012-12-23T19:38:10  <Nmlgc> If we're lucky, this is just a stack buffer overflow caused by a needless text copy, like th06's and th07's crash on dialog lines longer than 64 bytes
2012-12-23T19:38:35  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Hmm... we have been lucky so far,
2012-12-23T19:38:54  <Nmlgc> If we're unlucky, this is EoSD Music Room all over again
2012-12-23T19:39:15  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> How long and painful will that be?
2012-12-23T19:41:25  <Nmlgc> Time needed to beautify EoSD * Time needed to debug through Neko Project's CPU emulation
2012-12-23T19:41:44  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> = One sad Nmlgc.
2012-12-23T19:41:46  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> :(
2012-12-23T19:42:20  <Nmlgc> Still, watching his demo videos, I'm impressed how good everything else looks indeed
2012-12-23T19:45:44  <Nmlgc> Next issue would be the relocation of the harcoded .exe strings...
2012-12-23T19:47:22  <Nmlgc> ... which requires allocating more memory for the .exe, which I haven't found out how to do yet
2012-12-23T19:47:33  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> First time for everything?
2012-12-23T19:47:38  * Nazeo_Aelko_Neze could google for it
2012-12-23T19:47:44  <Nmlgc> The 16-bit DOS exe format is not as well documented as the Windows one, mind you.
2012-12-23T19:47:49  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Oh...
2012-12-23T19:47:50  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Yay.
2012-12-23T19:49:32  <Nmlgc> It might look as if there is a lot of spare space left in the .exe file. But I tried twice to relocate some text, and it twice got overwritten by run-time data
2012-12-23T19:49:43  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> >:C
2012-12-23T19:49:44  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Darn
2012-12-23T19:52:19  <Nmlgc> In any case, xJeePx shouldn't bother with it because there will be scripts
2012-12-23T19:52:28  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Roger
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