2012-11-29T01:06:09 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T02:45:55 *** Nazeo|Work has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T02:47:31 *** Nazeo|Work is now known as Nazeo 2012-11-29T02:47:54 *** Nazeo is now known as Nazeo|Work 2012-11-29T07:01:35 *** Nazeo|Work has quit IRC 2012-11-29T07:07:33 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T07:58:50 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-11-29T08:21:47 *** eeveesprit has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T08:21:54 hello 2012-11-29T08:43:24 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-11-29T09:13:04 *** eeveesprit has quit IRC 2012-11-29T10:34:28 *** fsvgm777 has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T14:40:05 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T14:47:55 *** Suzuran has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T17:50:05 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T17:50:37 \o 2012-11-29T17:50:42 \o 2012-11-29T17:51:34 So... http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Fairy_Wars/Story#Ending << What's up with that? 2012-11-29T17:51:36 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Fairy Wars/Story - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net) 2012-11-29T17:51:48 :P 2012-11-29T17:51:51 Nothing~ 2012-11-29T17:52:09 That gives everything a new dynamic though! 2012-11-29T17:52:14 Ah. I almost thought your intelligence had dropped to touhou-forum.de levels. 2012-11-29T17:52:29 Since when was it higher? 2012-11-29T17:52:30 :V 2012-11-29T17:55:33 Oh btw we have a nl editor now 2012-11-29T17:55:40 Yup, I saw. 2012-11-29T17:55:45 :D 2012-11-29T17:58:55 And I'm testing CloudFlare right now. I'm not sure how that will exactly help us though, but well, can't hurt to try. 2012-11-29T17:59:06 Yay~ 2012-11-29T17:59:14 It does something with the DNS records 2012-11-29T17:59:29 That supposedly makes it "better" 2012-11-29T17:59:32 * Nazeo shrugs 2012-11-29T18:00:18 *** Ruusento_ is now known as Ruusento 2012-11-29T18:03:52 Also, there is nothing wrong with the Fairy Wars script order on my end. 2012-11-29T18:04:32 O 2012-11-29T18:04:59 I did proofread that stuff and it exactly corresponds to the game's .msg files 2012-11-29T18:05:13 So is it appearing correctly? 2012-11-29T18:05:19 If it's different on touhouwiki.net's end, it's because they want the page to look nice. 2012-11-29T18:05:24 Ah... 2012-11-29T18:05:25 I see 2012-11-29T18:07:44 ... and besides, we've already managed to successfully convert this back to game data 3 months ago, so it has to work ^_^ 2012-11-29T18:08:33 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T18:08:36 Okies 2012-11-29T18:08:51 Nmlgc: ? 2012-11-29T18:10:02 ? 2012-11-29T18:10:14 What'd we break? 2012-11-29T18:10:30 I do not believe anything is broken... 2012-11-29T18:10:37 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-11-29T18:10:38 *** Ruusento has quit IRC 2012-11-29T18:10:38 *** nortti has quit IRC 2012-11-29T18:10:45 *** nortti has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T18:11:03 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T18:11:22 *** Ruusento has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T18:12:31 It was more about presentation Suzy 2012-11-29T18:12:52 Yeah, nothing is broken. It's just that we need the DialogTables to correspond to the in-game message boxes, while touhouwiki.net puts everything a character says into one DialogTable, disregarding the message box layout. 2012-11-29T18:13:31 Enables us to use two lines for messages that only have one in the original, and vice versa. 2012-11-29T18:15:00 I meant to ask you more about how your script maker thingy worked, but I've been too busy to get involved 2012-11-29T18:15:22 When your thing scrapes a page, does it read the mediawiki markup of the page or the formatted html output? 2012-11-29T18:15:33 The MediaWiki markup. 2012-11-29T18:16:14 (HTML would be truly insane) 2012-11-29T18:16:34 If it's reading the markup, would it be possible for us to invent some non-displaying tag that can be used to cause an arbitrary linebreak to your software while not changing the web version of things? 2012-11-29T18:16:48 That would let you break where you wanted while also letting it look nice 2012-11-29T18:18:49 At the very least we could use html comments for it. or something like that. 2012-11-29T18:19:02 Those are present in the markup and not sent to the client 2012-11-29T18:19:05 (I tested this earlier) 2012-11-29T18:20:29 All you'd have to do is cause the editors to not mess with your linebreaking tag 2012-11-29T18:21:56 That should be easy unless some aspie decides that RAAR STYLES EXTEND TO THE MARKUP AND I WILL REMOVE THESE UNNECESSARY THINGS or something stupid like that 2012-11-29T18:22:20 But in my experience someone stupid and sufficiently motivated will find a way to screw up anything despite any protection measures 2012-11-29T18:22:37 There is nothing more dangerous than an idiot with a toolbox. 2012-11-29T18:22:48 ^ 2012-11-29T18:22:57 I know that from experience :V 2012-11-29T18:23:39 * Nmlgc looks into this 2012-11-29T18:45:04 You know what. 2012-11-29T18:45:21 This "niceness" is such a small issue that I'll just try "being bold" here now. 2012-11-29T18:50:17 ... or not. Gah... 2012-11-29T18:50:36 * Nazeo paps Nmlgc 2012-11-29T18:50:43 You're fine. 2012-11-29T18:52:16 Nmlgc: The only thing I can think of that anyone might have issue with you posting is endings. 2012-11-29T18:52:43 Yes, and that's what we have our site for... 2012-11-29T18:52:49 Nmlgc: If that happens we can just make a set of non-public pages where you have to be in some specific group to edit them and have people opt-in to see them. 2012-11-29T18:52:54 Or just leave them on your site 2012-11-29T18:58:02 OK, apparently, they are quite consistent already. Two linebreaks for box changes,
for linebreaks inside boxes. 2012-11-29T19:00:03 Another thing to be considered would be simple obfuscation of text for endings. rot13 all the text. 2012-11-29T19:00:08 It'd be trivial 2012-11-29T19:00:11 No no no no no 2012-11-29T19:00:17 We're not children. 2012-11-29T19:00:33 No, WE aren't, but the people who'd whine and complain about it are. 2012-11-29T19:01:15 If it were my decision I'd just put spoiler space at the top of the page and be done with it, but it's not my decision 2012-11-29T19:02:12 The people that are going to read endings they haven't earned are going to do so anyway 2012-11-29T19:02:36 No sense screwing over the translators just to feel like you've tried to stop them 2012-11-29T19:20:57 no use 2012-11-29T19:21:04 Hm? 2012-11-29T19:21:15 unless you can hide it by only show them to certain user group 2012-11-29T19:21:21 which MEANS, if else statement 2012-11-29T19:21:35 That's arbitrary 2012-11-29T19:22:28 The point for the split was based on the principle of endings being shown. All or nothing. 2012-11-29T19:22:42 And on the principle of function vs. form. 2012-11-29T19:22:50 * Nazeo nods 2012-11-29T19:22:59 and on the other side 2012-11-29T19:23:04 Madoka first, bye F3 2012-11-29T19:23:23 And on the fact that, by focusing on a certain area, we can do the multilingual stuff in a better way 2012-11-29T19:23:45 No repetitiveness 2012-11-29T19:24:01 http://thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Central:FAQ#So_why_didn.27t_you_cooperate_with_them_in_the_first_place.3F << And it's not like I haven't written this already. 2012-11-29T19:24:02 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Touhou Patch Central:FAQ - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net) 2012-11-29T19:24:41 suzuran 2012-11-29T19:24:46 ko down? 2012-11-29T19:25:10 Ah, yes, I've noticed that, too. There seems to be some encoding-related bug. 2012-11-29T19:25:42 no, all those datas in ko lost 2012-11-29T19:25:55 Yeah, ko got whacked 2012-11-29T19:25:59 I'll explain in a minute 2012-11-29T19:26:02 so YAY no nid update high score 2012-11-29T19:26:03 :< 2012-11-29T19:26:04 I'm at work and I'm busy 2012-11-29T19:26:08 Kay. 2012-11-29T19:26:17 DeathSierra4 will be sad 2012-11-29T19:26:20 ... 2012-11-29T19:26:21 now high score back to en, zh and fr 2012-11-29T19:26:22 *Delta 2012-11-29T19:29:56 Yes thank god DialogTable/Header needs no parameters 2012-11-29T19:30:05 This means I can stuff the file assignment right in there 2012-11-29T19:30:11 \o/ 2012-11-29T19:30:24 I wouldn't have had the balls to create an empty dummy template with "thcrap" in its name 2012-11-29T19:31:18 so dialogtable no good is it? 2012-11-29T19:31:26 No no it's fine 2012-11-29T19:31:40 Also, props for {{Spell Card Info}} 2012-11-29T19:31:55 We can use that for our cause without changing anything on any page. 2012-11-29T19:32:02 I been thinking of how to implement dialogtable for long time 2012-11-29T19:32:22 Why? We've already done that ^_^ 2012-11-29T19:32:30 spell card info, thanks to different version, I have to merge that, before LUA 2012-11-29T19:32:44 Oh that thing 2012-11-29T19:32:53 Sima was messing with that on my wiki... 2012-11-29T19:33:20 I'm the one who done those template, in touhouwiki.net 2012-11-29T19:34:00 Hmm 2012-11-29T19:34:31 I recall Rukaroa doing a little bit too 2012-11-29T19:34:32 :V 2012-11-29T19:35:31 iamp param 2012-11-29T19:35:56 *** Sosso has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T19:37:26 \o 2012-11-29T19:37:29 Hello Sosso~ 2012-11-29T19:37:35 *sigh* 2012-11-29T19:37:36 http://en.touhouwiki.net/index.php?title=Embodiment_of_Scarlet_Devil%2FStory%2FReimu%27s_Scenario&diff=278843&oldid=277244 2012-11-29T19:37:37 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Difference between revisions of "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil/Story/Reimu's Scenario" - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net) 2012-11-29T19:37:43 hello ^^ 2012-11-29T19:37:46 18 records 2012-11-29T19:38:00 1 month and a few weeks not updating high scores 2012-11-29T19:38:23 Ah... 2012-11-29T19:39:51 I hope everyone is happy now. 2012-11-29T19:39:58 I am not. 2012-11-29T19:40:07 ... 2012-11-29T19:40:16 * Nazeo sighs 2012-11-29T19:40:19 OK, I'm back 2012-11-29T19:40:30 Sorry about the delay 2012-11-29T19:40:38 It's understandable 2012-11-29T19:40:53 Nmlgc: What are you unhappy about? 2012-11-29T19:41:06 Let me be honest here. 2012-11-29T19:41:21 I do not want to keep touhouwiki.net on life support regarding these translations. 2012-11-29T19:41:37 life support? 2012-11-29T19:42:17 If this project turns out successful, the translators will come to _us_, not to touhouwiki.net 2012-11-29T19:42:37 Look, I'm not here as touhouwiki's representative to try to force you to decide one way or another. I'm here just because I want to have some idea what is going on. 2012-11-29T19:43:53 I really don't mind who does what where. It's kinda annoying if it gets all spread out and disoriented, but I can deal with it 2012-11-29T19:44:25 nobody represent touhouwiki.net 2012-11-29T19:44:33 * Nazeo coughs 2012-11-29T19:44:43 It'd be nice if everything is in one place, but that's primarily for reasons of convenience, and it keeps everyone communicating so these little pocket cliques don't form as easily 2012-11-29T19:44:44 Not anymore anyway 2012-11-29T19:45:09 User count or page count or whatever doesn't equal e-penis size, at least not for me. 2012-11-29T19:45:31 The only reason I really care about touhouwiki's usage statistics is because it decides when I have to upgrade. 2012-11-29T19:45:37 I don't view it as a score or anything. 2012-11-29T19:45:51 Someone else might, but if so they are doing it wrong. 2012-11-29T19:47:08 If you can't use touhouwiki for your translation work and you have to run your own, then that's just how it is. 2012-11-29T19:47:21 I don't mind, and neither should anyone else. 2012-11-29T19:48:05 That said, I really don't see why you should be forced to pay to host a wiki and deal with spammers and all the other hoops to jump through just for this. I'm sure that if we want to there's some common middle ground we can find where everyone goes away happy. 2012-11-29T19:48:24 This is not a battle or a competition, it's just finding which way to best get things done. 2012-11-29T19:50:29 so Suzuran 2012-11-29T19:50:36 can I announce the ko situation in fb? 2012-11-29T19:50:37 The only thing I know for certain is that ZUN is watching us now; If we can somehow not make asses of ourselves, we might have a shot at convincing him to at least semi-officially support translations. 2012-11-29T19:50:43 Oh right 2012-11-29T19:50:45 As for KO 2012-11-29T19:50:51 It's not "lost" at least not yet. 2012-11-29T19:51:00 sql still remain 2012-11-29T19:51:01 Last time we upgraded mediawiki it ate the KO database table. 2012-11-29T19:51:02 is it? 2012-11-29T19:51:09 I restored it from a backup, and it worked. 2012-11-29T19:51:18 This time something broke inside mediawiki 2012-11-29T19:51:27 K and Momiji are trying to figure it out. 2012-11-29T19:51:36 I have a backup of KO from before the upgrade 2012-11-29T19:51:47 Once the issue is found and solved the pages should be restored. 2012-11-29T19:52:03 so I wrote: Currently Korean Touhouwiki is malfunctioning, however the data is still secured, so please be patient for Korean Touhouwiki to be restored 2012-11-29T19:52:13 It's annoying for me too because right now every time someone accesses KO it generates an alert in my IDS and emails me 2012-11-29T19:52:20 so I have a few hundred emails a day from it 2012-11-29T19:52:29 Make a filter 2012-11-29T19:52:32 temporary shut down ko? 2012-11-29T19:52:46 If I shut it down it complicates debugging it 2012-11-29T19:52:56 hmm... 2012-11-29T19:52:59 It's a minor annoyance 2012-11-29T19:53:05 is the announcement ok? 2012-11-29T19:53:10 Yeah, that announcement is fine 2012-11-29T19:53:33 The only thing that might be lost is edits done between Sunday and the day the upgrade happened 2012-11-29T19:53:46 but the edit rate on KO was really low, so I expect that's very little or nothing at all. 2012-11-29T19:54:09 I have something that may be truly terrible to suggest but... 2012-11-29T19:54:20 Once we can migrate from mysql to postgresql things will be a lot easier 2012-11-29T19:54:33 Why not just manually re-create the database and export the pages? 2012-11-29T19:54:40 Sure it'll be a lot of work.... 2012-11-29T19:54:41 worry about ko high score 2012-11-29T19:54:46 Nazeo: Loses the edits 2012-11-29T19:54:52 Ah... yes 2012-11-29T19:55:02 Like making a new language just becomes branching the config and copying a couple tables 2012-11-29T19:55:14 Keep that portion and hope for the best? 2012-11-29T19:55:15 instead of the headache it is now 2012-11-29T19:55:30 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-11-29T19:55:38 Nazeo: The other risk is if we don't find the underlying bug it might happen again on the next upgrade 2012-11-29T19:55:46 Good point. 2012-11-29T19:55:49 Th7 Rm B E,Th8 Rm H,Al H,Yy H,RmYk L,Th11 Rm A,Th12 Ma A L,Th128 Rt B1 N,C1 N,Ex,Th13 Ym E,H,Rm N,H,Ex & Sa Ex's record updated http://tiny.cc/pjnj9 #touhouwiki <- too long for twitter :( 2012-11-29T19:55:51 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: High scores - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at tiny.cc) 2012-11-29T19:55:54 It's already happened twice 2012-11-29T19:56:03 suspect the bug is within the databases 2012-11-29T19:56:04 To the same wiki? 2012-11-29T19:56:07 Yes 2012-11-29T19:56:11 look at the file sharing interwiki bug 2012-11-29T19:56:12 Korea both times 2012-11-29T19:56:41 even though the file didn't used on certain page, but the file indicated that the page used it 2012-11-29T19:56:53 What about phpversion? 2012-11-29T19:57:04 this has been happened since the transfer from wikia to current domain 2012-11-29T19:57:43 I wonder... 2012-11-29T19:57:44 KyoriAsh: That's probably related to the oddball way Bell set this up 2012-11-29T19:58:09 Nazeo: We're running Zend Server, php is fine. 2012-11-29T19:58:22 Not LAMP 2012-11-29T19:58:23 Kay 2012-11-29T19:58:32 if somehow the file thing solved 2012-11-29T19:58:34 If other wikis have had similar difficulties... then the bug is... intentional? 2012-11-29T19:58:41 It's LAMZ 2012-11-29T19:58:41 then ko might not be able to suffer this bug 2012-11-29T19:58:46 moving to LAPZ when able 2012-11-29T19:59:22 east asian code is hard to handle :) 2012-11-29T20:00:32 Well, it's all supposed to be UTF-8 internally 2012-11-29T20:01:08 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T20:05:32 Kinda iike this situation Suzy? -> http://edgeofperspective.net/wiki/Makarov_Kageki 2012-11-29T20:05:33 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Makarov Kageki - Touhou Edge of Perspective - A Touhou Roleplay (at edgeofperspective.net) 2012-11-29T20:06:06 Nazeo: No 2012-11-29T20:06:11 hmm 2012-11-29T20:06:13 Kay 2012-11-29T20:06:26 Nazeo: The first bug ate all the page names and replaced every non-English character with an ASCII ? 2012-11-29T20:06:41 The second bug destroyed the page_info (or page_props?) table 2012-11-29T20:07:07 That's odd 2012-11-29T20:08:07 ... 2012-11-29T20:08:15 I am very sure you used REPAIR TABLE ... 2012-11-29T20:09:27 Then again, you see it as a MediaWiki problem 2012-11-29T20:16:11 KyoriAsh: So that message, is that an actual twitter message or did your cat step on your keyboard? ^_^ 2012-11-29T20:16:34 fb message 2012-11-29T20:16:44 we don't have "OFFICIAL" touhouwiki twitter account yet 2012-11-29T20:16:50 Sefam should help you. 2012-11-29T20:16:51 :/ 2012-11-29T20:17:02 unless someone provide twitter's "e-mail" to register 2012-11-29T20:17:28 That's not much of an issue 2012-11-29T20:17:43 what? "touhouwiki@hotmail.com"? 2012-11-29T20:17:46 no 2012-11-29T20:18:07 If you really want to get crazy, use thwiki@hotmail.com 2012-11-29T20:18:08 :V 2012-11-29T20:18:14 Or run your own smtp 2012-11-29T20:18:17 * Nazeo shrugs 2012-11-29T20:18:20 I hoping for xxx@touhouwiki.net email 2012-11-29T20:18:56 Don't you dare 2012-11-29T20:19:05 Hotmail is evil 2012-11-29T20:19:11 And gmail 2012-11-29T20:19:14 no longer hotmail 2012-11-29T20:19:17 akyuu already runs a smtp listener 2012-11-29T20:19:18 Avoid that too 2012-11-29T20:19:21 now @microsoft.com 2012-11-29T20:19:22 Ah~ 2012-11-29T20:19:24 ... 2012-11-29T20:19:48 Wait, no 2012-11-29T20:19:51 I MXed it to cirno 2012-11-29T20:20:10 Anyway, I can do @touhouwiki.net properly 2012-11-29T20:20:23 Bother Momiji about it 2012-11-29T20:20:30 well, just for registering twitter account only 2012-11-29T20:20:45 You can link them in twitter and FB 2012-11-29T20:20:47 and I already come out what the twitter name should be 2012-11-29T20:20:48 Oh, I thought you wanted it as a normal email account 2012-11-29T20:20:51 YES I WANT TO DO THAT 2012-11-29T20:21:20 well somehow twitter will send something through your e-mail 2012-11-29T20:21:33 so it is best someone would have the email with full access 2012-11-29T20:21:46 at least if lost password can be easily found 2012-11-29T20:22:17 That's why I said to bother Momiji 2012-11-29T20:22:29 I don't want to make an email account in her domain without her say-so 2012-11-29T20:22:38 Once set up it'd be a normal email account 2012-11-29T20:22:50 bother a few times 2012-11-29T20:22:55 but no much response 2012-11-29T20:23:06 Probably because she's busy with the KO mess 2012-11-29T20:23:22 ^ 2012-11-29T20:23:48 zh.touhouwiki still "high score archives" image...... 2012-11-29T20:24:35 MMIP? :D 2012-11-29T20:24:50 MMIP now already too far away 2012-11-29T20:24:57 Is it? 2012-11-29T20:25:00 as RSO cards' image file name haven't standarized 2012-11-29T20:25:07 ... 2012-11-29T20:25:10 they still upload RSO cards as xxxx.jpg 2012-11-29T20:25:17 I thought I did those or something... 2012-11-29T20:25:34 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33350662/MMIP/MMIP.html ... 2012-11-29T20:25:35 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: MMIP (at dl.dropbox.com) 2012-11-29T20:25:41 http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Special:RecentChanges < - today's recent uploads 2012-11-29T20:25:42 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Recent changes - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net) 2012-11-29T20:25:42 go look 2012-11-29T20:25:48 I kept mat- 2012-11-29T20:26:03 ... 2012-11-29T20:26:28 Well... it can't be worse than the categorization project... 2012-11-29T20:26:29 Kogasa3601.png to Kogasa3609.png 2012-11-29T20:26:36 Yeah... 2012-11-29T20:28:34 It has not been interlinked yet... has it? 2012-11-29T20:28:47 You may want to act now before it truly gets ugly 2012-11-29T20:28:48 I don't think non-en started RSO 2012-11-29T20:28:55 Ah 2012-11-29T20:29:17 Does the Global imgs work properly now? 2012-11-29T20:29:32 no, as of current version 2012-11-29T20:29:41 Sadface 2012-11-29T20:43:41 *** Nmlgc1 has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T20:45:02 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-11-29T21:20:51 *** KyoriAsh has quit IRC 2012-11-29T21:27:17 *** Sosso has quit IRC 2012-11-29T21:33:18 *** KyoriAsh has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T21:34:40 Back I see. 2012-11-29T21:37:49 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T21:41:57 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-11-29T21:41:58 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2012-11-29T21:58:34 Driving my sis 2012-11-29T21:58:46 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-11-29T22:43:50 *** lufu has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T22:54:10 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-11-29T22:54:34 *** Nazeo is now known as Guest11301 2012-11-29T22:55:07 *** Guest11301 is now known as Nazeo|Ipod 2012-11-29T22:55:45 Nmglc: I am free from doing stuff on EoP for awhile, is my task the same? 2012-11-29T22:56:07 Yes. 2012-11-29T22:56:14 Roger. 2012-11-29T23:02:33 Also, you could keep the staff and translation progress pages up-to-date. 2012-11-29T23:03:16 Yes I can, and will 2012-11-29T23:18:34 *** Nazeo|Ipod has quit IRC 2012-11-29T23:34:39 *** Suzuran has quit IRC 2012-11-29T23:44:36 *** Nmlgc1 has quit IRC 2012-11-29T23:48:52 *** lufu has quit IRC 2012-11-29T23:54:23 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2012-11-29T23:58:38 *** Nazeo|Work has joined #thcrap