2012-10-31T00:00:30  <Nmlgc> The big creative problem with the trailer is just that we have zero custom artwork, save for that logo
2012-10-31T00:01:14  <Nmlgc> And I lack the software and video editing skills to create something really flashy out of plaintext
2012-10-31T00:03:06  <Nazeo|Work> And I suck in general
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2012-10-31T02:15:41  <Nazeo|Work> to home
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2012-10-31T15:36:51  <Nazeo> \o
2012-10-31T15:36:56  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-10-31T15:39:12  <Nazeo> http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/User_talk:Pooshlmer#NSFW_raid_on_image_board -> Poosh is not around anymore...
2012-10-31T15:39:13  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: User talk:Pooshlmer - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net)
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2012-10-31T15:45:07  <Nmlgc> Why does he even continue to pay for that page...
2012-10-31T15:45:18  <Nazeo> Good point.
2012-10-31T15:46:20  <Nazeo> Perhaps... it's like a Relic. One like the Tower of Pisa or something...
2012-10-31T15:53:51  <Nazeo> brb
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2012-10-31T16:07:21  <fsvgm777> I swear, Avisynth is easier to use than YouTube's annotation editor.
2012-10-31T16:07:36  <Nazeo> This is a good thing, yes? :3
2012-10-31T16:07:51  <fsvgm777> ..mainly because it allows for frame-precise placement.
2012-10-31T16:08:39  <Nazeo> Odd. Youtube not having that feature seems... disappointing
2012-10-31T16:09:00  <fsvgm777> It's YouTube, what do you expect?
2012-10-31T16:09:07  <Nazeo> True!
2012-10-31T16:09:36  <Nazeo> It's not like Google which is a million dollar company wants better vids :P
2012-10-31T16:09:39  <Nazeo> That be silly
2012-10-31T16:10:05  <fsvgm777> I'm entirely using Avisynth to replace the annotations I used in the previous volumes.
2012-10-31T16:10:22  <Nazeo> Ooooh
2012-10-31T16:10:29  <Nazeo> Sounds like a lot of work
2012-10-31T16:10:40  <fsvgm777> PS: Avisynth's Subtitle function can do a lot more than freaking annotations.
2012-10-31T16:11:01  <Nazeo> Hmmm
2012-10-31T16:11:12  <fsvgm777> Nazeo: It really isn't a lot of work.
2012-10-31T16:11:24  <fsvgm777> Just a hassle.
2012-10-31T16:11:29  <Nazeo> Ah...
2012-10-31T16:12:13  <fsvgm777> Stitching the video together is a lot of work.
2012-10-31T16:12:28  <Nazeo> Ah
2012-10-31T16:12:52  <Nazeo> brb, this connection is making me mad :V
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2012-10-31T16:15:45  <Nazeo> Oh
2012-10-31T16:16:12  <Nazeo> How many years of experience do u have with these vids?
2012-10-31T16:16:44  <fsvgm777> Amazingly, not even a year, since I just started making these vids in July.
2012-10-31T16:16:58  * Nazeo whistles
2012-10-31T16:17:09  <Nazeo> But u seem to know what you are talking about
2012-10-31T16:17:29  <fsvgm777> Something I forgot to say: The Subtitle function allows for pixel-precise placement, unlike the Annotation editor.
2012-10-31T16:17:50  <fsvgm777> That's because I already made 3 volumes, and am making the 4th.
2012-10-31T16:18:11  <Nazeo> Aha
2012-10-31T16:18:32  <fsvgm777> And seriously, I'm not even a bit intimidated by Avisynth's lack of a GUI (it's script-like).
2012-10-31T16:18:45  <fsvgm777> (I use VirtualDub to preview the script)
2012-10-31T16:19:11  <Nazeo> Ah
2012-10-31T16:19:26  * Nazeo hates the term script-kiddie :/
2012-10-31T16:22:18  <fsvgm777> http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Subtitle <- Here's Avisynth's Subtitle function explained in great detail.
2012-10-31T16:22:35  <Nazeo> Oh
2012-10-31T16:22:35  <fsvgm777> (whether you understand any of it is another thing)
2012-10-31T16:22:41  <Nazeo> There is a wiki of it-
2012-10-31T16:22:44  <Nazeo> Ahahahaha!
2012-10-31T16:22:56  <fsvgm777> It's actually the official site.
2012-10-31T16:23:18  <fsvgm777> ..and it doesn't l-- nevermind, just slow.
2012-10-31T16:23:35  <Nazeo> It does not look that different from html/php
2012-10-31T16:25:49  <fsvgm777> http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Main_Page <- Here's the main page.
2012-10-31T16:26:00  <Nazeo> Yup!
2012-10-31T16:26:12  <Nazeo> Also, the logo connects to the mainpage :D
2012-10-31T16:26:19  <fsvgm777> I know.
2012-10-31T16:26:28  <fsvgm777> "AviSynth itself does not provide a graphical user interface (GUI), but instead relies on a script system that allows advanced non-linear editing."
2012-10-31T16:27:19  <fsvgm777> So... VirtualDub is essentially the "GUI", even though it's an entirely different software.
2012-10-31T16:27:41  <Nazeo> ...?
2012-10-31T16:27:44  <Nazeo> Wah?
2012-10-31T16:27:55  <fsvgm777> Well, I preview the script in VirtualDub.
2012-10-31T16:32:11  <fsvgm777> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64600169/avos.png <- Left: VirtualDub with a preview of the script. Right: The Avisynth script opened in Notepad++.
2012-10-31T16:32:40  <fsvgm777> ..and I just realised I had the character map open.
2012-10-31T16:33:06  <Nazeo> No problem :3
2012-10-31T16:33:45  <fsvgm777> Avisynth is more powerful than Windows Movie Maker, hehe.
2012-10-31T16:34:01  <Nazeo> Definitely.
2012-10-31T16:34:29  <fsvgm777> And yes, I use UVN Chim Bien, just because I like the font.
2012-10-31T16:34:34  <fsvgm777> (non-biased)
2012-10-31T16:34:41  <Nazeo> That's ok~
2012-10-31T16:46:34  <albel727> no, it's not.
2012-10-31T16:48:11  <fsvgm777> Can you place subtitles anywhere in WMM? I don't think so.
2012-10-31T16:52:52  <Nazeo> Now now~
2012-10-31T16:52:53  <Nazeo> Don't fight
2012-10-31T16:53:13  <fsvgm777> Are we?
2012-10-31T16:53:53  <Nazeo> Are you?
2012-10-31T16:54:02  <fsvgm777> I'm not.
2012-10-31T16:55:19  * Nazeo looks at abel1717
2012-10-31T16:57:01  <fsvgm777> Besides, it's his opinion, not mine. Not going into a stupid flamewar because of that.
2012-10-31T16:57:20  <Nazeo> :(
2012-10-31T16:57:27  <Nazeo> U sure u not fighting?
2012-10-31T16:57:46  <fsvgm777> I'm certainly not.
2012-10-31T17:14:38  <albel727> he certainly is.
2012-10-31T17:14:54  <Nazeo> ...
2012-10-31T17:15:18  <albel727> …
2012-10-31T17:16:19  <Nazeo> >:C
2012-10-31T17:16:27  <Nazeo> Stahp!
2012-10-31T17:16:47  <fsvgm777> Obvious lie. The end.
2012-10-31T17:18:07  <albel727> oh well, I just felt like contradicting, and for some reason he thought I meant something, which lead to 11 lines of response.
2012-10-31T17:18:21  <Nazeo> ...
2012-10-31T17:18:32  * Nazeo picks albel1727 up
2012-10-31T17:18:35  <albel727> *led
2012-10-31T17:18:47  * Nazeo gently shakes him
2012-10-31T17:18:54  * Nazeo puts him down
2012-10-31T17:19:12  * albel727 feels himself disciplined
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2012-10-31T18:42:23  <RemiShama> Haaallo.
2012-10-31T18:42:30  <Nazeo> \o
2012-10-31T18:42:32  <Nazeo> Hiya!
2012-10-31T18:42:36  <RemiShama> I have the nicks -w-
2012-10-31T18:42:44  <RemiShama> Nicks of my staffer.
2012-10-31T18:42:47  <Nazeo> Woot!
2012-10-31T18:43:16  <RemiShama> You will also add in the wiki? >_<
2012-10-31T18:43:22  <Nazeo> Yup!
2012-10-31T18:43:29  <RemiShama> Okkey purfect x3
2012-10-31T18:44:02  <RemiShama> Oh one moment, I go to drink a tea and then I give to you the nick
2012-10-31T18:44:02  <Nmlgc> Sure. However, for the sake of correct crediting we would prefer if the staffers did all the translation edits themselves.
2012-10-31T18:44:03  <RemiShama> Brb
2012-10-31T18:44:10  <RemiShama> Eh but
2012-10-31T18:44:18  <RemiShama> They wont register in the site :/
2012-10-31T18:44:27  <Nazeo> ?
2012-10-31T18:44:32  <Nazeo> Why is that?
2012-10-31T18:44:37  <Nazeo> We don't bite :x
2012-10-31T18:44:52  <RemiShama> Because they dont know how it work for editing so I do all of editing in the wiki.
2012-10-31T18:45:02  <Nazeo> We could teach them
2012-10-31T18:45:15  * Nmlgc almost forgot the tutorial
2012-10-31T18:45:35  * Nazeo forgot to remind Nmlgc
2012-10-31T18:46:06  <Nmlgc> It's this old misconception all over again...
2012-10-31T18:46:21  <Nazeo> Sorry sorry!
2012-10-31T18:47:08  <Nmlgc> ... where the translators prefer to post their work on their blogs, in forums etc. instead of the wiki, because they think that wiki editing is confusing and difficult
2012-10-31T18:47:20  <Nazeo> Oh!
2012-10-31T18:47:23  <Nazeo> That one
2012-10-31T18:47:40  <Nazeo> Forums are a bit... transient
2012-10-31T18:47:55  <Nmlgc> I can't say this often enough, but they're... our target audience *ba-dum-tssh*
2012-10-31T18:48:02  <Nazeo> :D
2012-10-31T18:50:32  <Nmlgc> And this, once again, also ties into the "fun vs. serious business argument"
2012-10-31T18:50:58  <Nazeo> I think we mix the two well :/
2012-10-31T18:51:17  <Nazeo> We are seriously fun!
2012-10-31T18:51:20  <Nazeo> :D
2012-10-31T18:52:22  <RemiShama> ?
2012-10-31T18:54:27  <Nazeo> Jokes aside, basically we want people to know that we are serious in the translation efforts, but loose enough for people to join in
2012-10-31T18:54:38  <RemiShama> Well, so we cant add the nicks? :/
2012-10-31T18:54:46  <Nazeo> We can
2012-10-31T18:55:05  <Nazeo> We'd rather him register on the wiki and try his hand in translations though
2012-10-31T18:55:08  <Nazeo> Or even
2012-10-31T18:55:15  <Nazeo> Come here and we can teach him
2012-10-31T18:55:30  <Nazeo> ( Assuming we do not have tutorial up by then )\
2012-10-31T18:55:39  <Nmlgc> Of course we can. But if the people don't edit themselves, we'll have to credit them manually - otherwise, this is done automatically
2012-10-31T18:55:58  <Nmlgc> http://thpatch.net/wiki/Special:SupportedLanguages << See?
2012-10-31T18:55:59  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Supported languages - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net)
2012-10-31T18:56:16  <Nazeo> What Nmlgc said
2012-10-31T18:57:58  <RemiShama> I can teach them how work
2012-10-31T18:58:05  <Nazeo> Yay!
2012-10-31T18:58:15  <Nazeo> It's not that bad
2012-10-31T18:58:30  <Nazeo> It's a simple process - you used it :P
2012-10-31T18:58:43  <RemiShama> But I know know if they have the time to do it... :/
2012-10-31T18:59:00  <RemiShama> And they want creditis for the translation. I dont know how to say. ._.
2012-10-31T18:59:31  <Nazeo> No worries. Just give us the name and we will make sure they will get credit
2012-10-31T18:59:58  <RemiShama> 'kay...
2012-10-31T19:00:15  <Nazeo> It's alright, really ^_^
2012-10-31T19:00:47  <RemiShama> Thank you ):
2012-10-31T19:01:00  <RemiShama> 1) T e n g u - s a n
2012-10-31T19:01:03  <RemiShama> 2) Nøcturnal
2012-10-31T19:01:18  <RemiShama> 3) ¬Ninetales.
2012-10-31T19:01:23  <RemiShama> 4) CirnoBakaLove
2012-10-31T19:01:39  <RemiShama> And me lol. Then stop.
2012-10-31T19:01:44  <Nazeo> Do you know who did what?
2012-10-31T19:01:53  <RemiShama> Yup
2012-10-31T19:02:12  <RemiShama> The first did all Double Spoiler stages
2012-10-31T19:02:43  <RemiShama> The secondo Reimu e Yukari stage in IN
2012-10-31T19:02:46  <RemiShama> *second
2012-10-31T19:03:05  <RemiShama> And me did it the Ten Desires Stage of Reimu
2012-10-31T19:03:27  <RemiShama> The other stages that have translated the other staffer are in staff zone for checking.
2012-10-31T19:03:36  <RemiShama> <<
2012-10-31T19:03:42  <Nazeo> Ah.
2012-10-31T19:03:54  <RemiShama> Yup
2012-10-31T19:04:27  <RemiShama> When one of my staffer have time for check that ill add the other translation
2012-10-31T19:05:38  <Nazeo> Okies.
2012-10-31T19:05:57  <RemiShama> Now I need to go, sorry
2012-10-31T19:06:12  <Nazeo> That's ok!
2012-10-31T19:06:13  <Nazeo> \o
2012-10-31T19:06:14  <RemiShama> I will return later maybe
2012-10-31T19:06:14  <RemiShama> <<
2012-10-31T19:06:22  <Nazeo> ^_^
2012-10-31T19:06:27  <RemiShama> Byeee
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2012-10-31T19:08:12  <Nazeo> Ok... I most certainly can add the names... you will have to do the translation credits...
2012-10-31T19:08:25  <Nazeo> Due to me not knowing how
2012-10-31T19:09:23  <Nmlgc> I'll just 1) get the .po file of the completed translation page, 2) delete the old page and 3) re-import via shell with the correct credits :-P
2012-10-31T19:09:41  <Nazeo> Sounds like a lot of work :V
2012-10-31T19:10:02  <Nmlgc> Huh? That's as little work as it can get.
2012-10-31T19:11:37  <Nazeo> Lol
2012-10-31T19:12:00  * Nazeo does not like shell much
2012-10-31T19:14:46  <Nazeo> Nmlgc, should I add what forums people come from in the description?
2012-10-31T19:15:11  <Nmlgc> ... I was thinking about the same just now (and already did the edit)
2012-10-31T19:15:19  <Nazeo> Oops
2012-10-31T19:15:52  <Nazeo> I think we should imo
2012-10-31T19:16:56  <Nmlgc> I don't think we should, for the same reason I was against that in your Global Touhou Chatroom
2012-10-31T19:17:07  <Nazeo> Ah. Ok then
2012-10-31T19:20:24  <Nmlgc> "Being member of a certain community" does not say much about a person and may cause prejudice
2012-10-31T19:20:37  <Nazeo> Yup, that makes sense
2012-10-31T19:23:16  <Nazeo> Oh
2012-10-31T19:23:48  <Nazeo> If I do the Copy-pasta from .net, you won't feel pressured to upload them?
2012-10-31T19:24:17  <Nmlgc> If you correctly do all the crediting, then not. :-)
2012-10-31T19:24:32  <Nazeo> Ah... right
2012-10-31T19:24:42  * Nazeo wonders how he keeps messing that up
2012-10-31T19:25:04  <Nmlgc> If you feel like doing something in that regard, I suggest doing the Russian Ten Desires pages
2012-10-31T19:25:18  <Nazeo> Roger
2012-10-31T19:25:23  <Nmlgc> I want to show off some cyrillic characters in the trailer ^_°
2012-10-31T19:25:49  <Nazeo> Ooooh
2012-10-31T19:26:56  <Nazeo> battery's at 10%... going to auto sleep soon -.-
2012-10-31T19:32:51  <Nazeo> To class, and then Ru TD
2012-10-31T19:32:53  <Nazeo> \o
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2012-10-31T23:09:46  <Nazeo> Problem
2012-10-31T23:09:49  <Nazeo> ...
2012-10-31T23:09:50  <Nazeo> Nvm
2012-10-31T23:09:54  * Nazeo is stupid
2012-10-31T23:10:13  <Nazeo> I panicked when I saw no Ru translation... but...
2012-10-31T23:10:20  <Nazeo> That is what I'm suppose to do...
2012-10-31T23:10:32  <Nmlgc> ^_^
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