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2012-10-16T06:20:57  <Nazeo|Work> \o
2012-10-16T06:21:02  <Nazeo|Work> Rather late for you Nmlgc
2012-10-16T06:27:37  <Nmlgc> More like "rather early". Have to leave in a couple of minutes.
2012-10-16T06:28:21  <Nazeo|Work> Ah ok
2012-10-16T06:28:35  <Nmlgc> Uh... what, I have to deal with some legal stuff because of Touhou-Online now?
2012-10-16T06:28:48  <Nazeo|Work> ?!
2012-10-16T06:28:50  <Nazeo|Work> What?
2012-10-16T06:29:09  <Nmlgc> 2012-10-15T02:18:42  <NightLunya> Because TO may be converted to something with law rights soon 2012-10-15T02:19:02  <NightLunya> And by this way I'll have to send a recommended mail to Nmlgc 2012-10-15T02:19:15  <NightLunya> (a paper mail heh) 2012-10-15T02:19:19  <NightLunya> (not email)
2012-10-16T06:29:23  <Nazeo|Work> ..................
2012-10-16T06:29:29  <Nazeo|Work> I'll handle it Nmlgc
2012-10-16T06:29:33  <Nazeo|Work> Don't worry about it
2012-10-16T06:30:11  <Nmlgc> I thought I was done after slapping that Creative Commons icon on the page -.-
2012-10-16T06:30:25  <Nazeo|Work> I don't get it
2012-10-16T06:30:33  <Nazeo|Work> What possibly be next?
2012-10-16T06:30:40  <Nmlgc> Neither do I.
2012-10-16T06:30:51  <Nazeo|Work> No way... I am handling this
2012-10-16T06:33:43  <Nmlgc> Alright, gotta leave now. \
2012-10-16T06:33:45  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-10-16T06:33:53  <Nazeo|Work> \o
2012-10-16T06:33:57  <Nazeo|Work> Stay well~
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2012-10-16T16:42:04  <Nazeo> \o
2012-10-16T16:42:12  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-10-16T17:41:04  <albel727> \o
2012-10-16T17:43:52  <Nazeo> To class
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2012-10-16T17:51:42  <Nazeo> Have a bit more time left
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2012-10-16T18:39:28  <Nazeo> That's a good idea Nmlgc
2012-10-16T18:40:08  <Nazeo> If u need to find peeps, use http://touhou-portal.6te.net/
2012-10-16T18:40:35  <Nmlgc> Huh?
2012-10-16T18:41:09  <Nazeo> Hmm
2012-10-16T18:41:22  <Nazeo> Social Networks, what do u have in mind?
2012-10-16T18:41:43  <Nmlgc> Nothing, that was just a translation for the sidebar header.
2012-10-16T18:42:01  <Nazeo> Ah
2012-10-16T18:42:03  <Nazeo> Ok then
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2012-10-16T20:08:45  <Nazeo> Sorry had to move car
2012-10-16T20:11:51  <Nmlgc> http://mauve.mizuumi.net/2011/10/07/retrospective-touhou-hisouten-translation-development/ << So yeah, my fear of patching Tasofro games was justified.
2012-10-16T20:12:31  <Nazeo> ...
2012-10-16T20:13:00  <Nmlgc> Looks like that's exactly what we have to expect from 13.5 if we end up doing it.
2012-10-16T20:13:18  <Nazeo> Damn damn damn
2012-10-16T20:14:16  <Nazeo> Well
2012-10-16T20:14:31  <Nazeo> If he can do it, so can you right? That's a good thing
2012-10-16T20:14:40  <Nazeo> You'll be able to show your stuff
2012-10-16T20:14:57  <Nmlgc> The question is if I _want_ to.
2012-10-16T20:15:04  <Nazeo> You are right
2012-10-16T20:15:14  <Nazeo> Pros and Cons?
2012-10-16T20:15:30  <Nmlgc> If we're already expanding our scope that far (technically speaking), where's the limit?
2012-10-16T20:15:43  <Nazeo> Ah...
2012-10-16T20:16:12  <Nazeo> That means people will expect you to do all other stuff right?
2012-10-16T20:17:50  <Nmlgc> Absolutely.
2012-10-16T20:17:59  <Nazeo> :(
2012-10-16T20:18:07  <Nazeo> Don't do anything you don't wanna do
2012-10-16T20:18:11  <Nazeo> Make your stance clear
2012-10-16T20:18:46  <Nmlgc> https://twitter.com/botoggle/status/254240239990738945 << See?
2012-10-16T20:18:47  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Twitter / botoggle: @mauvecow You dont understand, ... (at twitter.com)
2012-10-16T20:19:03  <Nmlgc> Our target audience.
2012-10-16T20:19:26  <Nazeo> Oh... joy
2012-10-16T20:19:30  <Nmlgc> Heck, Rosenkreuzstilette ~ Freudenstachel comes out on the 20th, why don't we do this one too? I mean, we already have an engine that's most likely capable of doing it+
2012-10-16T20:19:53  <Nazeo> I get it
2012-10-16T20:20:37  <Nazeo> Scale... would you consider it if more people was willing to help?
2012-10-16T20:20:51  <Nmlgc> Definitely.
2012-10-16T20:21:05  <Nmlgc> With "consider" meaning "providing hosting"
2012-10-16T20:21:51  <Nmlgc> ... as pointed out in the fangame section in the FAQ document.
2012-10-16T20:22:43  <Nazeo> I can host
2012-10-16T20:22:56  <Nazeo> If that is the issue, there is a CentOS I've had my eye on
2012-10-16T20:23:42  <Nmlgc> Nah, that would make no sense. I'll only need your server as a data mirror, which we'll set up in about a month
2012-10-16T20:24:05  <Nazeo> What sort of hosting do you have in mind?
2012-10-16T20:25:11  <Nmlgc> Just a normal web directory serving the converted patch files, updated via rsync.
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2012-10-16T20:26:50  <Nazeo> If I can do that, ask
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2012-10-16T23:11:33  <C_> uh, hi.
2012-10-16T23:11:48  <Nazeo> \o
2012-10-16T23:12:14  *** C_ is now known as Shiizendame
2012-10-16T23:12:24  <Nazeo> Missed you~
2012-10-16T23:12:24  <Shiizendame> um, sorry for ot logging in for so long.
2012-10-16T23:12:28  <Nazeo> That's alright
2012-10-16T23:12:31  <Shiizendame> *not
2012-10-16T23:12:42  <Shiizendame> but anyways it wasn't my fault.
2012-10-16T23:12:45  <Shiizendame> dad grounded me.
2012-10-16T23:12:54  <Nazeo> Ah...
2012-10-16T23:12:59  <Shiizendame> just because I didn't get really good grades at school.
2012-10-16T23:13:17  <Shiizendame> I am still grounded, and I am not even supposed to be using a PC right now...
2012-10-16T23:13:24  <Shiizendame> but oh well.
2012-10-16T23:13:37  <Shiizendame> thanks to that I have been using my PS2 a lot more,
2012-10-16T23:13:40  <Shiizendame> and that's good...
2012-10-16T23:13:42  <Shiizendame> ...right?
2012-10-16T23:13:55  <Shiizendame> hmmm...
2012-10-16T23:14:19  <Shiizendame> I see there are new people here.
2012-10-16T23:14:36  <Shiizendame> and the bot had a name change.
2012-10-16T23:14:42  <Shiizendame> or is it another bot...?
2012-10-16T23:14:59  <Nmlgc> It's the same one. I've been gradually phasing out all MLP references.
2012-10-16T23:15:19  <Shiizendame> oh.
2012-10-16T23:15:35  <Shiizendame> ...MagicStone kinda reminds me of something.
2012-10-16T23:16:04  <Shiizendame> but I can't point out exactly what.
2012-10-16T23:16:10  <Nmlgc> http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Five_Magic_Stones
2012-10-16T23:16:11  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Five Magic Stones - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net)
2012-10-16T23:16:16  <Shiizendame> ...oh, I remembered now.
2012-10-16T23:16:21  <Shiizendame> well...
2012-10-16T23:16:23  <Nmlgc> Best Touhou character, hands down.
2012-10-16T23:16:30  <Shiizendame> it wasn't that, but...
2012-10-16T23:16:37  <Shiizendame> ^this.
2012-10-16T23:17:32  <Shiizendame> I thought of the Mother game series just when I saw that name.
2012-10-16T23:23:27  <Shiizendame> so, has anything happened around here lately?
2012-10-16T23:23:53  <Nmlgc> Well, not an awful lot since you left ~2 months ago.
2012-10-16T23:24:35  <Nmlgc> I finished the prototype patches for every game, and have been failing to write up a proper project overview for a month now.
2012-10-16T23:24:43  <Nmlgc> Lots of administrative and personal drama.
2012-10-16T23:25:13  <Nmlgc> And then, Tasofro announced Touhou 13.5, and it went downhill from there.
2012-10-16T23:26:12  <Nmlgc> http://pastebin.com/J0q2aiWC << For these reasons.
2012-10-16T23:26:13  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: thpatch.net's Touhou 13.5 dilemma - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
2012-10-16T23:26:39  * Nazeo nods
2012-10-16T23:28:31  <Shiizendame> ...what?
2012-10-16T23:28:38  <Shiizendame> Touhou 13.5 was announced...
2012-10-16T23:28:42  <Shiizendame> by TasoFro?
2012-10-16T23:28:50  <Nmlgc> http://tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html
2012-10-16T23:28:53  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: “Œ•û�SãY˜O�@�` Hopeless Masquerade. (at tasofro.net)
2012-10-16T23:29:04  <Shiizendame> that means another oddball game will be released...?
2012-10-16T23:29:17  <Shiizendame> I assume they are harder to translate or something.
2012-10-16T23:29:24  <Nmlgc> Much harder.
2012-10-16T23:30:15  <Shiizendame> I just read that pastebin.
2012-10-16T23:31:03  <Shiizendame> crap, you got a really long path to go if you want to translate that game, TasoFro's (probably) so-called c++ monstrosity.
2012-10-16T23:31:47  <Shiizendame> I don't know if this will help, but if you want to translate that game to gain the fandom, you should freeze progress on all other projects to focus solely on this game.
2012-10-16T23:33:21  <Nmlgc> Which we could only do after we have the executable, because I can't predict the amount of difficulty that will come with this game.
2012-10-16T23:34:11  <Nmlgc> I spent the last week looking at DynaMarisa and that Satori game to get an idea of what to expect, and did all I could to prepare the generic stuff necessary for those games
2012-10-16T23:34:57  <Shiizendame> hmmm...
2012-10-16T23:37:18  <Shiizendame> what is the number of characters that you expect to appear in this game?
2012-10-16T23:37:37  <Nmlgc> Honestly, that's not what I care about -.-
2012-10-16T23:38:27  <Shiizendame> well, I think the amount of characters changes the amount of dialogue messages that you have to translate,
2012-10-16T23:38:36  <Shiizendame> and probably, more c++ monstrosity.
2012-10-16T23:39:19  <Nmlgc> Nah, not really. The main problem is just how the games load their data files and the useless encryption done on them.
2012-10-16T23:40:38  <Shiizendame> so more characters won't mean much problem...?
2012-10-16T23:40:53  <Shiizendame> but what if all character data is encrypted differently?
2012-10-16T23:41:04  <Shiizendame> and what if there are 30 or more characters?
2012-10-16T23:41:09  <Shiizendame> that means about...
2012-10-16T23:41:44  <Shiizendame> ...
2012-10-16T23:41:53  <Nmlgc> Ah. That might actually be a realistic expectation, you know.
2012-10-16T23:42:09  <Shiizendame> well, I think that can be calculated by squaring the number,
2012-10-16T23:42:38  <Shiizendame> so that could be AT THE VERY LEAST more than 900 possible dialogue outcomes,
2012-10-16T23:43:03  <Shiizendame> that is, without counting story mode dialogues (if there is one) because those ones are usually restricted to some characters,
2012-10-16T23:43:16  <Shiizendame> and as we don't know if new characters will be added...
2012-10-16T23:43:41  <Shiizendame> wait, there's also the menus, and different screens.
2012-10-16T23:45:08  <Shiizendame> let's just hope all the dialogues are encrypted in just one way or something.
2012-10-16T23:45:23  <Shiizendame> that way it will be easier to edit the text.
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2012-10-16T23:46:53  <Nmlgc> Anyway, have to go to bed now.
2012-10-16T23:47:48  <Shiizendame> oh.
2012-10-16T23:47:50  <Shiizendame> bye then.
2012-10-16T23:48:14  <Nmlgc> @later tell Nazeo If you have time, could you go through the IRC logs a bit and copy everything interesting to the FAQ document?
2012-10-16T23:48:14  <[Bot]MagicStone> Nmlgc: The operation succeeded.
2012-10-16T23:48:17  <Nmlgc> \o
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2012-10-16T23:49:10  <Shiizendame> guess I should leave now.
2012-10-16T23:49:20  <Shiizendame> don't expect me to be here tomorrow.
2012-10-16T23:49:25  <Shiizendame> or the day after.
2012-10-16T23:49:30  <Shiizendame> or the day after.
2012-10-16T23:49:34  <Shiizendame> or the day after.
2012-10-16T23:49:42  <Shiizendame> or the day... I guess you get it.
2012-10-16T23:49:58  <Shiizendame> maybe I'll log on in a week or so.
2012-10-16T23:50:01  <Shiizendame> well, bye.
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2012-10-16T23:54:18  <Nazeo|Work> No...
2012-10-16T23:54:24  <Nazeo|Work> Missed him