2012-10-13T00:01:35 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2012-10-13T00:24:18 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-10-13T00:27:03 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T00:49:54 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-10-13T00:51:25 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T00:51:49 \o 2012-10-13T00:51:58 \o 2012-10-13T00:52:29 Hey Nmlgc? 2012-10-13T00:52:33 Hmm? 2012-10-13T00:52:51 Since the cat is already out of the bag... are you at all interested in the radio thingy I got? 2012-10-13T00:54:06 Um... not yet, but maybe once something came out of it. 2012-10-13T00:54:23 * Nazeo nods 2012-10-13T00:54:36 You mentioned it to me once when we were talking about Touhou Tuesday 2012-10-13T00:55:51 Ah, right, podcasting. Well, I don't have anything to say these days anymore. 2012-10-13T00:55:59 :( 2012-10-13T01:00:00 Anyway, I'm done with DynaMarisa for now. 2012-10-13T01:00:06 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13801415/Touhou/mi/tasofro/dynamarisa_unicode.jpg << "...lookup tables instead" 2012-10-13T01:00:12 Ah, success! 2012-10-13T01:00:34 Oh... 2012-10-13T01:00:41 Much effort on your part it seems 2012-10-13T01:04:10 The umlauts alone took way too long. These games render text one letter at a time. At least they did half of the multi-byte char handling right by just relying on Win32 API functions (which just happen not to work on Western versions), but they still made it more complicated than necessary. 2012-10-13T01:04:34 Oh. We can't even use lookup tables now. 2012-10-13T01:04:38 * Nmlgc facepalms 2012-10-13T01:05:36 And to make matters worse, the data dumper does not transfer fully to the Satori game -.- 2012-10-13T01:05:44 Oh... dear 2012-10-13T01:07:59 Now, we have this dilemma again... 2012-10-13T01:08:28 I really, really do not want to promise Touhou 13.5 support now, but if I don't, this week would have been completely wasted. 2012-10-13T01:08:43 * Nazeo sighs 2012-10-13T01:08:52 What do you want to do? 2012-10-13T01:09:02 Either way u have my support 2012-10-13T01:10:04 If this was my choice, I'd just ignore this game. But remember, this project is beyond personal preference 2012-10-13T01:10:34 Heck, maybe there is no Touhou 14 next year, because ZUN's announcement was referring to this game 2012-10-13T01:10:44 *referring to 13.5 2012-10-13T01:11:06 ...I don't like seeing u stressed. 2012-10-13T01:11:52 ... 2012-10-13T01:12:00 You think it's feasible? 2012-10-13T01:12:04 *** Toshiaki has quit IRC 2012-10-13T01:12:50 Everything's feasible if you hack in enough code for an extended period of time. 2012-10-13T01:12:57 Ok. 2012-10-13T01:12:59 It's all about priorities, not feasability. 2012-10-13T01:13:06 Is this something you are willing to do? 2012-10-13T01:13:35 For the fame, yes. 2012-10-13T01:13:51 Then... you should go for it 2012-10-13T01:13:57 If I can help, plz ask 2012-10-13T01:14:46 But it's not "I want to do a patch", but "the fandom demands a patch, and we take on the burden to deliver it" 2012-10-13T01:15:17 Right right 2012-10-13T01:15:30 That is why I asked you who is our audience. 2012-10-13T01:15:36 Is it the dissenters? 2012-10-13T01:15:45 Or is it this generation of Th fans? 2012-10-13T01:18:45 I understand this is not an easy question. 2012-10-13T01:21:29 It's everybody who prefers to play the games translated (read: ... everybody) 2012-10-13T01:21:39 Eek... 2012-10-13T01:21:44 The pressure... 2012-10-13T01:21:53 Why should it be any different? 2012-10-13T01:22:06 It seems you have made up your mind :/ 2012-10-13T01:22:10 I'm not making this to have another group make a different patch 2012-10-13T01:22:20 * Nazeo nods 2012-10-13T01:30:19 *** Toshiaki has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T01:32:14 \o 2012-10-13T01:32:26 Hello 2012-10-13T01:32:55 How harks the wiki pages? 2012-10-13T01:50:45 Not much happening there, although I might want to translate some other Japanese pages on mythology sometime later. 2012-10-13T01:50:57 Ah 2012-10-13T02:04:59 >this project is beyond personal preference 2012-10-13T02:05:17 Nmlgc: you are doing something you don't want to do? 2012-10-13T02:05:46 ... 2012-10-13T02:06:41 Nazeo: a very meaningful reply v_v 2012-10-13T02:07:06 That question was not meant for me :/ 2012-10-13T02:07:19 uh-huh 2012-10-13T02:07:32 then a comment, not a reply 2012-10-13T02:07:43 http://thpatch.net/wiki/User:NamelessLegacy << Should explain everything. I hope. 2012-10-13T02:07:44 <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: User:NamelessLegacy - Touhou Patch Central (at thpatch.net) 2012-10-13T02:07:52 * Nazeo nods 2012-10-13T02:08:07 i already read it month ago... 2012-10-13T02:08:24 well, will read it again then, maybe i missed something 2012-10-13T02:12:31 *** Toshiaki has quit IRC 2012-10-13T02:13:23 *** Myrtle has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T02:13:57 \o 2012-10-13T02:13:59 hi 2012-10-13T02:14:01 Long time no see 2012-10-13T02:14:06 hehe 2012-10-13T02:14:13 Wb~ 2012-10-13T02:16:02 so yeah essay writing atm 2012-10-13T02:16:19 and once again: you guys are taking fandoms too seriously, too personal) 2012-10-13T02:16:32 * Nazeo facepalms 2012-10-13T02:16:43 see^ 2012-10-13T02:17:04 How do I explain... 2012-10-13T02:17:20 * Nazeo thinks real hard 2012-10-13T02:17:23 Well 2012-10-13T02:17:27 How would you handle it? 2012-10-13T02:17:48 would? 2012-10-13T02:18:06 ^ 2012-10-13T02:18:40 why "would"? i'm a touhou fan, at least i think i am) 2012-10-13T02:18:52 * Nazeo facepalms again 2012-10-13T02:19:13 I never said you were not a touhou fan, lol 2012-10-13T02:19:16 you sure like to facepalm >_> 2012-10-13T02:19:25 Well 2012-10-13T02:19:31 I feel like I'm being trolled 2012-10-13T02:19:33 so why "would handle" if i am handeling? 2012-10-13T02:19:33 Anwya 2012-10-13T02:19:37 Anyway 2012-10-13T02:21:06 i just don't get why you are asking what would i do if i was a fan of something myself 2012-10-13T02:21:09 wait what are we talking about now 2012-10-13T02:21:21 fandoms?? 2012-10-13T02:21:27 ... 2012-10-13T02:21:28 if i'm already a fan ._. 2012-10-13T02:21:39 Tbh Myrtle, I do not even know at this point 2012-10-13T02:21:45 there is no "would" in such sence) 2012-10-13T02:21:50 Neither do I. 2012-10-13T02:21:53 does it have anything to do with nameless 2012-10-13T02:22:06 ... 2012-10-13T02:22:14 I don't even know 2012-10-13T02:22:15 not personally 2012-10-13T02:22:40 umm 2012-10-13T02:22:44 What was the question again? 2012-10-13T02:22:53 anyway, i seem to confuse you, so i will stop talking) 2012-10-13T02:23:05 confusing people too much is bad 2012-10-13T02:23:15 No no 2012-10-13T02:23:23 I just didn't know what you were asking lol 2012-10-13T02:23:54 same here 2012-10-13T02:24:20 ... 2012-10-13T02:24:25 have no idea what you really meant by "it" in >How would you handle it? 2012-10-13T02:24:35 Oh! 2012-10-13T02:24:38 anyway, i'm running away~ 2012-10-13T02:24:39 We are still on that? 2012-10-13T02:24:42 ... 2012-10-13T02:24:43 * nurupo runs away 2012-10-13T02:24:43 No 2012-10-13T02:24:55 I am going to answer your question 2012-10-13T02:25:15 How would you not take the fandom seriously ( points for me trolling ) 2012-10-13T02:25:47 I think it's about Touhou 13.5 which recently got announced and now we have to patch it because people would expect us doing so or maybe they won't but we should do anyway because we have the technology to do so faster than anybody else but originally I didn't want to patch them Tasofro games because they are terribly programmed complex C++ monstrosities and now I feel kinda forced to do so because we desperately wanted to do the 2012-10-13T02:26:05 Fu-ck. 2012-10-13T02:26:18 ? 2012-10-13T02:27:46 ehhhhhhhh 2012-10-13T02:30:50 Oh, this wasn't sent completely -.- 2012-10-13T02:30:57 ... because we desperately wanted to do the next Touhou game in order to take over the fandom and now it's a fighting game and maybe there's no Touhou 14 next year after all, so... 2012-10-13T02:31:03 Ah 2012-10-13T02:31:10 ... 2012-10-13T02:31:32 Maybe ZUN has figured out what you were trying to do and is messing with you? 2012-10-13T02:31:37 :V 2012-10-13T02:33:58 ... and Mauve already announced that he probably won't patch this game because he is also sick of having to fix their broken netcode all over again every single time and maybe even without weather system and whatnot this game could just be SWR/Soku unbalanced casual bullshit all over again which is no match against the glory of IaMP so in the end there's nobody to patch this game except maybe Pooshlmer who did DynaMarisa but who k 2012-10-13T02:34:31 lol iamp 2012-10-13T02:34:38 DynaMarisa but who knows how long that will take so that would be _the_ opportunity for us to take over even if it took us like a week to get the patch ready instead of two hours if it was a ZUN game 2012-10-13T02:35:19 But it feels so _wrong_. I'd rather patch Seihou now 2012-10-13T02:35:28 Damn, 2012-10-13T02:38:39 ... 2012-10-13T02:38:59 This would cement your desired fame. 2012-10-13T02:39:03 All the cards are lined up. 2012-10-13T02:39:13 Everything is in place for that to happen. 2012-10-13T03:03:48 *** nurupo has quit IRC 2012-10-13T03:03:55 *** nurupo_ has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T03:04:11 *** nurupo_ is now known as nurupo 2012-10-13T03:14:55 *** Nmlgc1 has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T03:16:23 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-10-13T04:10:48 *** Myrtle has quit IRC 2012-10-13T04:13:43 *** Myrtle has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T04:25:56 *** Nmlgc1 is now known as Nmlgc 2012-10-13T04:29:42 OK. Tomorrow will be the last day I'll spend on Tasofro game hacking for now. 2012-10-13T04:29:50 Okies. 2012-10-13T04:30:20 If I manage to finish that Satori game, I'm obviously fast enough to deal with whatever they throw at me with Touhou 13.5. 2012-10-13T04:30:30 That's the spirit! 2012-10-13T04:30:32 ^_^ 2012-10-13T04:31:21 If I don't... well, we're still going to at least take a look at that game when it's out, but we announce nothing in advance. 2012-10-13T04:31:31 Good call. 2012-10-13T04:31:55 Good night, then. \o 2012-10-13T04:31:59 \o 2012-10-13T04:32:01 Night! 2012-10-13T04:32:01 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-10-13T07:24:50 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-10-13T07:31:27 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-10-13T07:44:15 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T10:07:57 *** Myrtle has left #thcrap 2012-10-13T10:57:26 *** fsvgm777 has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T11:44:14 *** Link has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T11:44:44 *** Link is now known as Guest83493 2012-10-13T11:58:33 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T12:54:31 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T14:04:55 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-10-13T14:46:22 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T15:13:47 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-10-13T15:49:52 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T15:50:04 \o 2012-10-13T15:50:07 \o 2012-10-13T15:52:25 Guess what, the loader wasn't thread-safe enough. It got tripped when a file object was passed from one thread to another. At least I know what to do now 2012-10-13T15:52:38 ... 2012-10-13T15:52:49 Hmmm 2012-10-13T15:53:15 (Translation: Confidence regained, let's do this!) 2012-10-13T15:53:22 Ah! 2012-10-13T15:53:34 That's good, cuz I was worried about you 2012-10-13T15:53:45 Stress makes me :( 2012-10-13T16:00:52 *** KyoriAsh has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T16:09:28 Kyori appears O.O 2012-10-13T16:13:06 *** Myrtle has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T16:15:27 \o 2012-10-13T16:15:42 hey 2012-10-13T16:16:58 Hi hi 2012-10-13T17:36:06 ... damn, no. I can't patch this game today. 2012-10-13T17:36:19 Out of time? 2012-10-13T17:36:47 I may be eventually able to get a perfect dump of the original data, but then, I couldn't replace it 2012-10-13T17:37:11 Why not? 2012-10-13T17:37:18 Because there is no central point where the size of the file buffer is set 2012-10-13T17:37:24 Oh no... 2012-10-13T17:37:46 ... 2012-10-13T17:38:01 Buffer overflow is an option? 2012-10-13T17:38:20 Of course not. -.- 2012-10-13T17:38:34 That would crash the game immediately after we supply the custom file 2012-10-13T17:38:35 Eh, it was worth a shot 2012-10-13T17:39:28 It's the same I said before looking at DynaMarisa. I'd have to set breakpoints for every single format loaded. 2012-10-13T17:39:40 ... 2012-10-13T17:39:47 That takes forever... 2012-10-13T17:41:54 @post The final answer regarding Touhou 13.5? "Maybe." We'll decide it when we actually have the game executable. 2012-10-13T17:41:56 <[Bot]MagicStone> Nmlgc: Tweet sent. 2012-10-13T17:42:23 That's a fair assessment 2012-10-13T19:24:57 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-10-13T21:57:46 *** Nmlgc1 has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T21:58:45 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-10-13T22:37:25 *** Myrtle has quit IRC 2012-10-13T22:38:00 *** Myrtle has joined #thcrap 2012-10-13T22:38:24 *** Myrtle is now known as Guest88872