2012-09-17T00:15:37 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T00:25:04 *** nurupo has left #thcrap 2012-09-17T00:25:37 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T00:25:51 *** nurupo has left #thcrap 2012-09-17T00:37:53 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T01:53:36 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T03:11:46 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T05:04:53 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T06:12:31 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T06:13:40 And... I am back from the hardest thing I ever done in my life 2012-09-17T06:14:24 I have so much work to do... 2012-09-17T06:15:20 ...? 2012-09-17T06:15:31 * Nazeo looks at linkmauve 2012-09-17T06:15:39 I've heard of you... 2012-09-17T06:15:55 Nmlgc mentioned you once or twice before 2012-09-17T06:16:13 * Nazeo digs for link 2012-09-17T06:16:30 http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Mauve = you? 2012-09-17T06:28:27 Nope, I’m the other developper of PyTouhou. :) 2012-09-17T06:28:42 Ah, that is just as grand man. 2012-09-17T06:28:50 GJ! (U =w=) d 2012-09-17T06:29:00 Thanks. ^^ 2012-09-17T06:29:44 I’m currently working on PCB support for our engine. 2012-09-17T06:30:08 Oh wow, that's so cool! 2012-09-17T06:30:15 I could never do anything like that 2012-09-17T06:30:27 Speaking of support... 2012-09-17T06:30:35 * Nazeo reads thpatch's twitter 2012-09-17T06:30:40 ... 2012-09-17T06:30:56 They are now harassing Nmlgc... -.- 2012-09-17T06:31:15 Poor guy... that's MY job 2012-09-17T06:31:25 We don’t yet support thpatch, but that’d be a very good thing (except we currently don’t display any text at all…). 2012-09-17T06:31:52 Ah that's alright, we don't mind ppl chilling with us :3 2012-09-17T06:33:14 brb... I messed up my window -.- 2012-09-17T06:33:21 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-09-17T06:35:00 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T06:35:10 Back 2012-09-17T06:35:18 I also see the name changed 2012-09-17T06:36:26 I support it; it is good to break the whole wiki thing anyway since we are "rebels" 2012-09-17T06:36:29 :P 2012-09-17T06:36:50 Now I just gotta change all my stuff now 2012-09-17T06:38:18 The name changed? Damn! I missed the drama! 2012-09-17T06:38:33 I’m here only since a few days. 2012-09-17T06:38:34 ^ 2012-09-17T06:38:55 I just got back from my FTX training at Fort McCoy 2012-09-17T06:39:12 And... 2012-09-17T06:39:25 If you drama, you came to the right place 2012-09-17T06:39:51 Well... I usually direct the drama away from Nmlgc as he is quite busy, but I am willing to share with you. :3 2012-09-17T06:40:21 Despite my best efforts though, sometimes drama leaks through and... 2012-09-17T06:40:29 Stuff happens :V 2012-09-17T06:41:11 :D 2012-09-17T06:41:45 ... 2012-09-17T06:41:47 I fail 2012-09-17T06:41:55 "If you drama," ... 2012-09-17T06:42:10 I drama, you drama, we all drama -.- 2012-09-17T06:42:21 I also sometimes the verb, don’t worry. 2012-09-17T06:42:26 XD 2012-09-17T06:53:10 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Here's what Twitter has to say: 2012-09-17T06:53:11 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> NazeoAelkoNezen -- @thpatch This feels familiar... http://t.co/gCzwGlwb 2012-09-17T06:53:53 :P 2012-09-17T08:22:32 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-09-17T08:24:09 Going to bed \o 2012-09-17T08:24:19 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-09-17T08:33:56 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T10:43:22 *** fsvgm777 has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T10:47:43 *** nurupo_ has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T10:50:01 *** nurupo has quit IRC 2012-09-17T10:50:02 *** nurupo_ is now known as nurupo 2012-09-17T10:50:02 *** nurupo has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T14:47:55 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T16:12:35 *** chkktri_ has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T16:14:55 *** chkktri has quit IRC 2012-09-17T16:56:02 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T17:04:37 *** Nazeo|College has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T17:04:42 \o 2012-09-17T17:05:07 o/ 2012-09-17T17:05:15 \o 2012-09-17T17:05:38 Today I will do some major conversions, so make up for my absence. 2012-09-17T17:05:48 Great to have you back here. It became really quiet without someone stating the obvious from time to time :-) 2012-09-17T17:05:53 That will occur at about 4Pm, (my time) 2012-09-17T17:06:01 =XD 2012-09-17T17:06:27 I got lonely so I am glad to be back 2012-09-17T17:07:51 The discussion with the Lunatic Red guy was actually pretty civilized. No sign of harassment anywhere 2012-09-17T17:08:11 Oh, I am glad things went ok then. 2012-09-17T17:08:21 I know you hate drama 2012-09-17T17:09:09 That person now abhors the sole idea of patching games in the first place 2012-09-17T17:09:27 That's... um interesting 2012-09-17T17:09:58 Well, guess guys like me can't play Touhou Games because I don't know what's going on :V 2012-09-17T17:10:15 Just a girl flying around shooting bullets at other little girls 2012-09-17T17:10:18 :/ 2012-09-17T17:10:41 Why 2012-09-17T17:10:45 Idk, I can't read it 2012-09-17T17:11:36 Something like... "The game code is ZUN's business and his alone, don't meddle with it just because you don't understand a word" 2012-09-17T17:12:20 That sounds like something a cult leader would say, lol 2012-09-17T17:12:34 So, he wants you to build from ground up? 2012-09-17T17:12:34 Then use PyTouhou, which doesn’t use any of ZUN’s executable but all of his scripts, and it’s good. :p 2012-09-17T17:13:11 Eh, they will find something else to find fault with the project :/ 2012-09-17T17:13:23 I do think he meant to include the game data as well 2012-09-17T17:13:43 Is he a programmer? 2012-09-17T17:13:59 The sole action of researching the games' internals 2012-09-17T17:14:07 No, and that's the problem... 2012-09-17T17:14:22 ... 2012-09-17T17:14:51 Dude, I am not a programmer and even I know that is such an inconvenience... 2012-09-17T17:15:19 I wanted to show him the source code so that he could get a grasp of "how disrespectful we really are", but he declined as he wouldn't understand anything anyway 2012-09-17T17:15:21 If it was me, I'd tell him he can go make the patch w/o modifying source code :/ 2012-09-17T17:15:37 * Nazeo|College shakes head 2012-09-17T17:15:51 Searching how a game works has almost nothing to do with programmation, it’s really two separate works. 2012-09-17T17:15:59 ^ 2012-09-17T17:16:09 XD and this is why I am not a programmar 2012-09-17T17:16:35 ... 2012-09-17T17:16:43 It can help, for example to test your theories, but that’s all. 2012-09-17T17:16:50 *Programmer 2012-09-17T17:17:02 I think he'd actually be way more furious if I told him of PyTouhou 2012-09-17T17:17:21 :D 2012-09-17T17:17:23 :< 2012-09-17T17:17:42 ... as the executable is often the last thing that's considered "protected by copyright" in many forums 2012-09-17T17:17:49 I know quite a few people who told me I was ripping ZUN’s work. 2012-09-17T17:17:52 (see Shrinemaiden) 2012-09-17T17:18:25 Right. 2012-09-17T17:18:34 * Nazeo|College thinks about it 2012-09-17T17:19:09 Well, what about mods such as GTA? (Grand Theft Auto if you are not familiar) 2012-09-17T17:19:14 Btw we wrote to ZUN to present him our project, mainly to not get any issue if he found it while randomly browsing the Internet. 2012-09-17T17:19:16 Are those in the same vein? 2012-09-17T17:19:31 Lemme guess, he said nothing :/ 2012-09-17T17:19:35 We didn’t get any reply though. 2012-09-17T17:19:37 Yeah… 2012-09-17T17:19:46 Yup, I asked him too :/ 2012-09-17T17:19:58 It's ok though 2012-09-17T17:20:14 Nazeo|College, mods are the opposite, it’s rewriting the data while running on the same engine, while ours was rewriting the engine to run with the original data. 2012-09-17T17:20:41 Well, we didn't discuss such mods... and if I think about it, that "cult leader" idea does make sense here 2012-09-17T17:21:23 To Linkmauve: Ok, I am going to stop being ignorant and start research right away 2012-09-17T17:21:43 To Nmlgc: Which is probably what the other guy should do 2012-09-17T17:22:12 The discussion actually took place in touhou-forum.de's chat 2012-09-17T17:22:15 http://rewiki.regengedanken.de/wiki/Main_Page could be of interest. 2012-09-17T17:22:16 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: REWiki (at rewiki.regengedanken.de) 2012-09-17T17:22:28 Wow, that is very interesting 2012-09-17T17:22:36 Must have followed the link I posted 2012-09-17T17:22:48 ... which I not dare to visit again due to admin drama 2012-09-17T17:23:01 Nmlgc, I understand a little bit of German, what is the link of the topic? 2012-09-17T17:23:06 Right, they still wanna use RPGMakerfor their game? 2012-09-17T17:23:58 Well, I can't upload the chat log as it's on a different PC 2012-09-17T17:24:20 Eh, it's fine 2012-09-17T17:24:24 The admin drama's here: http://www.touhou-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=489 2012-09-17T17:24:26 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Grife macht klarschiff - Off Topic - Touhou-Forum (at www.touhou-forum.de) 2012-09-17T17:24:40 ... 2012-09-17T17:24:56 Pardon my language, but is it a clusterfuck? 2012-09-17T17:25:33 (Summary: Admin is gay and has a forum member as his boyfriend, was apparently harassed for it, and used the occasion for a completely irrelevant personal attack against me. Irrelevant because after my answer was ignored, it was clear that no one sheds a single tear over de.touhouwiki.net) 2012-09-17T17:26:26 * Nazeo|College sighs 2012-09-17T17:26:51 I'm sorry 2012-09-17T17:35:17 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T17:35:20 o/ 2012-09-17T17:35:26 \o 2012-09-17T17:35:56 And there are some users who prefer IRC over the integrated forum chat. 2012-09-17T17:36:14 ..maybe "forum chat" wasn't the proper wording. 2012-09-17T17:36:53 I only noticed me and... one other person who was there for a day or two. 2012-09-17T17:36:54 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T17:37:05 * Nazeo|College points to http://touhouytrp.net/wiki/Special:WebChat as an example 2012-09-17T17:37:07 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Web chat - Beyond The Border (at touhouytrp.net) 2012-09-17T17:38:04 You may have to sign into the wiki to see as I have it disabled for Anons 2012-09-17T17:39:01 Hmm, it works for me and I'm not signed in 2012-09-17T17:39:04 I know an entire site who prefers IRC over Xat and the like. 2012-09-17T17:39:08 :V 2012-09-17T17:39:25 ..maybe even two. 2012-09-17T17:39:46 Then I must have made it w/o link for anions but whoever has link can access 2012-09-17T17:39:52 *anons 2012-09-17T17:40:02 ... 2012-09-17T17:40:10 That seems like a security flaw... 2012-09-17T17:40:24 Ah well, I can fix it later 2012-09-17T17:41:00 Oh, I gotta settle the feud with touhou.net and Touhou-Online 2012-09-17T17:41:07 Somehow that got brought up again :/ 2012-09-17T17:41:22 wut 2012-09-17T17:41:28 Here it’s in French, which I understand way more as it is my native language. ^^ 2012-09-17T17:42:09 and yup I'd prefer IRC over Skype lol 2012-09-17T17:42:31 IRC is apparently just too big of a cultural difference for normal users 2012-09-17T17:42:37 let's see 2012-09-17T17:42:41 And personally, I find IRC easy to use (then again, I'm used to it) 2012-09-17T17:42:50 IRC IIRC IRRC 2012-09-17T17:42:51 Oh, the Admin of Touhou-Online's is like me and MUCK's situation 2012-09-17T17:42:51 I’ll always prefer an open protocol to a closed one, with a proprietary client and forced server. 2012-09-17T17:42:53 @a IRRC 2012-09-17T17:42:54 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> DeltaSierra4: Error: "a" is not a valid command. 2012-09-17T17:42:59 hmm 2012-09-17T17:43:01 that didn't work 2012-09-17T17:43:14 I already failed to teach them the concept of a "registered nick" 2012-09-17T17:43:28 Except where MUCK has 0 chance of ever being civil with me, I feel the two can get along 2012-09-17T17:43:31 @whatis Nazeo 2012-09-17T17:43:31 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> DeltaSierra4: "Nazeo" could be (#1) crest, or (#2) means to do well but phails 2012-09-17T17:43:34 lol 2012-09-17T17:43:39 I prefer XMPP because it’s a much better protocol, with almost only improvements over IRC though. 2012-09-17T17:43:40 :/ 2012-09-17T17:43:48 u might wanna change that Nazeo 2012-09-17T17:43:52 especially #2 2012-09-17T17:44:13 No no, two is still true :V 2012-09-17T17:44:22 Look at Jappix Mini for example, it’s a facebook-chat-like XMPP client, and I think “normal users” are its targets. 2012-09-17T17:44:29 @whatis internet 2012-09-17T17:44:29 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> DeltaSierra4: Error: No factoid matches that key. 2012-09-17T17:44:31 Hmm 2012-09-17T17:44:43 QQ IT is also a thing 2012-09-17T17:44:49 Kyo uses that one 2012-09-17T17:44:51 :V 2012-09-17T17:44:57 lol but u get spammed with random sex chats 2012-09-17T17:45:01 ^ 2012-09-17T17:45:04 This is true 2012-09-17T17:45:05 But QQ is as closed as skype, right? :| 2012-09-17T17:45:12 ^ true 2012-09-17T17:45:12 Yeah, it is tbh 2012-09-17T17:46:26 Currently there are only two usable standard protocols for chat, that is IRC and XMPP. 2012-09-17T17:56:14 I gtg, see you guys later 2012-09-17T17:56:15 \o 2012-09-17T17:56:19 \o 2012-09-17T17:56:19 *** Nazeo|College has quit IRC 2012-09-17T18:03:10 *** DeltaSierra4 has quit IRC 2012-09-17T18:04:44 That webchat reminds me Candy a lot. 2012-09-17T18:04:57 I think I installed one somewhere, let me find it again… 2012-09-17T18:05:27 Oh yeah, it was on my laptop, here: http://candy.linkmauve.fr/ 2012-09-17T18:05:28 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Candy - Chats are not dead yet (at candy.linkmauve.fr) 2012-09-17T18:05:29 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T18:12:44 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-09-17T18:17:49 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T18:35:56 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T18:45:06 *** DeltaSierra4 has quit IRC 2012-09-17T18:53:07 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T20:20:49 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T20:44:46 *** Sosso has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T21:06:53 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-09-17T21:10:41 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T21:53:35 *** Sosso has quit IRC 2012-09-17T22:09:10 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-09-17T22:14:08 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T22:50:10 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T22:57:55 *** gin has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T23:08:56 *** gin has quit IRC 2012-09-17T23:11:39 *** GGzeOuf has joined #thcrap 2012-09-17T23:17:54 *** GGzeOuf has quit IRC 2012-09-17T23:31:34 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC