2012-08-20T00:02:51  <fsvgm777> Hopefully, I won't have to compile dependencies myself.
2012-08-20T00:03:03  <fsvgm777> (in Fedora, that is)
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2012-08-20T01:41:46  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-20T01:41:52  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-08-20T01:42:12  <Nazeo|Ipod> How harks it?
2012-08-20T01:45:21  <Nmlgc> Instead of danmaku removal, the PoFV patch will come with traditional "cheating" settings:
2012-08-20T01:46:29  <Nmlgc> 1 "real" life, stages always start at the last life and with a filled bomb gauge, enemy characters are locked in place and infinite continues.
2012-08-20T01:46:29  <Nazeo|Ipod> Changing your approach?
2012-08-20T01:46:36  <Nmlgc> That should make dialog testing easy enough.
2012-08-20T01:46:49  <Nazeo|Ipod> Sounds good
2012-08-20T01:48:05  <Nmlgc> Aside from that, I thought of two tasks for you if you are bored.
2012-08-20T01:48:22  <Nazeo|Ipod> I'll take em
2012-08-20T01:48:59  <Nmlgc> 1. You could make a nice translation tutorial for thpatch.net, complete with little screenshots of everything.
2012-08-20T01:49:35  <Nmlgc> 2. You could search the Distant Phantasm releases for good "trailer music"
2012-08-20T01:49:36  <Nazeo|Ipod> Ok, cool I can do that.
2012-08-20T01:50:04  <Nazeo|Ipod> Look for DP for trailer, understood
2012-08-20T01:50:35  <Nazeo|Ipod> For the trailer, what sort of "tone" are you looking for?
2012-08-20T01:51:44  <Nazeo|Ipod> As in, what sort of adjectives you would like people to think of when hearing the trailer music
2012-08-20T01:52:12  <Nmlgc> Well, I'm not too sure... damn, you're right, this could mean that anything could fit
2012-08-20T01:52:41  <Nazeo|Ipod> I could always send u stuff in DB and have you choose that way
2012-08-20T01:53:45  <Nmlgc> OK.
2012-08-20T01:54:28  <Nmlgc> Hmm. Search for something that gradually builds up in intensity, then dies down at the end.
2012-08-20T01:55:02  <Nazeo|Ipod> Noted
2012-08-20T01:55:15  <Nmlgc> The first trailer won't be longer than a minute, most tracks are probably longer
2012-08-20T01:55:41  <Nazeo|Ipod> Okies, I'll keep that in mind
2012-08-20T01:56:10  <Nmlgc> So I'll just cut the track as I need it. This build-up part can thus be anywhere in the song
2012-08-20T01:56:37  <Nazeo|Ipod> Yup, got it
2012-08-20T01:57:04  <Nmlgc> Also, please no Septette, U.N. Owen or Ten Desires after Stage 3, but I guess that's obvious anyway :-)
2012-08-20T01:57:54  <Nazeo|Ipod> Don't worry, I respect you far too much to do that to you
2012-08-20T01:58:46  <Nmlgc> It might be a bit too early to look for music right now, but I figured it'd be the best you can do until you have a new comp
2012-08-20T01:58:59  <TonyUK> lol UN Owen happens to be my fav theme
2012-08-20T01:59:03  <TonyUK> and hello o/
2012-08-20T01:59:08  <TonyUK> :)
2012-08-20T01:59:24  <Nazeo|Ipod> Don't worry Nmglc, this will get done.
2012-08-20T02:33:33  <Nazeo|Ipod> brb
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2012-08-20T03:10:46  <Nazeo|Ipod> And back.
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2012-08-20T08:06:40  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Going to bed.
2012-08-20T08:06:44  <Nazeo|Ipod_> \o
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2012-08-20T11:17:56  <fsvgm777> Urgh. 27C in the room I'm in... Desperately waiting for the thunderstorm(s)...
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2012-08-20T18:02:43  <RemiShama> Hiiii :3
2012-08-20T18:03:12  <Nazeo|Ipod> Hi there!
2012-08-20T18:03:18  <Nazeo|Ipod> =w=
2012-08-20T18:03:34  <RemiShama> Hi Nazeo :3
2012-08-20T18:03:41  <Nazeo|Ipod> So, was MotK any more helpful for you?
2012-08-20T18:03:50  <RemiShama> Yeeeep *-*
2012-08-20T18:03:56  <RemiShama> Im so happy now, yay
2012-08-20T18:04:22  <RemiShama> I need only to resolve a crash in TD and I have done >.<
2012-08-20T18:05:18  <Nazeo|Ipod> Yay!
2012-08-20T18:05:35  <RemiShama> Yep *-*
2012-08-20T18:05:56  <RemiShama> It was so easy... o_o Im a stupid lol
2012-08-20T18:06:58  <Nazeo|Ipod> Aw, ur fine
2012-08-20T18:07:13  <Nazeo|Ipod> MotK just tends to be painfully blunt
2012-08-20T18:08:06  <RemiShama> Ah x'D
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2012-08-20T20:43:37  <fsvgm777> Nmlgc, I got good and bad news about Fedora 17 in VMWare.
2012-08-20T20:44:04  <fsvgm777> The good news: 3D acceleration works in Fedora 17 (I didn't even have to install anything).
2012-08-20T20:44:47  <fsvgm777> The bad news: I'm unable to install VMWare Tools (unable to start services, fails to compile some components).
2012-08-20T20:46:15  <fsvgm777> But! I have a Windows 2000 VM on my harddrive with VMWare Tools installed.
2012-08-20T20:47:21  <Nmlgc> What do you need the VMWare Tools for?
2012-08-20T20:47:31  <fsvgm777> To copy the files over to the VM.
2012-08-20T20:48:23  <fsvgm777> ...I hope I didn't break my Fedora install, though.
2012-08-20T20:48:41  <fsvgm777> Nope. (phew)
2012-08-20T20:49:27  <fsvgm777> So basically, I'm using the Windows 2000 VM to copy the files to a virtual hard disk shared by both Windows 2000 and Fedora.
2012-08-20T21:03:35  <fsvgm777> ...Wait.
2012-08-20T21:04:01  <fsvgm777> I can actually drag and drop files into the Fedora VM?
2012-08-20T21:04:13  <fsvgm777> I thought it failed!
2012-08-20T21:09:49  <fsvgm777> ..guess I won't need the other virtual hard disk at all!
2012-08-20T21:35:10  <fsvgm777> So... PCB works in Wine, but...
2012-08-20T21:35:13  <fsvgm777> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64600169/Fedora-2012-08-20-21-32-09.png
2012-08-20T21:35:24  <fsvgm777> That might be an issue on my end, though.
2012-08-20T21:36:12  <fsvgm777> [fsvgm777@fedra-vmw th7]$ LANG="ja_JP.UTF-8" wine th07.exe
2012-08-20T21:36:12  <fsvgm777> fixme:d3d:wined3d_guess_card No card selector available for GL vendor 0x4 and card vendor 0000 (using GL_RENDERER "Gallium 0.4 on SVGA3D; build: RELEASE;  ").
2012-08-20T21:36:12  <fsvgm777> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x33f8f0,0x00000000), stub!
2012-08-20T21:37:40  <Nmlgc> Hmm, how about other games?
2012-08-20T21:39:20  <fsvgm777> Lemme try EoSD.
2012-08-20T21:41:08  <fsvgm777> Basically the same there as well.
2012-08-20T21:41:57  <fsvgm777> http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/File:Linux_Th07_01.png <- And PCB is supposed to run like this under Wine.
2012-08-20T21:41:58  <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: File:Linux Th07 01.png - Touhou Wiki - Characters, games, locations, and more (at en.touhouwiki.net)
2012-08-20T21:42:31  <Nmlgc> Well, the patcher generates a lot of command-line output. If that shows up correctly, everything else should work too
2012-08-20T21:46:18  <fsvgm777> As long as the games still work in Windows 7, I don't care too much.
2012-08-20T21:47:52  <fsvgm777> At least the games still work properly in Windows.
2012-08-20T21:55:18  <Nmlgc> Huh, http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/ is offline?
2012-08-20T21:55:20  <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: 1GBレンタルサーバー・プロバイダー Amusement BiG-NET | www16.big.or.jp/~zun/ (at www16.big.or.jp)
2012-08-20T21:56:19  <fsvgm777> I wonder if other sites hosted on big.or.jp are offline as well.
2012-08-20T21:59:25  <Nmlgc> Doesn't look like it.
2012-08-20T22:04:05  <fsvgm777> I wonder if 3D acceleration in VirtualBox is any better than the one in VMWare...
2012-08-20T22:15:47  <fsvgm777> Y'know what? I feel like testing some more.
2012-08-20T22:19:31  <fsvgm777> Know what I like about VirtualBox? It can load VMWare hard disks, so I won't have to do some reinstalling.
2012-08-20T22:41:18  <Nmlgc> http://thpatch.net/previews/thcrap_th13_it_preview.zip << Here's the latest patcher build for th13, if you want to try it
2012-08-20T22:41:59  <Nmlgc> (might need root privileges to work)
2012-08-20T22:45:34  <fsvgm777> [fsvgm777@fedra-vmw th7]$ lang="ja_JP.UTF8" wine th07.exe
2012-08-20T22:45:34  <fsvgm777> err:wgl:glxdrv_wglCreateContext Cannot get FB Config for iPixelFormat 0, expect problems!
2012-08-20T22:45:35  <fsvgm777> err:d3d:InitAdapters Failed to get a gl context for default adapter
2012-08-20T22:45:35  <fsvgm777> Direct3D8 is not available without OpenGL.
2012-08-20T22:45:41  <fsvgm777> (from VirtualBox)
2012-08-20T22:45:53  <fsvgm777> And yet I have 3D acceleration enabled.
2012-08-20T22:47:23  <fsvgm777> Also, Wine under root is formally not recommended.
2012-08-20T22:48:04  <fsvgm777> Just saying.
2012-08-20T22:48:32  <Nmlgc> I'm aware, but there doesn't seem any other way that enables applications to run without debugging privileges.
2012-08-20T22:49:21  <Nmlgc> *with debugging privileges
2012-08-20T22:50:07  <Nmlgc> They must have disabled this fairly recently, it still worked some weeks ago.
2012-08-20T23:11:29  <fsvgm777> The game just doesn't run, not even as root.
2012-08-20T23:12:32  <Nmlgc> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"th13.exe" failed, status c0000022
2012-08-20T23:12:39  <Nmlgc> Something like this?
2012-08-20T23:12:50  <fsvgm777> No, something like this:
2012-08-20T23:12:52  <fsvgm777> [root@fedra-vmw th13]# lang="ja_JP.UTF8" wine thcrap_loader_th13.exe th13.exe
2012-08-20T23:12:52  <fsvgm777> Dump game data as it's loaded? (y/N)
2012-08-20T23:12:52  <fsvgm777> Enable danmaku removal or other cheating settings for quick testing? (Y/n)
2012-08-20T23:12:52  <fsvgm777> Starting EXE at th13.exe.
2012-08-20T23:12:52  <fsvgm777> [root@fedra-vmw th13]#
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2012-08-20T23:13:12  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-20T23:13:20  <Nmlgc> That's a directory issue. Try the full path to th13.exe.
2012-08-20T23:13:24  <fsvgm777> Unless it's because I'm still on VirtualBox...
2012-08-20T23:13:40  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-08-20T23:14:09  <fsvgm777> No dice.
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2012-08-20T23:18:10  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-20T23:18:12  <Nmlgc> Hmm. I'll add some more command-line output later.
2012-08-20T23:19:30  <Nazeo|Ipod> To Nmglc: Going to the Library later to give you the stuff I feel is decent for the trailer
2012-08-20T23:20:13  <Nmlgc> OK, thanks
2012-08-20T23:21:34  * Nazeo|Ipod will probably make an HTML doc for all the music listings.
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2012-08-20T23:27:26  <Nazeo|Ipod_> And my IPod feels the need to kick me out during music listening...
2012-08-20T23:29:09  <fsvgm777> Tried the th13 loader in Windows 7 x64, and... it just instantly crashes.
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2012-08-20T23:29:43  <Nmlgc> Before or after starting the game EXE?
2012-08-20T23:29:53  <fsvgm777> Shortly after.
2012-08-20T23:30:16  <fsvgm777> It's not a problem with the game, since it opens just fine.
2012-08-20T23:31:37  <Nmlgc> OK, then I know what's wrong. I just read about that yesterday, it's because of address space layout randomization.
2012-08-20T23:32:07  <Nmlgc> And I was too lazy to fix it, because it always worked fine on Nazeo's Win7 -.-
2012-08-20T23:33:00  <Nazeo|Ipod_> U mean my vista :P
2012-08-20T23:33:15  <Nmlgc> Yup. :-)
2012-08-20T23:33:41  <fsvgm777> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64600169/sdlh.png <- These are the last few lines of output.
2012-08-20T23:35:02  <Nmlgc> Right, that looks exactly like the bug I thought of.
2012-08-20T23:35:30  <fsvgm777> It's always at the same "EIP"
2012-08-20T23:37:30  <Nmlgc> Under XP,  kernel functions (like the DLL loader called here) are always located at constant addresses
2012-08-20T23:38:03  <fsvgm777> I wonder if RemiShama was ever struck by that.
2012-08-20T23:38:07  <fsvgm777> Probably not.
2012-08-20T23:38:22  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Hmmm
2012-08-20T23:38:42  <Nazeo|Ipod_> She mentioned _something_ about that, but it could be unrelated
2012-08-20T23:42:12  <fsvgm777> C:\th13>thcrap_loader_th13.exe th13.exe
2012-08-20T23:42:12  <fsvgm777> Dump game data as it's loaded? (y/N) n
2012-08-20T23:42:12  <fsvgm777> Enable danmaku removal or other cheating settings for quick testing? (Y/n)
2012-08-20T23:42:12  <fsvgm777> Starting EXE at th13.exe.
2012-08-20T23:42:12  <fsvgm777> C:\th13>
2012-08-20T23:42:45  <fsvgm777> I think the loader expects a drag-n-drop rather than running directly from command line.
2012-08-20T23:43:35  <fsvgm777> ..except when I include the full path to th13.exe.
2012-08-20T23:44:35  <Nmlgc> Actually, the loader shouldn't be put in the game directory.
2012-08-20T23:45:15  <fsvgm777> Yeah, I realised.