2012-08-19T00:00:07  <Nmlgc> Then... the problem with Adonis is not because of some server (it doesn't use one anyway, it's completely peer-to-peer), but the fact that it does code injection via an external loader as well
2012-08-19T00:00:37  <Nazeo|Library> Does Hamachi do this as well?
2012-08-19T00:05:18  <fsvgm777> Hmm... If I want the games to work better in Wine, I'd need the DLLs from C:\Windows\SysWOW64, because I'm on a 64-bit Windows.
2012-08-19T00:05:27  <Nmlgc> No, that's a VPN client which establishes internet connects that look like LAN connections to other programs
2012-08-19T00:05:42  <fsvgm777> I'll look into this... later today (it's past midnight)
2012-08-19T00:06:37  <Nazeo|Library> \o
2012-08-19T00:06:43  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-08-19T00:07:12  <Nazeo|Library> To Nmlgc: Sounds dreadful. :/
2012-08-19T00:08:12  <Nmlgc> In other words, it's used for games with multi-player support over LAN, but not over Internet, and PoFV doesn't have LAN support (at least as far as I know)
2012-08-19T00:09:45  <Nmlgc> The best way to deal with this would be to implement thcrap fully as a wrapper around a system DLL, like I did with the Vorbis compressor
2012-08-19T00:09:49  <fsvgm777> You know what's cool when you have the VMWare Guest additions installed on the guest? You can simply drag and drop files into the guest, which is much easier than setting a shared folder, to be honest.
2012-08-19T00:10:06  <fsvgm777> (tested on Windows VMs)
2012-08-19T00:10:32  <Nazeo|Library> To Nmlgc: Wow! Soon Thcrap will be able to do anything :D
2012-08-19T00:10:59  <Nmlgc> fsvgm777: Nice, didn't know that worked
2012-08-19T00:11:23  <fsvgm777> It only works on VMWare, not VirtualBox or Virtual PC.
2012-08-19T00:11:35  <fsvgm777> (which is why I only mentioned VMWare)
2012-08-19T00:11:36  <Nazeo|Library> 8 mins b4 I get kicked off...
2012-08-19T00:11:48  <Nazeo|Library> Then, I must use Ipod
2012-08-19T00:11:54  * Nazeo|Library shudders at the thought
2012-08-19T00:12:08  <Nmlgc> Nazeo: The problem is just that the Win32 debug API (and the whole breakpoint stuff) doesn't work without a second process
2012-08-19T00:13:01  <Nmlgc> It _may_ be possible to emulate this by assembling some jumps at run-time
2012-08-19T00:13:15  * Nazeo|Library whistles
2012-08-19T00:13:19  <Nazeo|Library> Never thought of that
2012-08-19T00:13:46  <Nmlgc> I only got the idea yesterday too.
2012-08-19T00:15:03  <fsvgm777> Anyway, going to bed. Good night.
2012-08-19T00:15:07  <Nazeo|Library> \o
2012-08-19T00:15:09  <Nmlgc> In fact, if the patcher really doesn't work on Linux consistently, I have to change the strategy to this one.
2012-08-19T00:15:10  <Nmlgc> \o
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2012-08-19T00:15:52  <Nmlgc> Tsearch... that's some bad download link right there -.-
2012-08-19T00:16:04  <Nazeo|Library> Yeah... sorry about that
2012-08-19T00:16:17  <Nazeo|Library> I wasn't a fan of it to begin with
2012-08-19T00:16:30  <Nmlgc> But from what I get, it's basically the same as Cheat Engine, another tool I use occasionally.
2012-08-19T00:16:37  <Nazeo|Library> U are correct
2012-08-19T00:17:41  <Nmlgc> I don't need it that often, just to search for stuff that can't be found by looking for Win32 system calls or text strings.
2012-08-19T00:17:54  <Nazeo|Library> (2 mins)
2012-08-19T00:18:02  <Nazeo|Library> Oh, I see
2012-08-19T00:18:06  <Nazeo|Library> 1 min
2012-08-19T00:18:19  <Nmlgc> Well then, see you on iPod :-)
2012-08-19T00:18:24  <Nazeo|Library> \o
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2012-08-19T00:34:26  <Nazeo|Ipod> Back, so in conclusion I found stuff you basically use already. FTW =w=
2012-08-19T00:34:53  <Nmlgc> Pretty much.
2012-08-19T00:37:42  <Nazeo|Ipod> In that case, I'll just keep researching. After all, that's all I can do really with it. :/
2012-08-19T00:37:59  <Nazeo|Ipod> I'll have to look for a new comp very soon
2012-08-19T00:38:20  <Nmlgc> I... don't really think that I need any more hacking tools for the job.
2012-08-19T00:39:01  <Nazeo|Ipod> Oh no, not tools
2012-08-19T00:39:34  <Nmlgc> The only really interesting things in that regard would be Touhou-related hacking "achievements" by other people
2012-08-19T00:39:56  <Nazeo|Ipod> Oh ok. I could do that
2012-08-19T00:41:20  <Nazeo|Ipod> I think u are in that list more than once :3
2012-08-19T00:42:07  <Nmlgc> Because I know how to sell myself :-)
2012-08-19T00:42:24  <Nazeo|Ipod> XD
2012-08-19T00:50:47  <Nmlgc> In other news, PoFV has the most ridiculous programming so far.
2012-08-19T00:51:33  * Nazeo|Ipod wonders if PoDD is the same way
2012-08-19T00:52:17  <Nmlgc> First that loading function layout, and now a loading thread lock that prevents the game from going to the title screen after a correct file injection
2012-08-19T00:52:38  <Nazeo|Ipod> What?!
2012-08-19T00:53:08  <Nazeo|Ipod> That's wierd, why would it have to do that?
2012-08-19T00:54:34  <Nmlgc> Simple. The game needs more threads to handle the loading, or else it couldn't display the loading animation or handle window controls like moving the window
2012-08-19T00:55:47  <Nazeo|Ipod> Hmm... Are the two windows on each players side "synchronized?"
2012-08-19T00:56:16  <Nazeo|Ipod> Otherwise, the game would handle just like one abeilt with two windows.
2012-08-19T00:56:44  <Nmlgc> That's... an entirely different matter, I don't know what you mean by that?
2012-08-19T00:57:36  <Nmlgc> (I was referring to moving the whole game window by dragging its title bar)
2012-08-19T00:58:24  <Nazeo|Ipod> If this is because the games needs more threads for both windows, then the solution would be have threads such as the fairies and such to share the same code in order to save space.
2012-08-19T00:59:02  * Nazeo|Ipod wonders if the disabling the lock is a bad idea
2012-08-19T00:59:15  <Nmlgc> And I wonder the same.
2012-08-19T00:59:22  <Nmlgc> Can't hurt to try.
2012-08-19T00:59:34  <Nazeo|Ipod> Oh, I was talking about in game
2012-08-19T00:59:47  <Nazeo|Ipod> (stupid IPod!)
2012-08-19T01:04:34  <Nmlgc> Hmm, PoFV has built-in netplay in v1.50a. Maybe all of this is some deliberate anti-cheating measure?
2012-08-19T01:05:01  <Nmlgc> (That netplay is said to suck though, hence why everyone uses Adonis)
2012-08-19T01:05:21  <Nazeo|Ipod> Right, that's true
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2012-08-19T01:10:56  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-19T01:11:24  <Myrtle> the fuck.
2012-08-19T01:11:39  <Nazeo|Ipod> ?
2012-08-19T01:11:45  <Myrtle> what was my quit message
2012-08-19T01:11:53  <Myrtle> oh wait
2012-08-19T01:11:55  <Myrtle> it's still there wtf
2012-08-19T01:12:04  <Nazeo|Ipod> It'll time out
2012-08-19T01:12:28  <Myrtle> i hate freenode
2012-08-19T01:12:35  <Nazeo|Ipod> Or, Nmglc can give it a hand in leaving
2012-08-19T01:12:57  <Nazeo|Ipod> I'm sorry to hear that ^_^;;
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2012-08-19T01:14:59  <Nazeo|Ipod> There we go, all better~
2012-08-19T01:15:15  <Myrtle> that was quick
2012-08-19T01:33:18  <Nazeo|Ipod> Oh Myrtle, did u find anyone to play Soku with?
2012-08-19T01:33:40  <Myrtle> nope
2012-08-19T01:33:52  <Nazeo|Ipod> :<
2012-08-19T01:34:44  <Nazeo|Ipod> There was a channel on Rizon that once did matches, but I think it's dead now
2012-08-19T01:35:08  <Myrtle> #hisouten or something
2012-08-19T01:35:13  <Myrtle> yeah those are the pros or something
2012-08-19T01:35:31  <Nazeo|Ipod> Oh my~
2012-08-19T01:35:52  <Nazeo|Ipod> Kyori would have played with you if he was here today
2012-08-19T01:36:05  <Myrtle> i'm just under lunatic level sooooo
2012-08-19T01:36:37  <Nazeo|Ipod> I don't even place :P
2012-08-19T01:36:46  <Myrtle> you don't play soku?
2012-08-19T01:37:17  <Nazeo|Ipod> Not exactly; I just suck
2012-08-19T01:37:24  <Myrtle> aww
2012-08-19T01:37:27  <Nmlgc> And I was successfully indoctrinated by Mizuumi to hate everything that is not IaMP
2012-08-19T01:37:31  <Nazeo|Ipod> This happens with most games lol
2012-08-19T01:37:49  <Nazeo|Ipod> Eh?
2012-08-19T01:38:01  <Nazeo|Ipod> That must have been quite the feat!
2012-08-19T01:38:35  <Myrtle> hmm
2012-08-19T01:38:46  <Myrtle> oh
2012-08-19T01:38:48  <Myrtle> iamp :|
2012-08-19T01:39:02  <Myrtle> yeah that's a bitch to play at first
2012-08-19T01:39:17  <Nazeo|Ipod> Things were floaty
2012-08-19T01:41:11  <Nmlgc> Compared to that, SWR/Soku just feels like they thought "OK, let's throw the girls across the screen as easily and spectacularly as possible, gameplay mechanics are secondary"
2012-08-19T01:41:47  <Myrtle> in soku it's easier to die
2012-08-19T01:42:20  <Nmlgc> Well, I'm not here to _play_ Touhou anyway
2012-08-19T01:42:54  <Nazeo|Ipod> :P
2012-08-19T01:43:22  <Myrtle> durr
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2012-08-19T02:09:53  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-19T02:18:34  <Shiizendame> hi there.
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2012-08-19T03:05:19  <Nazeo|Ipod> Ab
2012-08-19T03:05:24  <Nazeo|Ipod> ...
2012-08-19T03:05:31  <Nazeo|Ipod> *Wb
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2012-08-19T03:06:57  <Nazeo|Ipod> And Wb to u, Ibaraki
2012-08-19T03:08:14  <Ibaraki_Ibuki> good to be back
2012-08-19T03:09:14  <Nazeo|Ipod> :D
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2012-08-19T03:37:19  <Nazeo|Ipod> after doing some reading... I was left confused
2012-08-19T03:37:50  <Nazeo|Ipod> Didn't MotK (and other such places) spring from Poosh?
2012-08-19T03:39:48  <Nmlgc> Don't know, but that seems highly unlikely...
2012-08-19T03:40:08  <Nazeo|Ipod> Hmm...
2012-08-19T03:40:37  <Nazeo|Ipod> I just can't see why they can't get along...
2012-08-19T03:41:04  <Nmlgc> If only there was some wiki where they could describe their histories...
2012-08-19T03:41:18  <Nazeo|Ipod> If only...
2012-08-19T03:41:24  <Nmlgc> But well, such things probably constitute as "non-articles"
2012-08-19T03:42:27  <Nazeo|Ipod> ...
2012-08-19T03:42:55  <Nazeo|Ipod> Namespace of Touho Wiki: are not applicable?
2012-08-19T03:43:13  <Nazeo|Ipod> Cuz I can't spell...
2012-08-19T03:43:21  * Nazeo|Ipod facedesks
2012-08-19T03:45:57  <Nazeo|Ipod> ...? This now just became relevant to me
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2012-08-19T03:47:07  <Nazeo|Ipod_> .....
2012-08-19T03:48:25  <Nazeo|Ipod_> But yeah, I found a person who suffered much like I did for trying to have "good intentions"
2012-08-19T03:48:35  <Nazeo|Ipod_> I think I will talk to them
2012-08-19T03:48:43  <Nazeo|Ipod_> ...When I have a comp
2012-08-19T03:48:49  <Nazeo|Ipod_> And not this thing
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2012-08-19T03:56:59  <Nmlgc> Woo, looks like I have to take back what I said about PoFV's code.
2012-08-19T03:57:26  <Nmlgc> I was simply jumping too far, directly over the lock release code
2012-08-19T03:58:16  <Nmlgc> So yeah, it works now
2012-08-19T03:58:16  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Yay, glad you figured it out!
2012-08-19T03:58:23  <Nazeo|Ipod_> =w=
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2012-08-19T04:00:53  <Nmlgc1> Which means that the TD text box things remains the most ridiculous problem I had to solve yet
2012-08-19T04:01:35  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Oh, but I thought u fixed those
2012-08-19T04:01:49  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Unless u are stating that in the past tense
2012-08-19T04:02:20  <Nmlgc1> That past tense wasn't obvious? -.-
2012-08-19T04:02:24  * Nazeo|Ipod_ is slow
2012-08-19T04:02:26  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Sorry
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2012-08-19T04:03:00  <Nmlgc1> You're right.
2012-08-19T04:03:04  <Nmlgc1> *I have had to solve yet
2012-08-19T04:04:33  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Let's not worry about our grammerz :P
2012-08-19T04:05:15  <Nmlgc1> But I should. It's stuff like this that costs me precious points at school
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2012-08-19T04:07:11  <Nmlgc> The problem was that the drawing font is only ever selected immediately before the rendering call, and then immediately unselected, leaving the default system font in its place
2012-08-19T04:07:48  <Nmlgc> This is not even ZUN's fault in particular; the Microsoft docs explicitly recommend this approach
2012-08-19T04:08:16  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Hmm...
2012-08-19T04:08:40  <Nmlgc> By the time we calculated the box width, we always did it using the system font
2012-08-19T04:09:04  <Nmlgc> So there never were "working" and "not working" fonts, only such that were closer to the system font
2012-08-19T04:09:53  <Nmlgc> The solution just was to ignore setting the system font at all times
2012-08-19T04:10:13  <Nmlgc> And it took me three weeks (including motivation loss) to get this -.-
2012-08-19T04:10:42  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Wow, what an odd protocol...
2012-08-19T04:11:01  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Aw, at least u got it
2012-08-19T04:14:10  <Nmlgc> :-)
2012-08-19T04:15:11  <Nmlgc> OK, the best adjective to describe PoFV's code is "wasteful"
2012-08-19T04:15:32  <Nmlgc> For example, it re-loads the font every time it renders text
2012-08-19T04:16:07  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Does  "repetitive" work?
2012-08-19T04:16:16  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Oh, it does?
2012-08-19T04:17:40  <Nazeo|Ipod_> Hold that thought, switching locations...
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2012-08-19T04:44:04  <Nazeo|Ipod> Sorry for running out on u :(
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2012-08-19T05:01:04  <Guest11936> Curse u, nick serv
2012-08-19T05:02:00  <Guest11936> Brb.
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2012-08-19T06:32:46  <Nazeo|Ipod> Just saying I'm turning in for the night
2012-08-19T06:32:58  <Nazeo|Ipod> \o
2012-08-19T06:33:01  <Nmlgc> OK. Nite! \o
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2012-08-19T10:34:27  <fsvgm777> Urgh. They forecast up to 39C now...
2012-08-19T10:52:42  <Nmlgc> Huh. Which means it's high time I went to bed now...
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2012-08-19T19:13:27  <fsvgm777> Compiling updated software on openSUSE just because it's not available on the repo = so much fun (not really).
2012-08-19T19:18:38  <fsvgm777> And I arrived at the most crucial step of the vmwgfx kernel module installation.
2012-08-19T19:20:51  <fsvgm777> [10052.226014] [vmwgfx] Detected device 3D availability.
2012-08-19T19:20:51  <fsvgm777> [10052.226402] [vmwgfx] Initialized vmwgfx 2.4.0 20120209 for 0000:00:0f.0 on minor 0
2012-08-19T19:21:00  <fsvgm777> I did it!
2012-08-19T19:21:21  <Nmlgc> Yay.
2012-08-19T19:21:39  <fsvgm777> Now I need to restart...
2012-08-19T19:22:13  <fsvgm777> And pray it boots up.
2012-08-19T19:25:33  <fsvgm777> ...yet I don't have hardware acceleration.
2012-08-19T19:48:27  <fsvgm777> I find it a bit weird seing the output of make in French rather than English (then again, I installed openSUSE in French).
2012-08-19T20:33:54  <fsvgm777> Sigh... Seems like I can't get 3D acceleration to work in the VM...
2012-08-19T20:34:05  <fsvgm777> (even though I did all the steps)
2012-08-19T20:42:44  <fsvgm777> Maybe tomorrow, I'll lose even more time with this.
2012-08-19T20:48:20  <Nmlgc> Ah, OK. It's fine, I'll just test with some live CDs then.
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2012-08-19T21:34:28  <RemiShama> Ehi
2012-08-19T21:34:35  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-08-19T21:34:37  <RemiShama> Everytime that I update the theme database
2012-08-19T21:34:42  <RemiShama> All translation goes away ._. Why?
2012-08-19T21:35:40  <Nmlgc> thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=themedb&language=it&limit=100&task=view << Hmm, it's all there
2012-08-19T21:36:32  <RemiShama> That strange ._. Because on the home I always update and everytime I lost all
2012-08-19T21:36:33  <RemiShama> And there is all, fuck.
2012-08-19T21:36:43  <RemiShama> *there is
2012-08-19T21:37:28  <Nmlgc> You probably have "Mostra solo i messaggi non tradotti" selected in the group field? :-)
2012-08-19T21:37:52  <RemiShama> Ehm I dont know
2012-08-19T21:38:05  <RemiShama> I have "Mostra tutti i messaggi"
2012-08-19T21:38:08  <RemiShama> Boh... .-.
2012-08-19T21:43:13  <Nmlgc> Also, you don't need to copy that {{lang|en}} stuff every time.
2012-08-19T21:44:03  <RemiShama> Ah, and that I need to insert? °-°
2012-08-19T21:44:38  <Nmlgc> Instead of putting, for example, {{lang|en|Altamente Responsiva alle Preghiere}}, just put Altamente Responsiva alle Preghiere
2012-08-19T21:48:27  <RemiShama> Aaaah, okkey x°
2012-08-19T21:48:53  <RemiShama> I have saw that code in the original source and I have thinked that is important...
2012-08-19T21:51:17  <Nmlgc> It's just necessary for browsers to select a better font when displaying English text in Japanese titles.
2012-08-19T22:05:01  <RemiShama> Ah okkey
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2012-08-19T23:57:04  <fsvgm777> I think I'm going to check if I can get 3D acceleration to work in Fedora 17 (in VMWare) tomorrow.