2012-06-30T00:03:55 2012-06-29T03:23:51 [...] <- go upgrade your Winamp <- The problem is that I'm already using Winamp 5.63 (which is the latest one). 2012-06-30T00:04:35 (and I'm using a non-Japanese locale, mind you) 2012-06-30T00:06:05 2012-06-30T00:08:47 *** fsvgm777 has quit IRC 2012-06-30T00:23:46 *** Shiizendame has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T00:40:49 *** Shiizendame has quit IRC 2012-06-30T00:46:31 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T00:57:10 *** Shiizendame has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T00:59:43 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T01:01:48 hey Nazeo, 2012-06-30T01:01:51 guess what? 2012-06-30T01:02:00 dad installed NAOMI again in my PC. 2012-06-30T01:02:05 O.O 2012-06-30T01:02:12 How'd did he find out? 2012-06-30T01:02:26 hm, maybe because he didn't see it in the toolbar. 2012-06-30T01:02:31 but I already deleted it. 2012-06-30T01:02:33 hmmm... 2012-06-30T01:02:34 lol 2012-06-30T01:02:40 We can always just have the pass 2012-06-30T01:02:55 if he sees it's not there, it's possible that he starts suspecting of me... 2012-06-30T01:03:12 on that case, I can tell him my PC is deleting programs randomly. 2012-06-30T01:03:17 because it seriously has. 2012-06-30T01:03:30 it has uninstalled dropbox 5 times without my permission. 2012-06-30T01:03:33 Good, was about to ask if he would buy that 2012-06-30T01:03:44 * Nazeo yawns 2012-06-30T01:03:50 I've been up all day 2012-06-30T01:03:53 Doing stuff 2012-06-30T01:04:06 ok. 2012-06-30T01:04:11 I won't bother you, then. 2012-06-30T01:04:13 ? 2012-06-30T01:04:14 No no 2012-06-30T01:04:18 U not borthering me 2012-06-30T01:04:29 oh :V 2012-06-30T02:09:57 Gotta go pick up pizza for my sis 2012-06-30T02:10:08 *** Nazeo is now known as Nazeo|Pizza 2012-06-30T03:00:34 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T03:04:09 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-06-30T03:04:14 *** Ikubi_Ikarabi is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2012-06-30T03:14:02 *** Nazeo|Pizza is now known as Nazeo 2012-06-30T03:14:07 Back 2012-06-30T03:15:25 tha 2012-06-30T03:15:30 *that took long 2012-06-30T03:15:37 It did 2012-06-30T03:15:40 I had to walk 2012-06-30T03:15:46 Cuz someone took my car 2012-06-30T03:15:47 :P 2012-06-30T03:15:52 lol 2012-06-30T03:16:17 hmm. 2012-06-30T03:16:21 oh well. 2012-06-30T03:16:28 It's fine 2012-06-30T03:17:15 so, what flavor is the pizza? 2012-06-30T03:17:30 Sausage 2012-06-30T03:17:42 sweet 2012-06-30T03:17:54 I like that kind of pizza. 2012-06-30T03:17:55 ... 2012-06-30T03:17:58 take care of it. 2012-06-30T03:17:59 As do I 2012-06-30T03:18:01 ? 2012-06-30T03:18:09 Is something going to happen to it? 2012-06-30T03:18:10 maybe I will come... 2012-06-30T03:18:11 and... 2012-06-30T03:18:34 I AM GONNA CLONE IT AND MAKE A RANDOMLY WEIRD ARMY OF SAUSAGE PIZZAS APPEAR 2012-06-30T03:18:37 :> 2012-06-30T03:18:44 O.O 2012-06-30T03:19:10 and then I am gonna give it to the aliens from planet Tatechosei :> 2012-06-30T03:19:18 which are, 2012-06-30T03:19:21 now that I remember, 2012-06-30T03:19:39 allergic to dough, cheese, spices, tomato sauce and sausages... 2012-06-30T03:19:42 Lol 2012-06-30T03:19:43 oh well. 2012-06-30T03:19:44 That's cool 2012-06-30T03:20:05 hooray for intoxicating aliens :> 2012-06-30T03:20:16 \o/ 2012-06-30T03:20:42 ... 2012-06-30T03:20:45 hmm... 2012-06-30T03:20:51 now that I think on it, 2012-06-30T03:21:00 maybe dad will notice NAOMI isn't there... 2012-06-30T03:21:09 I should install it again, just to be sure. 2012-06-30T03:21:11 One can only hope... 2012-06-30T03:21:46 if dad wants to enter it, 2012-06-30T03:21:52 he won't know the password, 2012-06-30T03:21:55 but oh well, 2012-06-30T03:22:02 I am the only one to use my PC 2012-06-30T03:22:21 because it is guarded by wall after wall of mutant alien ninja rabbits :> 2012-06-30T03:23:15 i wish my PC was protected by rabbits :< 2012-06-30T03:23:40 it is. 2012-06-30T03:23:45 you just don't know. 2012-06-30T03:23:46 yet. 2012-06-30T03:23:47 ... 2012-06-30T03:23:51 wait, i just told you, 2012-06-30T03:23:55 that means you know... 2012-06-30T03:23:56 but not of the mutant alien ninja kind? 2012-06-30T03:24:00 no, 2012-06-30T03:24:07 it's guarded by lunarian rabbits. 2012-06-30T03:24:21 not of the warrior kind, 2012-06-30T03:24:22 YES HALLEJUAH 2012-06-30T03:24:29 but those they use as meat shields :> 2012-06-30T03:24:50 Meh 2012-06-30T03:24:55 which have 1 HP and really low DEF and MAG stats. 2012-06-30T03:24:58 Bunnys are useless 2012-06-30T03:25:05 Only useful for their sex appeal 2012-06-30T03:25:06 :P 2012-06-30T03:25:11 also, their ATK is lower than Nazeo's ATK. 2012-06-30T03:25:13 lol jk 2012-06-30T03:25:14 lol 2012-06-30T03:27:02 just installed NAOMI, 2012-06-30T03:27:10 and set the password to default. 2012-06-30T03:27:23 so in case dad says something is wrong with the program, 2012-06-30T03:27:29 when he finds out, 2012-06-30T03:27:40 he won't be suspicious of me. 2012-06-30T03:27:55 Nice 2012-06-30T03:28:32 clever 2012-06-30T03:28:36 now let's just hope he doesn't "experiment" with it. 2012-06-30T03:28:39 hmmm... 2012-06-30T03:29:02 that would mean I will have to set it to "ON" when I( shut own my PC. 2012-06-30T03:29:14 these kind of programs remember what happened on last session. 2012-06-30T03:29:19 so in case he checks, 2012-06-30T03:29:34 he still thinks I can't enter the sites I visit every night >:D 2012-06-30T03:29:35 lol jk 2012-06-30T03:33:23 ... 2012-06-30T03:33:40 I am reading the program's manual file... 2012-06-30T03:34:06 it says the program's name is dedicated to the daughter of a friend, 2012-06-30T03:34:13 whose name is Naomi. 2012-06-30T03:34:26 * Shiizendame goes d'aaaaaaawwwww 2012-06-30T03:34:35 but the porgram is still a bitch. 2012-06-30T03:34:36 >:D 2012-06-30T03:35:48 I see what u did thar 2012-06-30T03:36:07 yay 2012-06-30T05:11:52 *** Shiizendame has quit IRC 2012-06-30T05:20:19 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-06-30T06:42:04 Going to bed 2012-06-30T06:42:05 \o 2012-06-30T06:42:19 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-06-30T07:14:52 *** fsvgm777 has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T07:50:12 *** youmu-chan has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T08:23:33 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has quit IRC 2012-06-30T11:14:45 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T12:24:06 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T12:24:43 hello! o/ 2012-06-30T13:03:24 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-06-30T13:23:09 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T14:11:58 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-06-30T15:46:11 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-06-30T15:53:50 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T15:54:58 *** youmu-chan has quit IRC 2012-06-30T16:05:47 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T16:05:58 \o 2012-06-30T16:06:09 \o 2012-06-30T16:06:30 :/ I'll try to avoid such long absences 2012-06-30T16:06:55 So, good job on the FAQ 2012-06-30T16:06:58 It's fine, things will be a little bit more laid-back in the coming weeks anyway. 2012-06-30T16:07:24 Yeah. You didn't need to search the answers, I planned to write my own ones anyway :-) 2012-06-30T16:08:01 Hmmm 2012-06-30T16:08:14 When you say more laid back, does that include you in it? 2012-06-30T16:09:43 Not... really. It's just that I'm finally going back to the actual patch programming, and much of the progress will be invisible 2012-06-30T16:10:04 :( 2012-06-30T16:10:44 Anyway. Plan for today is to finally wrap up the De data, and then make Ten Desires available 2012-06-30T16:12:07 Okies! 2012-06-30T16:12:22 If I can help, ... you know 2012-06-30T16:12:34 Yeah, I know :-) 2012-06-30T16:12:55 When that's done, we'll need Myrtle to proofread the ruby annotations 2012-06-30T16:13:08 I'll let him know 2012-06-30T16:16:02 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T16:16:20 \o 2012-06-30T16:16:27 \o 2012-06-30T16:17:42 Also yay, thpatch.net main page surpassed 1,000 hits today 2012-06-30T16:18:17 Yay! 2012-06-30T16:18:30 So that means we didn't lose our audience 2012-06-30T16:28:20 *** Shiizendame has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T16:28:33 \o 2012-06-30T16:28:38 hello 2012-06-30T16:32:39 *** Ruusento has quit IRC 2012-06-30T16:33:18 *** Ruusento has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T16:33:24 \o 2012-06-30T16:37:26 *** Ruusento has quit IRC 2012-06-30T16:47:19 *** Ruusento has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T17:11:40 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-06-30T17:20:45 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T17:21:08 Welcome back~ 2012-06-30T17:58:05 fsvgm777> 2012-06-29T03:23:51 [...] <- go upgrade your Winamp <- The problem is that I'm already using Winamp 5.63 (which is the latest one). 2012-06-30T17:58:06 (and I'm using a non-Japanese locale, mind you) 2012-06-30T17:58:12 I also using non Japanese locale 2012-06-30T17:58:19 We are still on this? 2012-06-30T17:58:22 Lol 2012-06-30T17:59:02 Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 zh-tw and Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 zh-tw 2012-06-30T17:59:09 using WinAmp latest version 2012-06-30T17:59:22 no problem of displaying Unicode 2012-06-30T17:59:41 my nose just started randomly bleeding. 2012-06-30T17:59:46 Windows 7 Home Premium x6 Service Pack 2012-06-30T17:59:52 ..goddammit. 2012-06-30T17:59:56 He probably meant "non-CJK locale". 2012-06-30T17:59:59 both x86 2012-06-30T18:00:08 both zh-tw system locale 2012-06-30T18:00:19 even though using zh-tw locale 2012-06-30T18:00:34 system WON'T display properly zh-cn, ja-jp coding word 2012-06-30T18:00:43 unless using UNICODE 2012-06-30T18:00:52 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Service Pack 2 fr-lb locale over here. 2012-06-30T18:00:52 also, your WinAmp skins OUTDATED 2012-06-30T18:01:07 older winamp skins unable to support Unicode 2012-06-30T18:01:18 only skins above 5 can support Unicode 2012-06-30T18:01:24 Uhh... what? 2012-06-30T18:01:29 such as WinAmp own Bento skin 2012-06-30T18:02:08 MEANWHILE, if your MP3 ID3 v2 TAG not in Unicode, not only Winamp, but other players as well MAY NOT PROPERLY RENDERED the info 2012-06-30T18:02:13 go try it yourself 2012-06-30T18:02:16 I don't see Japanese characters in the taskbar, but I do in the main program. 2012-06-30T18:02:33 Well, Winamp never had the reputation of dealing well with Unicode... at least as far as I remember. <- http://i.imgur.com/r5uzy.jpg 2012-06-30T18:02:38 that is my WinAmp skin 2012-06-30T18:02:52 taskbar properly rendered the title 2012-06-30T18:02:57 bottom right 2012-06-30T18:02:58 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki is now known as Iberightbacki 2012-06-30T18:04:01 OK, so things changed in Version 5. Nice, but I still prefer foobar2000 2012-06-30T18:04:13 I get the same regardless of which skin (Bento or not) I use (in the taskbar, I mean). 2012-06-30T18:07:54 then your code page have some problem 2012-06-30T18:08:13 no 2012-06-30T18:08:22 your MP3 ID3 TAG NOT In UNICODE 2012-06-30T18:08:50 your MP3 ID3 v2 TAG info still in native code 2012-06-30T18:09:02 caused your WinAmp unable to render the name properly 2012-06-30T18:12:53 * Nmlgc wishes that MP3 and ID3 just died in a fire already 2012-06-30T18:13:28 ogg FTW? 2012-06-30T18:13:39 Either that or FLAC. 2012-06-30T18:13:55 APE 2012-06-30T18:14:24 I still remember the time when I re-wrote the tagging code for Music Room Interface 2012-06-30T18:14:31 Time to add ID3 support: 5 days 2012-06-30T18:14:37 O.O 2012-06-30T18:14:40 Damn... 2012-06-30T18:14:50 Time to add Vorbis comment tagging for OGG and FLAC: half a day 2012-06-30T18:25:15 * KyoriAsh wishes that MP3 and ID3 just survived in a fire already 2012-06-30T18:25:26 :P 2012-06-30T18:26:21 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T18:26:25 \o 2012-06-30T18:26:44 * Nmlgc confines KyoriAsh, MP3 and ID3 into a ring of fire 2012-06-30T18:26:51 * Nazeo smiles 2012-06-30T18:27:11 There is your comeuppance, Kyo 2012-06-30T18:27:16 * KyoriAsh escaped from the ring of fire and re-confines Nmlgc into a ring of fire 2012-06-30T18:27:31 * Nazeo is confused 2012-06-30T18:27:36 hello! o/ 2012-06-30T18:28:13 hi hi 2012-06-30T18:35:33 *** Iberightbacki is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2012-06-30T19:25:49 so quiet... 2012-06-30T19:26:18 (16:06:58) Nmlgc: It's fine, things will be a little bit more laid-back in the coming weeks anyway. 2012-06-30T19:26:48 oh. 2012-06-30T19:26:49 *** Ibaraki_Ibuki is now known as Iberightbacki 2012-06-30T19:27:59 Want some noice? 2012-06-30T19:28:13 http://trololololololololololo.com/ 2012-06-30T19:28:14 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO (at trololololololololololo.com) 2012-06-30T19:29:30 ._________. 2012-06-30T19:29:33 dat song 2012-06-30T19:30:28 I like it~ 2012-06-30T19:30:31 lol 2012-06-30T19:31:13 some people call it the russian version of the rickroll 2012-06-30T19:31:26 well, russians are supposed to do the things the other way around... 2012-06-30T19:31:28 ...right? 2012-06-30T19:33:26 idk lol 2012-06-30T19:33:39 I don't take this as a joke 2012-06-30T19:33:40 lol 2012-06-30T19:33:47 the other day I saw a video 2012-06-30T19:33:57 about a russian water tap 2012-06-30T19:34:09 that SUCKED water in instead of pouring it out. 2012-06-30T19:34:44 ? 2012-06-30T19:34:45 lol 2012-06-30T19:35:27 and I am sure they didn't put the video to play backwards or something, 2012-06-30T19:35:33 I am sure it was real! 2012-06-30T19:36:06 because EVERYTHING on the internet is real! 2012-06-30T19:36:07 ... 2012-06-30T19:36:09 right? 2012-06-30T19:37:25 lol 2012-06-30T19:48:56 so Nazeo, you helped with touhoumon, but exactly with WHICH version? there are so many... 2012-06-30T19:50:24 *** Iberightbacki is now known as Ibaraki_Ibuki 2012-06-30T21:05:50 I'm back... 2012-06-30T21:05:53 Sorry about that 2012-06-30T21:06:00 My RL is cutting large swathes from my time 2012-06-30T21:06:22 So, for your question 2012-06-30T21:06:35 The one worked on by Aichiya Sanae 2012-06-30T21:07:00 Which is the Touhoumon Another World and... 2012-06-30T21:07:03 One otehr one. 2012-06-30T21:07:26 * Nazeo looks back 2012-06-30T21:07:44 Ah 2012-06-30T21:07:46 World Link 2012-06-30T21:08:21 * Nazeo realizes something 2012-06-30T21:08:39 Oh, I had a lot of involvement in games... 2012-06-30T21:09:42 BoFaR -Blizzard of Faith and Revenge (attracted interested for translation) and Touhou Mother (worked on walkthroughs etc) 2012-06-30T21:10:27 And I got the guy who was doing the English patch for Age of Ethanols to update his patch 2012-06-30T21:10:33 To work with the current games 2012-06-30T21:10:36 :/ 2012-06-30T21:11:37 brb 2012-06-30T21:11:46 kk 2012-06-30T21:54:17 back. 2012-06-30T21:54:22 \o 2012-06-30T21:57:23 o/ 2012-06-30T22:00:47 > aim to document all templates in De 2012-06-30T22:00:54 > create even more templates in the process 2012-06-30T22:00:59 Sigh, it never ends. 2012-06-30T22:01:07 Sounds like a Hydra 2012-06-30T22:02:12 and how do you take care of a hydra? 2012-06-30T22:02:18 KILL IT WITH FIRE!!! 2012-06-30T22:02:21 Kill it wit 2012-06-30T22:02:21 :3 2012-06-30T22:02:24 Yeah that 2012-06-30T22:06:19 Also... didn't you state that people in fact do care about De? 2012-06-30T22:06:22 Look. http://thpatch.net/d/index.php?title=Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen&days=90&from=&limit=2000 2012-06-30T22:06:27 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Letzte Änderungen – Touhou Wiki (at thpatch.net) 2012-06-30T22:06:27 This is how much they cared. 2012-06-30T22:07:28 I'm sure it will get better 2012-06-30T22:07:39 Things even at .net are slow atm 2012-06-30T22:10:00 Hello1 o/ 2012-06-30T22:10:23 Well then, where are you going to get the editors? Remember that people didn't even care about it when there were still interwiki links everywhere. 2012-06-30T22:10:56 Isn't that my problem? :3 2012-06-30T22:11:29 It only worked for the patch project because I gave them a clear goal _and_ they were highly motivated to do it 2012-06-30T22:11:58 If De had the same, why should it be different? 2012-06-30T22:12:14 Clear goal and motivation shouldn't be an issue 2012-06-30T22:13:36 Even if I told you that the German Touhou fanbase consists largely of 12-year old girls? 2012-06-30T22:14:00 That's suppose to daunt me? 2012-06-30T22:14:03 lol 2012-06-30T22:14:18 Here we have Shiizendame, and he hasn't let us down 2012-06-30T22:14:23 I think it can work 2012-06-30T22:14:26 And those who don't fall in this democraphic are too busy playing League of Legends, Soku, or whatever triple-A title is "in" at the moment 2012-06-30T22:14:35 Ah 2012-06-30T22:14:38 See? 2012-06-30T22:14:43 Now I get what u trying to say 2012-06-30T22:14:44 Ok 2012-06-30T22:14:46 Ur right 2012-06-30T22:14:53 That part I know will be an issue 2012-06-30T22:15:01 But, people can grow 2012-06-30T22:16:22 ...me what? 2012-06-30T22:16:24 oh. 2012-06-30T22:16:27 right. 2012-06-30T22:16:44 Sometimes Nmlgc, you need a little faith in the Fanbase 2012-06-30T22:16:59 And I know where you are coming from, so that will be hard 2012-06-30T22:17:07 But that's all we can do really... 2012-06-30T22:17:17 We can't prop the fandom all by ourselves wither 2012-06-30T22:17:20 *either 2012-06-30T22:17:20 also, exactly what IS wrong with 12-year olds consisting largely the fanbase? 2012-06-30T22:17:25 Nothing 2012-06-30T22:17:28 Just the latter reason 2012-06-30T22:17:37 ...oh. 2012-06-30T22:17:48 They doing " League of Legends, Soku, or whatever triple-A title is "in" at the moment" 2012-06-30T22:18:04 That is a realistic issue 2012-06-30T22:19:01 ... yeah, you may be right. This realization was just quite a shock for me 2012-06-30T22:19:27 And this tells me you still care. 2012-06-30T22:19:34 Which I'm so glad for 2012-06-30T22:19:43 See, I was once drawn to Touhou because I took the Encyclopedia Dramatica article at face value 2012-06-30T22:20:52 Which clearly associated Touhou with the antisocial hikikomori NEET group of people 2012-06-30T22:21:57 Touhou is sometimes seen as a vile stain in danmaku by some people. 2012-06-30T22:22:38 but of course, it's hated by the same group of people that think they are cool for playing games that aren't released in America. 2012-06-30T22:23:10 on top of that, something we can't do is fight back, 2012-06-30T22:23:18 because our fandom is so disperse... 2012-06-30T22:23:21 oh well. 2012-06-30T22:23:40 I'd have to argue there Shiizendame. 2012-06-30T22:23:48 We CAN fight back 2012-06-30T22:24:57 ... well, I wouldn't even have tried Touhou if I hadn't enjoyed Radiant Silvergun that much 2012-06-30T22:25:18 I always thought that shmups were boring and short 2012-06-30T22:25:49 Well, I'm glad you came into the Fanbase. 2012-06-30T22:25:59 You certinalty changed it 2012-06-30T22:26:03 Including I. 2012-06-30T22:26:14 :-) 2012-06-30T22:27:55 (-: 2012-06-30T22:28:29 yay 2012-06-30T22:28:40 also Nazeo, we could fight back, but only some of us. 2012-06-30T22:28:55 namely the ones that are in the fandom because of the games. 2012-06-30T22:29:21 ... and I wouldn't even have considered pulling through this project if composing music wasn't so terribly boring and aggravating for me 2012-06-30T22:29:56 Awww 2012-06-30T22:30:12 You know... I like Touhou not only because of the music, but because it's fun. Fun is pretty much all what matters to me. 2012-06-30T22:30:42 *** Nine_ has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T22:31:11 *** Nine_ has left #thcrap 2012-06-30T22:31:22 Well Nmlgc, I wouldn't be following my dreams if you never came into my life. I'd still be trembling under the .net's adminship 2012-06-30T22:31:25 So thanks for that 2012-06-30T22:31:59 Nmlgc is an example to follow, I guess. 2012-06-30T22:33:00 *** N has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T22:33:10 \o 2012-06-30T22:33:11 Hi there 2012-06-30T22:33:24 *** N is now known as Guest94172 2012-06-30T22:33:54 Fun... ? For me, it stopped being fun and turned into serious business about 2 1/2 years ago 2012-06-30T22:34:41 well, your mileage may vary. 2012-06-30T22:34:45 To each his own, I say. 2012-06-30T22:36:48 *** Guest94172 has quit IRC 2012-06-30T22:44:42 I gtg again guys... 2012-06-30T22:44:48 \o 2012-06-30T22:44:53 \o 2012-06-30T22:44:54 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-06-30T23:07:26 gtg 2012-06-30T23:07:27 bye 2012-06-30T23:07:31 *** Shiizendame has quit IRC 2012-06-30T23:39:01 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-06-30T23:49:16 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-30T23:57:26 Alright, De wiki stuff would be finished. Now to put the last finishing touches on the database and the images and then we're ready