2012-06-25T00:08:54  <fsvgm777> Going to bed. Good night.
2012-06-25T00:09:29  <TonyUK> nite o/
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2012-06-25T00:09:49  <Nazeo> \o
2012-06-25T00:09:50  <Nazeo> NOOOOO!
2012-06-25T00:09:55  <Nazeo> Missed him
2012-06-25T00:09:57  <TonyUK> lol u missed
2012-06-25T00:09:58  <Nazeo> Lmao
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2012-06-25T01:02:58  <Shiizendame> ...
2012-06-25T01:03:05  <Shiizendame> this place sure is quiet...
2012-06-25T01:03:18  <Nazeo> Oh sorry
2012-06-25T01:03:30  <Nazeo> Just had a rough time of it earilier
2012-06-25T01:03:35  <Nazeo> So, how is Laby going?
2012-06-25T01:03:42  <Shiizendame> laby...
2012-06-25T01:03:51  <Shiizendame> well, i didn't do anything on laby today.
2012-06-25T01:04:03  <Shiizendame> I was making a Marisa script in Danmakufu for my game.
2012-06-25T01:04:20  <Shiizendame> but I got done with that more than 2 hours ago.
2012-06-25T01:04:27  <Nazeo> Kool
2012-06-25T01:04:28  <Shiizendame> I have been watching videos in youtube.
2012-06-25T02:48:03  <Nazeo> gtg for now
2012-06-25T02:48:04  <Nazeo> \o
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2012-06-25T06:17:31  <Myrtle> http://puu.sh/DtM4
2012-06-25T06:19:43  <Shiizendame> huh?
2012-06-25T06:19:50  <Shiizendame> oh GAWD
2012-06-25T06:19:55  <Shiizendame> that is awesome.
2012-06-25T06:42:00  <Shiizendame> gtg bye
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2012-06-25T19:51:35  <fsvgm777> Hmm... Imperishable_Night/Story/Boundary_Team's_Extra/73/lb takes forever to load...
2012-06-25T19:54:36  <fsvgm777> ..and apparently, the site's down.
2012-06-25T19:54:46  <Nmlgc> fsvgm777: Try again now, should be working again
2012-06-25T19:55:36  <fsvgm777> OK, works now.
2012-06-25T19:56:01  <Nmlgc> That was just me trying needlessly sophisticated stuff in the German wiki... guess I overdid it
2012-06-25T19:56:20  <fsvgm777> Oh.
2012-06-25T19:57:50  <Nmlgc> K_: Apparently, splitting the content into "patch data" and "typical wiki content" isn't too trivial, so it will take a while
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2012-06-25T20:08:18  <Nazeo> \o
2012-06-25T20:08:31  <Nazeo> Any tasks for me today?
2012-06-25T20:08:34  <Nmlgc> \o
2012-06-25T20:08:41  <fsvgm777> OK, I'm done with translating the Boundary Team's Extra to Luxembourgish.
2012-06-25T20:08:48  <Nazeo> \o/
2012-06-25T20:08:52  <Nazeo> ^_^
2012-06-25T20:08:59  <Nmlgc> Later. K_'s already waiting for the De data, so I'd better hurry up in that regard
2012-06-25T20:09:14  <Nazeo> Ok.
2012-06-25T20:09:39  <Nmlgc> Just need to find a way to get that huge music list working...
2012-06-25T20:10:31  <Nmlgc> And right now, "splitting it into mulitple pages" seems the best solution to speed it up
2012-06-25T20:11:12  <Nazeo> Sounds like a lot of work
2012-06-25T20:11:19  <Nmlgc> Also, I've made the decision to exclude omake text translation and character profiles from the patches.
2012-06-25T20:11:33  <Nazeo> Ok
2012-06-25T20:11:52  <Nmlgc> There are a number of reasons for that one:
2012-06-25T20:12:16  <Nmlgc> 1) It's most likely not even seen as "game data" by the pirating masses (and thus, our target audience)
2012-06-25T20:12:33  <Nazeo> Lmao...
2012-06-25T20:12:48  <Nazeo> Don't let that LR post bother you...
2012-06-25T20:12:51  <Nazeo> I took care of it
2012-06-25T20:14:05  <Nmlgc> 2) Sure, those may be read through the patch menu later, but do people really want that? I bet they'll prefer it with pictures and additional content, like on the wiki
2012-06-25T20:14:49  <Nazeo> That's a good idea
2012-06-25T20:15:54  <Nmlgc> 3) Imagine the site navigation in that case. Someone opens e.g. the German story translations on thpatch.net, follows a character link to de.touhouwiki.net, reads the infobox and other stuff, only to be linked back to thpatch.net for the profile translations further down on the page
2012-06-25T20:16:34  <Nazeo> Yeah, that would be bad...
2012-06-25T20:16:57  <Nmlgc> 4) It speeds up De data preparation by at least a few days :-)
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2012-06-25T20:20:37  <Nazeo|Ipod> Which is a +
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2012-06-25T20:28:16  <Nazeo> Oh kool, Touhou Online decided to do the app thing
2012-06-25T20:28:20  <Nazeo> Yay.
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2012-06-25T20:28:43  <fsvgm777> Is that one of the French fan forums?
2012-06-25T20:28:50  <Nazeo> That would be the one
2012-06-25T20:29:01  <Nazeo> Lemme check what address NightLunya used...
2012-06-25T20:31:20  <Nazeo> found it
2012-06-25T20:31:29  <Nazeo> app.cat/touhouonline
2012-06-25T20:32:20  <Nazeo> Hmm, seems like she is still working on it
2012-06-25T20:32:31  <Nazeo> Erm, I mean he
2012-06-25T20:32:41  <Nazeo> (Gender wasn't my best subject)
2012-06-25T20:33:14  <Nazeo> Lemme see, Touhou Wiki has 313 downloads
2012-06-25T20:33:25  <Nazeo> Which is actaully not that bad
2012-06-25T20:33:35  <Nazeo> If we put things into perspective...
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2012-06-25T20:48:46  <Nmlgc> ... I hate this Theme Database, I really do.
2012-06-25T20:49:01  <Nazeo> I'd help if I knew what I was doing
2012-06-25T20:49:04  <Nazeo> Alas, I don't
2012-06-25T20:51:26  <Nmlgc> At least I managed to move off the titles to the database now. Now you can simply call http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=export&group=themedb&language=ja&task=export-to-file and get them in an instant
2012-06-25T20:52:21  <Nmlgc> That's how I wanted things to be from the very beginning
2012-06-25T20:52:54  <Nmlgc> But the category and source information is still stores as a bunch of variables, slowing down the server
2012-06-25T20:53:32  <Nmlgc> I'd get rid of the categories, but people want them
2012-06-25T20:55:10  <Nmlgc> It's this whole "associating themes with characters" topic
2012-06-25T20:56:36  <Nazeo> Like "who wears hats"?
2012-06-25T21:06:20  <Nmlgc> Not... quite.
2012-06-25T21:06:26  * Nmlgc just rages for a while.
2012-06-25T21:06:36  * Nazeo backs away slowly
2012-06-25T21:13:44  <Nmlgc> OK, I'll sleep over that topic. Sorry K_.
2012-06-25T21:13:47  <Nmlgc> Now, back to our wiki...
2012-06-25T21:13:58  <Nazeo> ?
2012-06-25T21:15:05  <Nazeo> I just need a directive.
2012-06-25T21:15:10  <Nazeo> Then it shall get done
2012-06-25T21:15:35  <Nmlgc> A few minutes, and I'll have one for you.
2012-06-25T21:15:42  <Nazeo> Yay!
2012-06-25T21:16:01  <Nmlgc> Today: Implementing the character interwiki linking
2012-06-25T21:16:23  <Nazeo> O.O
2012-06-25T21:16:30  <Nmlgc> Twilight will do most of the work automatically, your job will just be to re-mark the pages for translation
2012-06-25T21:16:31  <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Nmlgc: Error: "will" is not a valid command.
2012-06-25T21:16:41  <Nazeo> lol...
2012-06-25T21:16:55  <Nazeo> Anyway, sure I'll do it!
2012-06-25T21:20:12  <Nazeo> Which would be located on http://thpatch.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate/!recent&task=acceptqueue&language=en
2012-06-25T21:20:13  <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Translate - Touhou Patch Wiki (at thpatch.net)
2012-06-25T21:20:17  <Nazeo> Right?
2012-06-25T21:21:02  <Nmlgc> Nope... you'll have to visit each individual page
2012-06-25T21:21:06  <Nazeo> Oh...
2012-06-25T21:21:15  <Nmlgc> *source page
2012-06-25T21:21:23  <Nazeo> Gotcha
2012-06-25T21:47:15  <Nmlgc> OK, all the templates should be replaced now
2012-06-25T21:47:34  <Nazeo> Works starts now, right?
2012-06-25T21:47:41  <Nmlgc> Yep. I've put a list of the affected pages in your Dropbox
2012-06-25T21:47:52  <Nazeo> Thank you, I'll get started right away
2012-06-25T21:51:34  <Nmlgc> If you visit the pages, it should say "This page has changes since it was last marked for translation" at the top
2012-06-25T21:52:05  <Nmlgc> Click on "marked for translation", scroll down and click "Mark this version for translation"
2012-06-25T21:52:08  <Nmlgc> Rinse and repeat.
2012-06-25T21:52:17  <Nazeo> I do not get this msg
2012-06-25T21:52:28  <Nazeo> http://thpatch.net/wiki/Double_Spoiler/Translation/Spoiler
2012-06-25T21:52:31  <Nazeo> As an example
2012-06-25T21:52:52  <Nazeo> Oh
2012-06-25T21:52:53  <Nazeo> Nvm
2012-06-25T21:52:58  <Nazeo> This is me being stupid again
2012-06-25T21:53:01  <Nazeo> I'll take care of it
2012-06-25T21:53:04  <Nazeo> -.-
2012-06-25T21:57:27  <Nmlgc> Woo. Turns out that you can't use system variables in links and our nice little idea doesn't even work. Great.
2012-06-25T21:57:38  <Nazeo> So I should stop.
2012-06-25T21:57:41  <Nazeo> Damn
2012-06-25T21:58:43  <Nmlgc> No, continue... I'll find a way around it, and we won't need to edit the pages again
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2012-06-25T21:59:06  <Nmlgc> (21:57:38) Nazeo: So I should stop.
2012-06-25T21:59:06  <Nmlgc> (21:57:41) Nazeo: Damn
2012-06-25T21:59:06  <Nmlgc> (21:58:43) Nmlgc: No, continue... I'll find a way around it, and we won't need to edit the pages again
2012-06-25T21:59:13  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ok, will do
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2012-06-25T22:06:59  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I have encountered an error
2012-06-25T22:07:13  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Perfect Cherry Blossom/Story/Stage titles
2012-06-25T22:08:52  <Nmlgc> Happens. Sometimes the extension fails to update certain language versions of pages
2012-06-25T22:08:57  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Retry?
2012-06-25T22:09:12  <Nmlgc> Well, there is no "retry"... They will automatically update as soon as the translations get edited.
2012-06-25T22:09:19  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ok
2012-06-25T22:11:03  <Nmlgc> OK, the fact that this idea doesn't work lies somewhere in the interwiki functionality
2012-06-25T22:12:00  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Call me simple, but don't all interwikis do is just replace a suffix to the url?
2012-06-25T22:12:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I meant prefix...
2012-06-25T22:12:55  <Nmlgc> They should. It's just a question of _when_ this feature is called in the page rendering process
2012-06-25T22:13:16  <Nmlgc> And we can't just simply build the URL on our own because of touhou.net
2012-06-25T22:13:30  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Right.
2012-06-25T22:13:31  <Nmlgc> And whatever non-.net wikis there may be in the future
2012-06-25T22:14:10  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Wow, this actually seems tough to solve.
2012-06-25T22:14:26  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> So now, we must focus our efforts in the internal aspect in hopes of fixing it...
2012-06-25T22:14:40  <Nmlgc> Aaah, f---
2012-06-25T22:14:50  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> ???
2012-06-25T22:14:53  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> What's wrong?
2012-06-25T22:15:28  <Nmlgc> I have to write a colon in front of the language! Otherwise, the links appear in the sidebar
2012-06-25T22:15:47  * Nazeo_Aelko_Neze groans
2012-06-25T22:16:00  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Well, at least we know what the problem is...
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2012-06-25T22:16:11  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> \o
2012-06-25T22:16:18  <TonyUK> hello o/
2012-06-25T22:16:58  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Lemme guess, iwing does not allow that (the colon)
2012-06-25T22:17:15  <Nmlgc> No! It's an easy solution!
2012-06-25T22:17:22  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> O.O
2012-06-25T22:17:28  <TonyUK> oh
2012-06-25T22:17:31  <Nmlgc> Just replace [[{{pagelang}} with [[:{{pagelang}}
2012-06-25T22:17:36  <TonyUK> Hello K ^_^
2012-06-25T22:17:44  <Nmlgc> in the template
2012-06-25T22:20:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> So after I'm done doing this, we are going to need to switch back, haha...
2012-06-25T22:21:00  <Nmlgc> Umm... no?
2012-06-25T22:21:09  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> oh.
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2012-06-25T22:22:09  <Nmlgc> I'll just have to run the bot over the IN pages again because they're a bit... different and Twilight didn't get them completely at first
2012-06-25T22:23:04  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Ok
2012-06-25T22:23:10  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> In that case, I'm done marking
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2012-06-25T22:23:42  <Nmlgc> Thanks.
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2012-06-25T22:24:04  <Nmlgc> Yay, it works http://thpatch.net/wiki/Embodiment_of_Scarlet_Devil/Story/Reimu%27s_Scenario/es
2012-06-25T22:24:05  <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil/Historia/Escenario de Reimu - Touhou Patch Wiki (at thpatch.net)
2012-06-25T22:24:11  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> Lol, thanks for being patient with me!
2012-06-25T22:24:20  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> I know I can be very slow sometimes
2012-06-25T22:24:25  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> And yay!
2012-06-25T22:24:44  <Nmlgc> Yeah, we're totally killing .net with this project
2012-06-25T22:24:45  <Nmlgc> (not)
2012-06-25T22:24:52  <Nazeo_Aelko_Neze> :P
2012-06-25T22:26:03  <Nmlgc> fsvgm777: Since there is no Luxembourgish Touhou Wiki... would you feel offended if I just linked the German character articles on the lb pages?
2012-06-25T22:26:26  <fsvgm777> Either French or German (even English) is fine.
2012-06-25T22:27:30  <Nmlgc> OK, then I'm going with German
2012-06-25T22:27:44  <fsvgm777> I mean, every Luxembourger understands at least French and German.
2012-06-25T22:29:01  <Nmlgc> Hmm, OK, then let's better take the French wiki, it's way bigger
2012-06-25T22:29:33  * Nazeo_Aelko_Neze thinks it over
2012-06-25T22:30:10  <fsvgm777> Well, I'll admit... French is my preference. (still fine with German)
2012-06-25T22:30:41  <Nmlgc> The thing is, I can only choose one and the Luxembourgish flag will appear next to it in any case
2012-06-25T22:31:22  <fsvgm777> It's one of Luxembourg's official languages, so...
2012-06-25T22:31:41  <fsvgm777> (the laws are written in French, IIRC)
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2012-06-25T22:33:02  <fsvgm777> And by the way, the reason French is my preference is because I'm half Luxembourger, half Belgian (my father comes from Charleroi).
2012-06-25T22:34:01  <fsvgm777> Err...
2012-06-25T22:34:07  <fsvgm777> *is from Charleroi
2012-06-25T22:34:49  <fsvgm777> Frenchism right there.
2012-06-25T22:34:56  <TonyAFK> brb... Helping sis with nephew
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2012-06-25T23:12:30  <Nmlgc> OK, fixed up IN Border Team, time to go to bed now
2012-06-25T23:12:39  <fsvgm777> Good night.
2012-06-25T23:13:13  <Nazeo> \o
2012-06-25T23:13:16  <Nazeo> Nite!
2012-06-25T23:14:25  <Nmlgc> When K_ appears, tell him to wait a bit longer for the data. Don't want to crash the .net servers with that terrible pseudo database :-)
2012-06-25T23:14:28  <Nmlgc> See you all~
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2012-06-25T23:14:32  <Nazeo> Roger
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2012-06-25T23:59:00  <TonyUK> back o/
2012-06-25T23:59:05  <Nazeo> \o
2012-06-25T23:59:32  <Shiizendame> hello.
2012-06-25T23:59:55  <TonyUK> hihi ^_^