2012-06-10T00:19:17 *** Shiizendame has quit IRC 2012-06-10T02:36:30 *** TonyUK has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T02:36:30 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T03:08:38 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-06-10T04:05:23 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T04:05:23 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T04:16:18 *** Nazeo has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T04:16:18 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T04:16:47 \o 2012-06-10T04:16:56 \o 2012-06-10T04:17:06 Done with Graduation 2012-06-10T04:17:08 Whew 2012-06-10T04:18:48 How 2012-06-10T04:18:57 How's things going? 2012-06-10T04:19:01 I need a job again 2012-06-10T04:19:05 Lol 2012-06-10T04:19:13 I get antsy without a directive 2012-06-10T04:19:20 And start doing "stupid stuff" 2012-06-10T04:19:21 lol 2012-06-10T04:19:44 Well, I'm finally porting the dialog pages~ 2012-06-10T04:19:48 http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/wiki/Undefined_Fantastic_Object/Story/Sanae_B%27s_Scenario 2012-06-10T04:19:49 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Undefined Fantastic Object/Story/Sanae B's Scenario – Touhou Wiki (at wiki.touhou-forum.de) 2012-06-10T04:20:11 Yay! 2012-06-10T04:20:14 ^_^ 2012-06-10T04:20:42 Now, what could you do... I don't really know 2012-06-10T04:20:53 I'm sorry if I'm bothersome in this way 2012-06-10T04:20:56 Regarding "copy-pasting" the German translations, I want to write some script too 2012-06-10T04:21:06 I just wanna help you in any way possible 2012-06-10T04:21:13 I know :-) 2012-06-10T04:21:30 And even if the importer doesn't work, I could just import it through the shell 2012-06-10T04:22:08 Ah 2012-06-10T04:24:23 ... That upcoming wiki split might actually be pretty hard to pull off, content-wise 2012-06-10T04:24:47 Due to manaul labor? 2012-06-10T04:24:52 Or just coding? 2012-06-10T04:26:05 Well... it's just the sheer amount of stuff that constitutes as "patch data". The "non-patch wiki" will lose quite some content 2012-06-10T04:26:43 I see. 2012-06-10T04:26:46 Especially the translated character profile texts 2012-06-10T04:27:00 If you make data dumps, I will make sure they will be used 2012-06-10T04:27:03 Kk? 2012-06-10T04:27:13 That's not the problem... 2012-06-10T04:27:18 Oh 2012-06-10T04:27:23 I guess I don't get it 2012-06-10T04:27:52 It's the fact that the "non-patch" wiki will have to redirect to our wiki for that content, and not host it themselves because we don't want duplication 2012-06-10T04:28:05 Ah... 2012-06-10T04:28:12 I see 2012-06-10T04:28:26 Just look: http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/wiki/Reimu_Hakurei 2012-06-10T04:28:27 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Reimu Hakurei – Touhou Wiki (at wiki.touhou-forum.de) 2012-06-10T04:28:58 The "non-patch" wiki would have to replace everything under "Offizielle Profile" with a link to us 2012-06-10T04:31:06 *epiphany* Or... they could use "scary transclusion" 2012-06-10T04:31:09 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding#How_to_use_scary_transclusion 2012-06-10T04:31:10 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding - MediaWiki (at www.mediawiki.org) 2012-06-10T04:32:19 ... 2012-06-10T04:32:33 Why do I see it as "life-support"? 2012-06-10T04:32:38 i found out i can't play chess 2012-06-10T04:32:41 It's just as scary looking 2012-06-10T04:32:47 i keep losing to myself through the same move 2012-06-10T04:34:07 Stable vs Unstable 2012-06-10T04:34:11 Pros and cons :/ 2012-06-10T04:36:32 Well, it's still realistic to assume that nobody cares anyway and we could just shove off the content to Wikia, so those links won't be a problem 2012-06-10T04:37:04 Or I could shove it off to .net and see if they willing 2012-06-10T04:37:07 I'm sure I can do it 2012-06-10T04:37:34 That point, I'll orchestrate everything 2012-06-10T04:37:39 ... yeah, that's what I wanted to ask. I think you can start negotiating with Momiji now 2012-06-10T04:37:44 Roger 2012-06-10T04:37:58 She's on vacation atm, so I'm not sure when she'll respond 2012-06-10T04:38:03 But be sure to mention our complete situation 2012-06-10T04:38:08 Ok 2012-06-10T04:38:20 Just to be sure we are on the same page, let's run that plz 2012-06-10T04:39:21 So we are to make a translation wiki which no longer necessitates De wiki being primary source. We would send it off to wikia, but we offer to .net should they choose to accept 2012-06-10T04:39:24 I got that right? 2012-06-10T04:40:03 That's the gist of it, I'll do better in telling it 2012-06-10T04:40:24 Pretty much. And the pros and cons are as follows: 2012-06-10T04:40:30 kk 2012-06-10T04:41:00 1) It is not sure whether we can find an admin for it. None of the editors that ever edited it did so over a longer period of time. Hiding it in the incubator out of plain sight may be counter-productive 2012-06-10T04:41:17 Noted 2012-06-10T04:45:51 2) The multi-language setup of .net or even .net's existence has not reached the group of people we're talking about. They don't feel bound to any wiki - if touhou.wikia.com appears before .net in search results, they will happily use that 2012-06-10T04:46:06 Roger 2012-06-10T04:46:22 de.touhou.wikia.com is still high up in search results for the basic queries. Trying to outdo that is most likely destined to be futile 2012-06-10T04:46:36 Ok then, I'll address that 2012-06-10T04:47:12 3) The new wiki will refuse to do translations of source content found in the games 2012-06-10T04:47:28 Is this the cons? 2012-06-10T04:47:51 Everything seems like a pro and con in its own right... 2012-06-10T04:47:54 Fair 2012-06-10T04:48:01 Ok, I'll let Momi figure that out 2012-06-10T04:48:01 lol 2012-06-10T04:49:48 Alright, that's it 2012-06-10T04:49:58 Ok thank you 2012-06-10T04:50:04 Here's hoping for the best! 2012-06-10T04:50:07 * Nazeo salutes 2012-06-10T04:52:58 Omg 2012-06-10T04:53:03 500 word essay 2012-06-10T04:53:04 All in my mind 2012-06-10T04:53:07 :/ 2012-06-10T04:54:15 lolwut 2012-06-10T05:20:04 that was harsh 2012-06-10T05:20:05 brb 2012-06-10T05:20:13 It's fine 2012-06-10T05:20:14 ... 2012-06-10T05:20:15 Wow Nmlgc 2012-06-10T05:20:22 That was a tough piece to write 2012-06-10T05:20:31 Hoping for the best 2012-06-10T05:20:46 OwO 2012-06-10T05:20:50 Thanks :-) 2012-06-10T05:21:01 Yeah, thx for giving .net a chance 2012-06-10T05:21:07 I appreciate that 2012-06-10T05:21:08 But honestly... I still think that Wikia is the best solution 2012-06-10T05:21:12 I know 2012-06-10T05:21:22 Still, thanks for humoring me 2012-06-10T05:21:40 I hope that Momiji has at least that much common sense left -.- 2012-06-10T05:21:43 You're welcome~ 2012-06-10T05:22:02 Lol, the scary thing is I can imagine her saying the same thing about you 2012-06-10T05:22:09 Odd, isn't it? 2012-06-10T05:32:57 to ipod 2012-06-10T05:33:03 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-06-10T05:59:07 *** Nazeo|Ipod has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T05:59:07 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T05:59:23 That took a bit... 2012-06-10T05:59:28 whee 2012-06-10T06:23:47 *** Nazeo|Ipod has quit IRC 2012-06-10T09:03:33 *** Zwyx is now known as awayx 2012-06-10T12:17:34 *** awayx has quit IRC 2012-06-10T15:16:37 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-06-10T15:20:46 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T15:20:46 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T15:37:34 *** Myrtle has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T15:37:34 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? You always stay so short and we fail to catch you -.- 2012-06-10T16:58:55 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-06-10T17:15:00 *** Nmlgc has joined #thcrap 2012-06-10T17:15:00 -[Bot]TwilightSpa- Hello there! If you happen to be Remi-Shama, may I ask you to stay and leave this chat open? 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