2012-05-28T01:31:41 *** DeltaSierra4 has joined #User_Database 2012-05-28T01:31:49 *** DeltaSierra4 has left #User_Database 2012-05-28T02:46:05 *** Nmlgc1 has joined #User_Database 2012-05-28T02:47:36 *** Nmlgc has quit IRC 2012-05-28T04:13:49 *** Nazeo has joined #User_Database 2012-05-28T04:14:55 \o 2012-05-28T04:15:05 o/ 2012-05-28T04:15:08 Glad some people decide to come to De 2012-05-28T04:15:09 :D 2012-05-28T04:15:22 \o 2012-05-28T04:15:57 But I'm sad no one wants to do Restaisi 2012-05-28T04:16:22 Well, at least someone did a few translation edits... otherwise I'd been kinda angry at this... 2012-05-28T04:16:33 ? 2012-05-28T04:16:36 Explain 2012-05-28T04:16:53 Tbh, I was excited 2012-05-28T04:17:27 And, to reaffirm my point, DasMilC came from Wikia 2012-05-28T04:17:36 Oh... 2012-05-28T04:17:38 I see 2012-05-28T04:17:40 Hmm 2012-05-28T04:17:47 Those character pages are useless! Why do we even have them? 2012-05-28T04:17:48 Love and Tolerance? 2012-05-28T04:17:51 Ah 2012-05-28T04:17:52 I see 2012-05-28T04:18:10 Perhaps this calls for the "revisioing" 2012-05-28T04:18:14 Seeing people editing those instead of the translations feels like a slap in the face 2012-05-28T04:18:21 Well... 2012-05-28T04:18:25 There was a Es guy 2012-05-28T04:20:01 Anyway, if we decide to make ourselves into "Translations" that guy will have no choice but to do that :/ 2012-05-28T04:20:09 That annoys me 2012-05-28T04:20:20 Lemme look into our "old friends" 2012-05-28T04:20:33 It's kinda werid that that guy decided to come after 2012-05-28T04:20:42 After all, how did he find us? 2012-05-28T04:20:59 Um... who are you talking about? 2012-05-28T04:21:08 DasMilC 2012-05-28T04:21:17 Isn't that a bit off? 2012-05-28T04:21:22 No, not at all! 2012-05-28T04:21:26 ? 2012-05-28T04:22:00 I just replaced the front page of de.touhou.wikia.com with a link to wiki.touhou-forum.de. And he followed that link. 2012-05-28T04:22:03 That's what I meant 2012-05-28T04:22:14 Interesting... 2012-05-28T04:23:12 But why now? 2012-05-28T04:24:07 We have had 921 page hits from Wikia since the beginning of the month 2012-05-28T04:24:39 ... and maybe 400 from the whole of .net 2012-05-28T04:25:06 This tells us that: 2012-05-28T04:25:17 1) There _are_ people looking for a German Touhou Wiki 2012-05-28T04:26:41 2) ... and they wouldn't have ever looked on .net for it, despite its multi-language intentions 2012-05-28T04:28:15 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-05-28T04:35:11 *** Nazeo has joined #User_Database 2012-05-28T04:35:21 I'm srry 2012-05-28T04:35:24 Blacked out 2012-05-28T04:35:28 (04:24:02) Nmlgc1: We have had 921 page hits from Wikia since the beginning of the month 2012-05-28T04:35:29 (04:24:34) Nmlgc1: ... and maybe 400 from the whole of .net 2012-05-28T04:35:29 (04:25:02) Nmlgc1: This tells us that: 2012-05-28T04:35:29 (04:25:13) Nmlgc1: 1) There _are_ people looking for a German Touhou Wiki 2012-05-28T04:35:29 (04:26:36) Nmlgc1: 2) ... and they wouldn't have ever looked on .net for it, despite its multi-language intentions 2012-05-28T04:35:40 I see 2012-05-28T04:35:41 And if there are people looking for the typical "Touhou Wiki content" like character pages and stuff in German, I'm a bit reluctant to carry out my grand plans 2012-05-28T04:35:52 Ah 2012-05-28T04:36:00 I see the dilemma 2012-05-28T04:36:22 Tough call 2012-05-28T04:36:29 There would be 3 solutions: 2012-05-28T04:37:26 1) Move to patchcentral.net, allow German Wiki content to co-exist (which feels a bit pointless and will probably "hide" that content too much in favor of the site's main intention) 2012-05-28T04:37:31 *thpatch.net 2012-05-28T04:38:04 2) Move to thpatch.net, move Wiki content back to Wikia (seems the best solution, but well, some of our editors hate Wikia too) 2012-05-28T04:39:55 3) Stay at wiki.touhou-forum.de and hope that people from other countries do want to create their patches here 2012-05-28T04:40:12 I have a 4th, Move to thpatch.net, move Wiki content back to .net; this will improve our relations. 2012-05-28T04:40:34 Thing is 2012-05-28T04:40:41 We wanna do what u wanna do 2012-05-28T04:40:52 That is why you aquired De in the first place 2012-05-28T04:41:25 Right. But on the other hand, I didn't acquire it for pointless character pages... 2012-05-28T04:41:32 Exactly 2012-05-28T04:41:42 Those people, to be honest, we do not need 2012-05-28T04:42:08 So, revealing our true intentions gets the right ppl here 2012-05-28T04:42:19 And minimizes future fights :/ 2012-05-28T04:43:03 And if Momiji were willing to re-open de.touhouwiki.net to move that "pointless" content off there... then I'd be OK with that too :-) 2012-05-28T04:44:03 Thx man 2012-05-28T04:44:08 I'll take care of that :3 2012-05-28T04:44:35 Well... it all will be decided based on the success of the pre-alpha release. 2012-05-28T04:44:51 Right! 2012-05-28T04:44:52 :3 2012-05-28T04:44:57 Hoping for the best 2012-05-28T04:44:58 And also 2012-05-28T04:45:03 U want me to work on Mof? 2012-05-28T04:45:33 Not really, as there is already a Spanish patch (and thus, translation) for it. 2012-05-28T04:45:37 I see 2012-05-28T04:45:46 Those ppls never responded back :/ 2012-05-28T04:46:43 Grrr 2012-05-28T04:46:52 It doesn't help that they moved 2012-05-28T04:46:57 To another forum 2012-05-28T04:46:59 So.. 2012-05-28T04:47:03 I'll try there too 2012-05-28T04:48:11 Thanks. Please also include the current development state in the mail... 2012-05-28T04:48:18 I will 2012-05-28T04:48:31 That is, Wiki -> MSG conversion finished for every game, patcher development will be started soon 2012-05-28T04:49:05 I will include that 2012-05-28T04:52:57 And uh... Nmlgc? 2012-05-28T04:53:00 Hmm? 2012-05-28T04:53:07 Could you unblock Momiji? 2012-05-28T04:53:12 :/ 2012-05-28T04:53:14 Why? 2012-05-28T04:53:32 Well, if we wanna start thing right with .net, that may be a start 2012-05-28T04:53:35 That is, if u wish 2012-05-28T04:53:36 :/ 2012-05-28T04:56:14 In this case, I don't. As I said, people don't care whether their content is on .net, Wikia or anywhere else 2012-05-28T04:56:29 I see. 2012-05-28T04:56:44 I thought hard about this situation and to what extent it even might have been my fault. 2012-05-28T04:56:57 It's my fault too 2012-05-28T04:57:20 I was angry at the time and wanted you to go with it, so I said nothing 2012-05-28T04:57:29 But no, I realized it was wrong for me to keep silent 2012-05-28T04:57:33 *now 2012-05-28T04:57:50 I just want the patch wiki to be on even ground as sort of a "rebirth" 2012-05-28T04:58:15 But in the end, it came down to the fact that I don't want to support this kind of administration and this kind of wiki concept. 2012-05-28T04:58:49 That's true 2012-05-28T04:58:51 The whole De thing might not have been necessary had they chosen to allow the endings to be posted 2012-05-28T04:59:00 I also think things can be improved 2012-05-28T04:59:11 But that's the thing; I still think they are savable 2012-05-28T04:59:56 I understand your banning as a "flag" to voice ur disapproval 2012-05-28T05:00:19 I also am disappointed with things are goign now 2012-05-28T05:00:40 But, I still have faith in em 2012-05-28T05:50:55 On another note, I sent the new msg 2012-05-28T05:50:58 Here it is: 2012-05-28T05:51:28 ¡Hola! 2012-05-28T05:51:29 Me di cuenta de que contaba con un equipo que tradujo los parches para los juegos de Touhou y me preguntaba si mi amigo NamelessLegacy en http://wiki.touhou-forum.de/wiki/Hauptseite podría utilizar los parches con su motor. Lo que hace es que cuando se edita el wiki, las actualizaciones lo automáticas para que coincida con la revisión de la traducción con el wiki. 2012-05-28T05:51:29 Conversión de MSG terminado para cada juego, el desarrollo de parche se iniciará muy pronto 2012-05-28T05:51:29 ¡Además, si usted quiere unirse a nosotros para trabajar en los parches, eso sea agradable también! 2012-05-28T05:51:30 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Touhou Wiki (at wiki.touhou-forum.de) 2012-05-28T05:53:40 Eh... you should have rather linked the forum thread instead of the wiki main page 2012-05-28T05:53:59 http://touhou-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=281 2012-05-28T05:54:00 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Das Touhou Deutsch-Patch-Projekt - Ãœbersichts/News-Thread [Nächster Schritt: Pre-Alpha-Release!] - Touhou Wiki - Touhou-Forum (at touhou-forum.de) 2012-05-28T05:54:08 Ah, damn 2012-05-28T05:54:17 Should I sent another message to fix? 2012-05-28T05:54:47 Would be better, yeah. 2012-05-28T05:54:51 Roger! 2012-05-28T06:07:25 Fixed 2012-05-28T06:08:30 ? 2012-05-28T06:08:37 That was fast... 2012-05-28T06:09:03 Annoyed... 2012-05-28T06:09:16 "Buenas Nazeo! De momento no te lo recomendaría porque esa es una versión beta y tiene bastantes fallos aún, y el grupo de bordermaru está algo paralizado así que deberíais esperar de momento, gracias por preguntar" 2012-05-28T06:10:42 So, how should I proceed? 2012-05-28T06:10:45 ... well, OK, we can wait for now. 2012-05-28T06:10:51 fair 2012-05-28T06:10:58 To translations! 2012-05-28T06:11:04 I think this means they'll write back as soon as they are ready, doesn't it? 2012-05-28T06:11:11 Makes sense 2012-05-28T06:45:56 All right, update post for the forum has been written 2012-05-28T06:46:03 yay! 2012-05-28T06:47:01 ... and Google Translate has problems with German negations, making some sentences appear opposite to what I wrote -.- 2012-05-28T06:47:17 I had that happened b4 2012-05-28T06:47:18 :/ 2012-05-28T06:47:30 Use German + English? 2012-05-28T06:48:35 Don't trust google 2012-05-28T06:48:43 Hmm, maybe... but on the other hand... that'd be too much work, and I want to retain at least some sense of "exclusivity" 2012-05-28T06:48:57 lol, fair 2012-05-28T06:48:58 I don't very much like writing such elaborate posts to begin with 2012-05-28T06:49:19 Which is another reason why I hired you to do the Spanish community relations ;-) 2012-05-28T06:49:27 Ah; right 2012-05-28T06:49:28 lol 2012-05-28T06:56:36 All right, I'm off to bed now. See you all~ 2012-05-28T06:58:35 Nite! 2012-05-28T06:58:36 \o 2012-05-28T06:58:39 *** Nmlgc1 has quit IRC 2012-05-28T07:30:26 *** TonyUK has quit IRC 2012-05-28T10:17:49 *** Nazeo has quit IRC 2012-05-28T13:03:23 *** Nmlgc has joined #User_Database