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But there is nothing that really sets it apart from .net 2012-05-23T23:21:41 Yeah... 2012-05-23T23:21:45 Even Quwanti's plans for NL are more creative than that 2012-05-23T23:21:52 Lol 2012-05-23T23:21:59 So should I be worried then? 2012-05-23T23:22:04 They look like a tough crowd 2012-05-23T23:22:17 I've tried 3 prototypes 2012-05-23T23:22:24 All failed to capture my interest 2012-05-23T23:22:27 No, no. They don't seem to have a "mission" of sorts 2012-05-23T23:22:46 Kk, thx 2012-05-23T23:22:56 That was keeping me up for the past couple of days 2012-05-23T23:22:57 :/ 2012-05-23T23:23:00 About the mailing thing... 2012-05-23T23:23:02 2012-05-22T23:39:17 Um, Nazeo... Are you sure you actually mailed the right people? 2012-05-22T23:39:34 I only need those who _worked_ on _Spanish patches_ in the past, or are working on some right now! 2012-05-22T23:39:44 Not those gensokyo.org bastards 2012-05-23T23:23:03 Yes 2012-05-23T23:23:10 Ah 2012-05-23T23:23:37 You had a scuffle with gensokyo b4? 2012-05-23T23:23:52 No... but they are our "enemies" in this project! 2012-05-23T23:24:02 Because our success will make them redundant 2012-05-23T23:24:03 I see. 2012-05-23T23:24:26 A "merger"? Have you seen the hisoutenko wiki? 2012-05-23T23:24:45 I don't think they like the idea of the Touhou games being translated by "the mob" 2012-05-23T23:24:49 It is possible, but if u no intersted, I'll drop that and focus on soemthing elsse 2012-05-23T23:24:50 Ah 2012-05-23T23:24:54 lol I see ur point 2012-05-23T23:25:05 They are a rather close knit group 2012-05-23T23:25:09 All run by one guy 2012-05-23T23:25:18 Ok then 2012-05-23T23:25:34 I'll try something else then (looking for ppls) 2012-05-23T23:25:45 As I said, I need those who made the Spanish patches 2012-05-23T23:26:08 I need the permission to add their translations to our wiki 2012-05-23T23:26:09 Tbh I never even knew such patches existed 2012-05-23T23:26:12 I'll look 2012-05-23T23:26:25 Neither did I. 2012-05-23T23:26:26 Aha! 2012-05-23T23:26:28 I found them 2012-05-23T23:26:33 kk, I'll get right to it 2012-05-23T23:26:48 @tweets 20 2012-05-23T23:26:50 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Nmlgc: Hier der versprochene PCB-Screenshot. Hab extra 'ne schÃ¶ne Stelle rausgesucht. #Touhou #Deutsch #German #Patch http://t.co/J9xGPcKv || Hab jetzt die Timecodes fÃ¼r PCB nachgetragen und mir dabei auch die Ãœbersetzungen angeschaut. Das muss _dringend_ Ã¼berarbeitet werden... || Meine GÃ¼te. Da seh ich https://t.co/k0hzaTfY und frag mich, warum Momiji Ã¼berhaupt dieses Farm- (6 more messages) 2012-05-23T23:26:53 @more 2012-05-23T23:26:53 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Nmlgc: Konzept weiterfÃ¼hren wollte. || Die mit Abstand meisten externen Hits kommen allerdings von Wikia! Ãœberrascht mich auch dass der Link auf der Hauptseite so gut funktioniert || Das Wiki steht Ã¼brigens so schlecht da, dass ich mich fÃ¼r jede Verlinkung einzeln bedanken kann. Heute: Das BisaBoard: http://t.co/ciON80pd || So, hab jetzt den Konverter fÃ¼r Youmu angepasst... (5 more messages) 2012-05-23T23:26:56 @more 2012-05-23T23:26:56 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Nmlgc: und das war's auch schon fÃ¼r heute. PCB-Screenshots morgen. (Nmlgc) || @NazeoAelkoNezen That is, ask them if it would be OK if we posted their translation on our wiki and re-created their patches using my engine || @NazeoAelkoNezen, if you are bored: Could you track down these groups and ask them if they want to cooperate with us? || All based on the English patch, all (4 more messages) 2012-05-23T23:26:59 @more 2012-05-23T23:26:59 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Nmlgc: made by some obscure "translation groups", and all hard to find because they were never hosted properly || Oh, great. There are Spanish patches for at least EoSD, MoF, GFW and TD already. But they all have the same problem: || Wollte eigentlich heute mehr schaffen, aber was will man machen. Und wegen Youmu muss ich den Konverter schon wieder Ã¼berdenken... (Nmlgc) || (3 more messages) 2012-05-23T23:27:04 There it is 2012-05-23T23:27:23 Ninamo 2012-05-23T23:27:31 Is a person who has done some 2012-05-23T23:27:35 I'll contact this person 2012-05-23T23:27:40 And a few others 2012-05-23T23:27:42 Thanks. 2012-05-23T23:27:55 Np, srry for the mix up. 2012-05-23T23:28:17 Now... for these gensokyo guys; I think we better give them a full show... 2012-05-23T23:28:35 Exactly. 2012-05-23T23:28:36 If a new Touhou game is released, we gotta be right there 2012-05-23T23:28:46 Totally get at it 2012-05-23T23:28:53 That's the spirit. 2012-05-23T23:29:05 But right now... I'm a bit worried about the success of the upcoming pre-alpha... 2012-05-23T23:29:16 I seem to have lost all support from the German community 2012-05-23T23:29:22 Oh no... 2012-05-23T23:29:27 Where are they going instead? 2012-05-23T23:29:51 No one has edited the translations in the past months 2012-05-23T23:30:08 We need ppls, huh. 2012-05-23T23:30:22 * Nazeo Thinks 2012-05-23T23:30:30 I don't know. Just losing interest... even though they have promised me to help at first 2012-05-23T23:30:46 That's not cool for them to abandon you like that. 2012-05-23T23:30:49 That makes me mad 2012-05-23T23:30:54 I mean, what the hell? 2012-05-23T23:31:17 If you said you are going to do something, just don't all of the sudden quit 2012-05-23T23:31:21 I mean... I can understand it a bit, seeing that there was no progress at my end in March and April 2012-05-23T23:31:26 Like, at all. 2012-05-23T23:31:30 But dude 2012-05-23T23:31:35 They could've said SOMETHING 2012-05-23T23:31:43 Like "Yeah, we going go" 2012-05-23T23:31:50 http://touhou-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=265 << Look 2012-05-23T23:31:51 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Hat jemand Lust auf Deutsch-Patches? Umfrage / Musiktitel-Ãœbersetzungs-Diskussion - Touhou Wiki - Touhou-Forum (at touhou-forum.de) 2012-05-23T23:31:51 So we can make plans 2012-05-23T23:31:52 kk 2012-05-23T23:31:54 I'll look 2012-05-23T23:32:07 22 people said they would be interested in patching the main series 2012-05-23T23:32:21 "Ja, für die Hauptserie (22)" 2012-05-23T23:32:24 Yes... 2012-05-23T23:32:50 again, I can understand ppl have lives but uh... 2012-05-23T23:32:56 That was pre-mature for them to go 2012-05-23T23:33:04 So... now we gotta pick up the pieces 2012-05-23T23:33:09 * Nazeo shivers 2012-05-23T23:33:11 Then, 5 people worked on translations 2012-05-23T23:33:16 I gotta talk to ppls 2012-05-23T23:33:17 We even got EoSD finished 2012-05-23T23:33:22 But now, everyone left. 2012-05-23T23:33:23 Oh, u did? 2012-05-23T23:33:26 Damn 2012-05-23T23:33:52 And this is why I'm hoping to get the support of the Spanish community now 2012-05-23T23:34:01 After all, they at least got something _done_ 2012-05-23T23:34:12 * Nazeo now wonders why there is a Spanish thread in the french wiki 2012-05-23T23:35:28 Alright, registered 2012-05-23T23:35:31 Making my post 2012-05-23T23:35:34 Erm, pm 2012-05-23T23:35:49 Wait... 2012-05-23T23:35:55 They are speaking english in the forum 2012-05-23T23:35:58 So... 2012-05-23T23:36:04 Spanish or english? 2012-05-23T23:36:19 English, I guess, you're better at it :-) 2012-05-23T23:36:25 Yeah... I agree 2012-05-23T23:36:37 As I said, we need the permission to use the translations of their patches in order to re-create them using my engine 2012-05-23T23:36:50 I'll remember to mention that 2012-05-23T23:36:51 Also 2012-05-23T23:36:58 Can I invite them to work with us? 2012-05-23T23:37:05 Sure! 2012-05-23T23:37:12 Yay! 2012-05-23T23:37:23 Also, I've just come across this... 2012-05-23T23:37:25 http://es.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Historia/Escenario_de_Boundary_Team_1 2012-05-23T23:37:27 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Imperishable Night/Historia/Escenario de Boundary Team 1 - Touhou Wiki (at es.touhouwiki.net) 2012-05-23T23:37:34 Why didn't you tell me? :-( 2012-05-23T23:37:59 It slipped my mind 2012-05-23T23:38:02 Srry 2012-05-23T23:38:11 OK... 2012-05-23T23:38:30 I think I didn't translate that one actaully 2012-05-23T23:38:36 I think I just moved the page 2012-05-23T23:38:41 I don't remember... 2012-05-23T23:38:54 Ah, couldn't have been me 2012-05-23T23:39:05 I can tell with the use of "¡¿" 2012-05-23T23:39:49 Hmm, it's not templated. But even if it were, adding timecodes would be just as much work 2012-05-23T23:42:11 Oh yeah, I have a quite interesting idea for De... 2012-05-23T23:42:18 What's up :3 2012-05-23T23:42:52 Seeing that nobody seems to edit it anyway, and we're even starting to add Spanish content now... I think I should "re-brand" it 2012-05-23T23:42:54 (grumbles about french forums's bad mail syetm) 2012-05-23T23:43:01 Re-brand? 2012-05-23T23:43:04 oooooooooh 2012-05-23T23:43:09 Sounds cool! 2012-05-23T23:43:28 Does our mission change with the re-branding? 2012-05-23T23:43:33 ! 2012-05-23T23:43:34 That is, close it down and re-open it with a new purpose... as some kind of "global Touhou Patch Central Wiki" 2012-05-23T23:43:41 At a domain like thpatch.net 2012-05-23T23:43:48 Cool cool 2012-05-23T23:43:58 I have a suggestion 2012-05-23T23:44:19 Yes? 2012-05-23T23:44:41 Kyori once told me there was a plugin that changes text (he was referring to stuff like han etc etc) 2012-05-23T23:44:58 Could we make a plugin that has the user's perferered lanaguge activted? 2012-05-23T23:45:07 We'll of course need a default... 2012-05-23T23:45:14 That will be of ur choosing 2012-05-23T23:45:19 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate << This is what we will use. 2012-05-23T23:45:20 <[Bot]TwilightSpa> Title: Extension:Translate - MediaWiki (at www.mediawiki.org) 2012-05-23T23:45:24 Kk! 2012-05-23T23:45:56 I see something like this... and wonder why Momiji insisted on this "farm concept" of having separate wikis in the first place 2012-05-23T23:46:21 Hmmm 2012-05-23T23:46:26 I could try to guess... 2012-05-23T23:47:00 This basically allows optional translations on a per-page basis, for _any_ language people want to create translations for 2012-05-23T23:47:27 I think she wanted to have the people within those languages stay knit with those groups, not because she wanted to segregate people, but from an admin stand-point, it be hard to govern, no? 2012-05-23T23:47:43 Of course, I'm not Momi, so I wouldn't know... 2012-05-23T23:47:54 Irc wise, anyway 2012-05-23T23:48:45 Maybe. But a wiki is the wrong medium to form such language groups 2012-05-23T23:49:05 I can see why 2012-05-23T23:49:06 touhou-forum.de proved that more than enough 2012-05-23T23:49:14 Hmm... 2012-05-23T23:49:19 Would there be a lot of work? 2012-05-23T23:49:31 ! 2012-05-23T23:49:34 Load times 2012-05-23T23:49:37 Is that an issue? 2012-05-23T23:49:40 We will see. 2012-05-23T23:49:43 Ah 2012-05-23T23:49:44 kk 2012-05-23T23:49:55 Anyway, I like ur idea :3 2012-05-23T23:50:07 ... 2012-05-23T23:50:08 Wow 2012-05-23T23:50:09 I'll do some performance tuning on my server in a week or so 2012-05-23T23:50:14 This mail thingy sucks 2012-05-23T23:50:16 kk 2012-05-23T23:51:38 And maybe... just maybe, we could even convince some translators from En to come over to the new site 2012-05-23T23:51:59 Maybe... but for that, some healing must be done buddy 2012-05-23T23:52:06 We gotta heal scars b4 that happens 2012-05-23T23:53:12 But don't worry. One step at a time :3 2012-05-23T23:53:19 Yeah, right. 2012-05-23T23:54:02 I just don't know yet if I'm going to do this. It will depend on how well the pre-alpha release will help touhou-forum.de as a whole 2012-05-23T23:54:32 I hope for the best! 2012-05-23T23:54:44 (and I'll still look for ppls) 2012-05-23T23:54:50 If it doesn't help a bit and doesn't bring in new people for the German translations, then I'll move it 2012-05-23T23:55:15 I'll still look either way 2012-05-23T23:55:16 Otherwise... probably not 2012-05-23T23:55:19 Win-win 2012-05-23T23:55:24 Indeed. 2012-05-23T23:55:43 I just think it may be a bit confusing for the Spanish people to support a German site 2012-05-23T23:55:51 It may be. 2012-05-23T23:57:26 On my side, I was going to make a con at Acen next year 2012-05-23T23:57:32 Erm 2012-05-23T23:57:33 No 2012-05-23T23:57:34 A panel 2012-05-23T23:57:39 yeah, that's better 2012-05-23T23:57:45 Tbh I'm terrified 2012-05-23T23:58:08 I'm also a hikkimori living in my parent's basement :V 2012-05-23T23:58:19 Such activities scare me 2012-05-23T23:58:20 But 2012-05-23T23:58:23 I will still go for it 2012-05-23T23:58:47 :-)