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2013-01-22T20:31:29  <Nmlgc> So~, the radical extremist forum is now being rebuilt at http://scarletheaven.proboards.com/index.cgi
2013-01-22T20:31:30  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Scarlet Heaven - Home (at scarletheaven.proboards.com)
2013-01-22T20:31:57  <Nazeo> Oh my!
2013-01-22T20:32:08  <Nazeo> Hopefully for the better.
2013-01-22T20:32:36  <Nmlgc> Doesn't look like it.
2013-01-22T20:32:37  <Nmlgc> http://scarletheaven.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=vorstellungen&action=display&thread=2
2013-01-22T20:32:38  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Scarlet Heaven - Der Owen stellt sich vor (at scarletheaven.proboards.com)
2013-01-22T20:32:56  * Nazeo takes a read
2013-01-22T20:33:01  <Nazeo> Noooooo!
2013-01-22T20:33:18  <Nmlgc> "Even though this now uses the same forum software as Lunatic Red, this is not supposed to be a rip-off"
2013-01-22T20:33:28  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-22T20:33:36  <Nmlgc> Somehow, I guess he means exactly the opposite.
2013-01-22T20:33:52  <Nazeo> "Great artists steal"
2013-01-22T20:34:37  <Nmlgc> And out of all forum servers, they just had to choose ProBoards. The one who won't ship UTF-8 support until May.
2013-01-22T20:35:04  <Nazeo> That leads me to thinking...
2013-01-22T20:35:29  <Nazeo> Now why would the do that? There are for sure other free software such as phpbb
2013-01-22T20:35:56  <Nmlgc> I think Kamiro still owns touhou-forum.de
2013-01-22T20:36:02  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-22T20:36:04  <Nazeo> I see.
2013-01-22T20:36:16  <Nazeo> Hmm...
2013-01-22T20:36:41  <Nmlgc> And Grife and CaptNOwen have neither the time nor the skill to administer their own forum.
2013-01-22T20:37:20  <Nazeo> By previous experience? Or you know that as a fact? :o
2013-01-22T20:37:50  <Nmlgc> They have stated this themselves time and time again.
2013-01-22T20:37:53  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-22T20:37:59  <Nazeo> That's umm...
2013-01-22T20:38:02  <Nmlgc> Of course, now that the forum is gone, I can't proof this.
2013-01-22T20:38:12  <Nazeo> Nah, I believe ya~
2013-01-22T20:38:29  <Nmlgc> I mean, even IRC was too complicated for them
2013-01-22T20:38:34  <Nazeo> ( I thing you mean "prove" btw~ )
2013-01-22T20:38:37  <Nazeo> Eh?
2013-01-22T20:38:47  <Nmlgc> Yes, prove *facepalms*
2013-01-22T20:38:52  <Nazeo> :<
2013-01-22T20:38:59  <Nazeo> I hope you saw what I did there
2013-01-22T20:39:12  <Nmlgc> >thing
2013-01-22T20:39:15  <Nazeo> ~
2013-01-22T20:39:29  <Nazeo> IRC, they had one?
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2013-01-22T20:40:25  <Nmlgc> Well, yeah. They've experienced trouble with some JavaScript forum add-on chat, so I recommended them to switch to IRC
2013-01-22T20:41:08  <Nazeo> That sounded like Chatbox.
2013-01-22T20:41:15  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-22T20:41:25  <Nmlgc> However, no one seemed to like the Mibbit client, so they went back to the bugged add-on after some months
2013-01-22T20:41:26  <Nazeo> Man, I wish they were nicer to ya :/
2013-01-22T20:41:59  <Nmlgc> It's a radical extremist forum, what do you expect?
2013-01-22T20:42:03  <Nazeo> ...
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2013-01-22T20:42:28  <Nmlgc1> It's like offering a steak to a vegetarian.
2013-01-22T20:43:44  <Nazeo> Both ignorant and sort of offensive....
2013-01-22T20:43:51  <Nazeo> .-.
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2013-01-22T20:46:59  <Nmlgc1> So, feel free to change links if you want to
2013-01-22T20:47:10  <Nmlgc1> Or not, if you like how the old domain redirects to us ^_^
2013-01-22T20:47:38  * Nazeo thinks about it...
2013-01-22T20:47:59  <Nazeo> It was sort of nice for them to do that...
2013-01-22T20:48:10  <Nmlgc1> Hmm, anything with .php in it 404s anyway
2013-01-22T20:48:53  <Nazeo> At the same time, your post was swallowed up... so it would confuse people if I just pointed at their forum...
2013-01-22T20:49:07  <Nazeo> ( Referring to the old patching posts I made )
2013-01-22T20:50:12  <Nazeo> Eh. It's your call really. I am not sure what to do with a radical extremist forum.
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2013-01-22T20:51:08  <Nmlgc> I don't care, either.
2013-01-22T20:58:31  <Nazeo> So I will change the link on Touhou Patch Central, but leave the rest as they are. My way of thinking is people will be confused to see it redirect back to the main page. If they have questions about what happened to your post, they always can find us.
2013-01-22T21:01:19  <Nmlgc> OK.
2013-01-22T21:18:24  <Nmlgc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_HCMKRsPQg << "The host is doing nothing to help us"
2013-01-22T21:18:25  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Das deutsche Touhou Forum zieht um~ - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-01-22T21:18:52  <Nmlgc> (so we moved)
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2013-01-22T22:26:12  <Nazeo> (Back)
2013-01-22T22:26:16  <Nazeo> And eh?
2013-01-22T22:26:27  <Nazeo> What was the issue?
2013-01-22T22:26:51  <Nmlgc> They blame it on the server provider.
2013-01-22T22:27:04  <Nazeo> I feel it is something more :v
2013-01-22T22:27:21  <Nazeo> More of a social problem than a technical one
2013-01-22T22:30:52  <Nmlgc> Hmm.
2013-01-22T22:36:18  <Nmlgc> So about wiki.edgeofperspective.net...
2013-01-22T22:36:30  <Nazeo> Ah yes?
2013-01-22T22:37:17  <Nmlgc> You said this is supposed to be a general handbook for the Touhou fan. Now, when taking everything on touhouwiki.net into account and thinking about what you could do...
2013-01-22T22:37:34  <Nmlgc> Does this mean it'll have download links? :-D
2013-01-22T22:37:46  <Nazeo> Perhaps~
2013-01-22T22:37:59  <Nazeo> It would be rather lacking without them eh?
2013-01-22T22:38:02  <Nmlgc> Remember that He Who Posts Download Links automatically gets the attention from Google.
2013-01-22T22:38:09  * Nazeo nods
2013-01-22T22:38:57  <Nazeo> At the same time, we may receive unwanted attention, but we will deal with that as we go along
2013-01-22T22:39:07  <Nazeo> This is meant to be very lazzie-faire~
2013-01-22T22:39:20  <Nmlgc> *laissez-faire
2013-01-22T22:39:28  <Nazeo> Erm, yes, that
2013-01-22T22:39:53  <Nmlgc> So basically something similar to http://moriyashrine.weebly.com/
2013-01-22T22:39:54  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Moriya Shrine - Home (at moriyashrine.weebly.com)
2013-01-22T22:40:23  <Nazeo> In function, yes.
2013-01-22T22:40:52  <Nazeo> Ours allows for people to add on
2013-01-22T22:41:03  <Nazeo> Since... uh, I didn't know that exist
2013-01-22T22:41:04  <Nazeo> :P
2013-01-22T22:41:15  <Nazeo> *existed
2013-01-22T22:41:25  <Nazeo> Gah... I am getting worse at words.
2013-01-22T22:41:42  <Nmlgc> I really like that site. My only criticism would be that they only seem to offer pre-patched downloads (which, as we all know, are about to become obsolete)
2013-01-22T22:42:24  <Nazeo> Mm~ I'll remember to add that page. I wonder what it would be classified as...
2013-01-22T22:42:40  <Nazeo> I'll explain the mechanics.
2013-01-22T22:42:43  <Nmlgc> "Portal"?
2013-01-22T22:42:49  <Nazeo> That works!
2013-01-22T22:43:16  <Nmlgc> And maybe that THEIR CREATOR'S YOUTUBE PAGE LINKS WIKIA GAAAH
2013-01-22T22:43:29  <Nazeo> :o
2013-01-22T22:43:31  <Nmlgc> It's been 2 years now!
2013-01-22T22:43:34  <Nazeo> Noooooooooooo!!!!!!
2013-01-22T22:43:41  <Nazeo> I should do something!
2013-01-22T22:43:46  <Nmlgc> http://www.youtube.com/user/MoriyaShrineVideos
2013-01-22T22:43:47  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Moriya Shrine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
2013-01-22T22:45:16  <Nmlgc> And while we're at it: http://scarletheaven.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=vorstellungen&action=display&thread=11
2013-01-22T22:45:17  <[Bot]MagicStone> Title: Scarlet Heaven - die deutschsprachige Touhou-Community - Neuer Name, gleiche Lethargie (at scarletheaven.proboards.com)
2013-01-22T22:45:31  <Nmlgc> >"I'm closely cooperating with Touhou Wikia"
2013-01-22T22:45:36  <Nazeo> ............
2013-01-22T22:45:43  * Nazeo facepalms
2013-01-22T22:46:18  * Nazeo has no words really...
2013-01-22T23:16:09  <Nmlgc> Strangely, I still feel the urge to help these people.
2013-01-22T23:16:32  <Nazeo> I think you should.
2013-01-22T23:16:51  <Nmlgc> Seeing that translatewiki.net is a bit too strict for most people, maybe they could have their fan game project localized at thpatch.net
2013-01-22T23:17:18  <Nazeo> Mm, you should point that forward to them.
2013-01-22T23:17:31  <Nazeo> After all, you were once with them, and they did show some goodwill by redirecting to thpatch...
2013-01-22T23:17:36  <Nazeo> But, do as you will.
2013-01-22T23:17:37  <Nmlgc> Well, it's still in the Dream Stage.
2013-01-22T23:18:12  <Nazeo> Oh...
2013-01-22T23:18:15  <Nazeo> :/
2013-01-22T23:18:57  <Nmlgc> I _think_ they said that they're going to write it in Java
2013-01-22T23:20:05  <Nazeo> Java...
2013-01-22T23:20:14  <Nmlgc> Well, as long as there is JSON support, there's nothing against us helping them :-P
2013-01-22T23:20:22  <Nazeo> I suppose.
2013-01-22T23:20:41  * Nmlgc forwards this message
2013-01-22T23:20:46  <Nazeo> :D
2013-01-22T23:20:51  <Nazeo> Yaay~
2013-01-22T23:27:20  <Nmlgc> My current argument against "your own fan game" is a bit flawed, anyway.
2013-01-22T23:27:58  <Nazeo> Really? That's odd coming from you.
2013-01-22T23:28:02  <Nmlgc> Because if a fan game would like to be translated by us, it _has_ to come with a proper localization engine out of the box.
2013-01-22T23:28:18  <Nazeo> Oh...
2013-01-22T23:28:21  <Nazeo> Catch-22.
2013-01-22T23:29:02  <Nmlgc> So, they would have to develop that themselves, but they can still point it to the JSON files which the thpatch.net server extension creates
2013-01-22T23:29:21  <Nazeo> I have a rather stupid question...
2013-01-22T23:29:35  <Nmlgc> We could even do stable snapshots, if they wanted to.
2013-01-22T23:29:43  <Nazeo> Who is capable of programming over there? And what languages?
2013-01-22T23:30:03  <Nazeo> There is a lot to consider... sfx, gfx etc etc
2013-01-22T23:31:30  <Nmlgc> I think they had the classic situation of One Rather Skilled Programmer, accompanied by a horde of noobs
2013-01-22T23:31:33  <Nmlgc> *they have
2013-01-22T23:31:58  <Nazeo> Hmm...
2013-01-22T23:32:05  * Nazeo looks at Nmlgc
2013-01-22T23:32:09  <Nmlgc> All that's left in the new thread is a very detailed story. Which, of course, is tl;dr material
2013-01-22T23:32:13  <Nazeo> I would not know what you mean.
2013-01-22T23:32:14  <Nazeo> :v
2013-01-22T23:32:53  <Nmlgc> I mean, I had my fair share of Dream Stage projects, too.
2013-01-22T23:33:20  <Nmlgc> But with my stuff, there at least always were some lines of code and some pages of concept artwork
2013-01-22T23:33:37  <Nazeo> To solidify the concept?
2013-01-22T23:33:40  <Nmlgc> Yes.
2013-01-22T23:33:46  <Nazeo> Mm.
2013-01-22T23:33:57  <Nmlgc> To seem less like the dreamers we all were.
2013-01-22T23:36:43  <Nazeo> :<
2013-01-22T23:36:48  <Nazeo> That sounded so sad...
2013-01-22T23:39:10  <Nmlgc> You just can't do an MMORPG at the age of 12.
2013-01-22T23:40:01  <Nazeo> ...
2013-01-22T23:40:10  <Nazeo> :<
2013-01-22T23:40:11  <Nmlgc> And that wasn't even my idea. I just told the guy it wasn't possible, and he just said "OK, let's scratch the MMO part"
2013-01-22T23:40:20  <Nazeo> Ah...